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 MR14 Grow Log / Redspore
#15547354 - 12/20/11 06:57 PM (5 months, 6 days ago) |
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Hey all,
Starting a new grow log thread.
Here is a link to my GT Grow
MR14 Grow Log / GT BRF PF Tek (Pics Inside)
Inoculated these jars on December 18th (3 days ago) using a spore syringe, Strain is redspore.
Already showing signs of growth. As I've already tried growing fruits from cakes, I plan on spawning these to bulk substrate and taking it from there; Possibly even buying a greenhouse and some extra equipment to give them an optimum environment.
Will update when things start to take off, Thanks.
All feedback is welcome
MR14
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15547427 - 12/20/11 07:11 PM (5 months, 6 days ago) |
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Subscribed!
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
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[quote]starfire_xes said:
Don't worry about being ugly. Beauty is only skin deep.
Ugly goes all the way to the bone....
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: BargainBab]
#15576771 - 12/27/11 02:53 AM (5 months, 9 hours ago) |
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About 40-50% colonized atm, Looking healthy. I made sure to pack my substrate light and fluffy this time around and it looks like it's helping.
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15580320 - 12/27/11 07:51 PM (4 months, 30 days ago) |
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Are there any cheaper methods to a greenhouse grow other than the ones listed here?
I'll need to buy a Coolmist + a bunch of other equipment, pipes and things and it would wind up too expensive.
Any recommendations would be appreciated, thanks
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15581396 - 12/28/11 12:57 AM (4 months, 30 days ago) |
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15583642 - 12/28/11 02:49 PM (4 months, 29 days ago) |
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Can I have someone with experience chime in?
I'm prepared to buy all the equipment needed, just need some final direction
I don't want to dig too deep into my pocket but I am prepared too
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588035 - 12/29/11 03:34 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Jars are about 85-90% colonized 
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My Elementary Coir Tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595/fpart/1/vc/1
Can this tek be followed and transfered to trays, then using the final soil to cover all the trays and cover with glad?
Still not sure the route I'll be taking, any feedback would be appreciated at this point.
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588184 - 12/29/11 03:59 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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This tek is often quoted and recommended. Sure you can just transform it to trays, this tek is about the manufacturing of a bulk substrate, the form doesn't really matter.
You mean you want to case it with the rest of the coir or what is your question?
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You answered my question for me.
Do I use all my jars with 'My Elementary Coir Tek'?
What I will be doing is making the bulk substrate in the monotub, then after the mixing step, transfer it to aluminium trays with a layer of glad wrap on the bottom and use the left over coir to cover as per the tek's instructions; Sound ok?
Also my question earlier was once I have them in trays what's the best way of going about fruiting them? I'm prepared to buy a green house if need be to house the trays, Are there any cheaper options of buying a humidifier other than the expensive ones listed here http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=humidifier&_sacat=20710&_sop=15&_odkw=cool+mist&_osacat=20710&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313 ?
And I understand I'll need a 6500k bulb for the top of the greenhouse aswell
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588231 - 12/29/11 04:09 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
MR14 said:
Jars are about 85-90% colonized
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My Elementary Coir Tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595/fpart/1/vc/1
Can this tek be followed and transfered to trays,
Ty
Yeah it says yeah you just have to making sure it's in the right fruiting conditions.
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Yeah it says yeah you just have to making sure it's in the right fruiting conditions.
This is what I'm trying to sort out in the next few days!
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588286 - 12/29/11 04:23 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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This is what I'm trying to sort out in the next few days!
Right on bro, I'm definitely following this!
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Quote:
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This is what I'm trying to sort out in the next few days!
Right on bro, I'm definitely following this!
Thanks for the support 
I'll be AFK for the next few hours, if anyone can help me with direction and what equipment I'll be needing it would be a great help!
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588335 - 12/29/11 04:31 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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MR14 said:
You answered my question for me.
Do I use all my jars with 'My Elementary Coir Tek'?
What I will be doing is making the bulk substrate in the monotub, then after the mixing step, transfer it to aluminium trays with a layer of glad wrap on the bottom and use the left over coir to cover as per the tek's instructions; Sound ok?
It's not recommended to take aluminium trays because the metabolites are acidic and will eat through it possibly. What's glad wrap?
It's quite important to keep the colonizing bulk relatively air tight. That way you keep it high in CO2, which tells the mycelium: "You are still under ground, you still need to grow." When you take away the seal and aerate it like in a shotgun FC or in a mono when opening holes you tell the mycelium: "It's alright, you're on the surface now, you can fruit!"
A Spawn/bulk ratio between 1:1 to 1:5 is recommended. Search that.
Don't use the dry verm layer, wash that off thoroughly, or you are inviting contams into your tub.
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Also my question earlier was once I have them in trays what's the best way of going about fruiting them? I'm prepared to buy a green house if need be to house the trays, Are there any cheaper options of buying a humidifier other than the expensive ones listed here http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=humidifier&_sacat=20710&_sop=15&_odkw=cool+mist&_osacat=20710&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313 ?
And I understand I'll need a 6500k bulb for the top of the greenhouse aswell
Ty
Dude, have you never heard of the shotgun terrarium or seen any photos? I've seen lots of pics with trays in SGFCs. I just think I like monos more at the moment. I didn't have huge success either way but that's because I used some low spawn ratios and little substrate depth. You want to use 3-4" substrate depth and by any means let it consolidate at least a week (RR recommends up to one month ^^) before fruiting to make sure the myc can digest some of the substrate and make nutrients available for the fruiting process.
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Don't worry about being ugly. Beauty is only skin deep.
Ugly goes all the way to the bone....
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glad is a canadian company I believe, it's siranwrap, cellophane.
It's like he said kleenex instead of facial tissue here LOL
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588417 - 12/29/11 04:46 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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MR14, You could just follow the Damion tek, substituting your pf cakes for grain spawn. You will be better off grating the cakes with a sterilized grater, rather than breaking them up in a bag as recommended. Monotub FTW!!!
However, if you are set on using a greenhouse, you can do it facey style and save yourself a lot of work and expense. Really streamlines things.
You can make the greenhouse out of a shelving unit, 4mil plastic drop, some duct tape, and a zipper or magnet tape (magnet tape is sweet) to customize cheaply.
Spawning pf cakes to bulk trays is a tried and true practice, they will work cased in a tray with no bulk substrate as well.
I hope at least some of that is helpful. Everything you've done so far looks  . Keep up the good work, MR14. Peace.
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: GungGung]
#15588475 - 12/29/11 04:56 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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glad is a canadian company I believe, it's siranwrap, cellophane.
It's like he said kleenex instead of facial tissue here LOL
Lol!
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MR14, You could just follow the Damion tek, substituting your pf cakes for grain spawn. You will be better off grating the cakes with a sterilized grater, rather than breaking them up in a bag as recommended. Monotub FTW!!!
However, if you are set on using a greenhouse, you can do it facey style and save yourself a lot of work and expense. Really streamlines things.
You can make the greenhouse out of a shelving unit, 4mil plastic drop, some duct tape, and a zipper or magnet tape (magnet tape is sweet) to customize cheaply.
Spawning pf cakes to bulk trays is a tried and true practice, they will work cased in a tray with no bulk substrate as well.
I hope at least some of that is helpful. Everything you've done so far looks . Keep up the good work, MR14. Peace.
Thanks!
I may try a monotub this time around, just 4 square holes and use polyfill to fill ?
Will I need an aquarium heater so get the tub at the right temps?
I can try the greenhouse method though i'll need to buy a coolmist unit
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Dude, have you never heard of the shotgun terrarium or seen any photos? I've seen lots of pics with trays in SGFCs.
I've tried birthing cakes my last grow and it was a big success.
If I were to use trays I'd probably need a greenhouse to house them all.
So something like this would be ideal?
a 6500K Bulb on a 12/12hr timer up the top, and a coolmist humidifier unit at the bottom ??
If I go the greenhouse method I'll need the humidifier, correct?
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588545 - 12/29/11 05:05 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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I can try the greenhouse method though i'll need to buy a coolmist unit
I bought a coolmist, now I'm going to buy and ultrasonic, coolmist for FAE and ultra for RH
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Ah ok...
It's important that you drill two holes DIRECTLY above the substrate surface and the other two further up to induce circulation.
Carbon Dioxide has a higher density than oxygen and thus will be on substrate level. Many people also recommend fanning tubs 2-3 times a day to get rid of excess CO2.
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[quote]starfire_xes said:
Don't worry about being ugly. Beauty is only skin deep.
Ugly goes all the way to the bone....
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588644 - 12/29/11 05:23 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Dude, have you never heard of the shotgun terrarium or seen any photos? I've seen lots of pics with trays in SGFCs.
I've tried birthing cakes my last grow and it was a big success.
If I were to use trays I'd probably need a greenhouse to house them all.
So something like this would be ideal?
a 6500K Bulb on a 12/12hr timer up the top, and a coolmist humidifier unit at the bottom ??
If I go the greenhouse method I'll need the humidifier, correct?
I don't know man... If you only have those eleven PF style half pint jars, you should calculate first:
So you have 11x125ml (circa). That makes roughly 1.3 litres of pure spawn. Now imagine you can spawn that like 1:1 so you would get like two and a half litres of bulk, or you can stretch it up to 1:5 or even further, and get up to 8 litres or more, but the substrate quality does not get better that way. The thinner you make it, the less nutrients are in it.
Now calculate how much would fit into one tray and then you find out how many trays and how much room you need.
By the way I DO NOT WANT TO PERSUADE YOU to try monos. But just look at that one: FIRST GROW?!?
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[quote]starfire_xes said:
Don't worry about being ugly. Beauty is only skin deep.
Ugly goes all the way to the bone....
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Yes you need a coolmist impeller humidifier for the greenhouse. Whether you put the whole unit in there, or pipe it in, is up to you. Ultrasonic is optional.
Monotubs are set and forget. They are supposed to be anyways. That means no fanning, no misting, no touchy. Period. If the chamber has been constructed correctly and the substrate is at the appropriate moisture levels, monotubs do all the work.
Thats not to say that specific circumstances don't call for specific responses. I have misted and fanned tubs before when i thought they nmeeded it. But rarely, it's only if i did something wrong, like made the sub too dry, or applied casing too early.
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: GungGung]
#15617138 - 01/04/12 06:57 PM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Monotubs are set and forget. They are supposed to be anyways. That means no fanning, no misting, no touchy. Period. If the chamber has been constructed correctly and the substrate is at the appropriate moisture levels, monotubs do all the work.
Most of my jars are fully colonized now, Just waiting for a couple to catch up. I will post photos a little later.
In regard to monotubs, can you let me know what equipment I'll need to measure the moisture levels.
I'll have 11 jars fully colonized, do you recommend I make 2 monotubs or grate them all into one?
Also for constructing the monotub, I'll need polyfill to fill in the holes I create? And to drill 4 medium size holes?
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15617583 - 01/04/12 08:35 PM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Also for constructing the monotub, I'll need polyfill to fill in the holes I create?
can use microporous medical tape
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Ok cool.
I'll use Damien's Coir tek and make a substrate in a gallon container.
Do you recommend I buy twice the materials and create 2 monotubs?
Also, is there any preliminary factors I need to take in e.g Need I buy a temp probe or an aquarium heater to get my monotub at a certain temperature.
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15620863 - 01/05/12 02:45 PM (4 months, 21 days ago) |
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bump, Will update with photos in 10hrs
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
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Ok cool.
I'll use Damien's Coir tek and make a substrate in a gallon container.
Do you recommend I buy twice the materials and create 2 monotubs?
Also, is there any preliminary factors I need to take in e.g Need I buy a temp probe or an aquarium heater to get my monotub at a certain temperature.
I'd stick to the tek after having seen this: damian coir tek by oxana
Otherwise it is a question of simple math: Measure your tubs length and width, and then multiply length, width and recommended substrate depth (transformed to decimeters). This will give you the litres volume that you have to fill with a sub/spawn mixture. Now imagine you'd do two tubs you only had half of the spawn, so if it will dramatically exceed a ratio of 1:5 I'd not recommend it.
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Don't worry about being ugly. Beauty is only skin deep.
Ugly goes all the way to the bone....
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Here they are!
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15623778 - 01/06/12 03:29 AM (4 months, 21 days ago) |
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Ok I'll stick to
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My Elementary Coir Tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595#11916595
So far I'll need to buy a temp probe to measure the temps of the sub before I put in my myc.
Otherwise I have the rest of the mats ready!
So excited 
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15623781 - 01/06/12 03:33 AM (4 months, 21 days ago) |
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Also, How many litres is that monotub? I may purchase another one of the exact size to save me from drilling into my own one I had planned on using.
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15623819 - 01/06/12 04:02 AM (4 months, 21 days ago) |
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Also about 5 jars are full colonized and the rest are 95%. By the time I leave the uncolonised jars for a week after full colonization I have a strong feeling the jars that are colonized now may start to pin inside the jar.
Advice? Thanks
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15626401 - 01/06/12 04:19 PM (4 months, 20 days ago) |
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Also, How many litres is that monotub? I may purchase another one of the exact size to save me from drilling into my own one I had planned on using.
Thanks
What the heck man how am I supposed to know? Just calculate it. This is not rocket science, it's simple math.
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[quote]starfire_xes said:
Don't worry about being ugly. Beauty is only skin deep.
Ugly goes all the way to the bone....
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A quick shroomery search recommends 5-10CM of substrate/coir.
Can I get an answer with what to do with my jars that haven't colonized as yet. I checked them now they have 1-2days left before full colonization.
Is there any harm in birthing the late colonized cakes (which will have about 2-3days after full colonization to consolidate) with the earlier cakes?
It shouldn't make a difference once it's all mixed up in the monotub, correct?
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15633030 - 01/07/12 11:37 PM (4 months, 19 days ago) |
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Hi can I get a response in regard with what to do with the different colonization times?
Also, I use a kitchen cheese grater to grate my cakes onto the substrate correct?
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15633306 - 01/08/12 01:02 AM (4 months, 19 days ago) |
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awesome, a redspore grow
sorry, back on topic
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: mindphuck]
#15633605 - 01/08/12 04:25 AM (4 months, 19 days ago) |
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Ok guys I've had a talk to a couple of people and established my method.
I will update with pics and my method shortly, Just waiting for my uncolonised cakes to catch up and then I'll be birthing them in a monotub.
Thanks shroomery
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15640749 - 01/09/12 02:42 PM (4 months, 17 days ago) |
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Still posted 
Also, in case you haven't found an answer, you can just keep the colonized cakes in the jars until you're ready for them, it won't hurt them any. That's useful if you'd rather them grow somewhat together rather than birthing each cake as it's ready and some being on different stages/flushes.
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: BargainBab]
#15641762 - 01/09/12 05:55 PM (4 months, 17 days ago) |
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Hey mate thanks for reply..
I'm waiting on 1 cake to finish colonizing, and then I will leave them for a week.
Approx 8 days from now I will birth them into the mono, I will be updating with pics. I'm very excited, I expect the pictures I upload will help new growing enthusiasts and thinkers alike.
Stay tuned!@@
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15643588 - 01/10/12 01:18 AM (4 months, 17 days ago) |
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RR said you normally don't let cakes consolidate if you use them as spawn, only before you fruit them.
The myc has to switch between colonisation (where it takes the substrate) and consolidation (where it digests the substrate). If you consolidate before spawning, it might not be bad but it will cost you some idle time.
You let the bulk sub consolidate after full colonisation.
And dude, read more and use the search function...
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george castanza said:
I guess the real question is when is the cake fully colonized? Years ago, I spawned many brf cakes to bulk many times, sometimes when I didn't wait long enough, the center of the jar was not colonized. That is all that I am saying, make sure your substrate is fully colonized. No way to tell without opening your jar and crumbling your cake. I would rather let my cake go a few more days than to birth it too soon, but that is just me. I am speaking from experience on this one, not just regurgitating what I have read.
The information on the site supports my method. I'm waiting for the all the jars to colonize so I can birth them at the same time.
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sof4r0ckeRs1984 said:
If you consolidate before spawning, it might not be bad but it will cost you some idle time.
You let the bulk sub consolidate after full colonisation.
I'll be birthing my cakes to substrate (Damiens Coir) with a 1/4inch layer of verm ontop and covering for 10 days.
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Edited by MR14 (01/10/12 04:07 AM)
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15643844 - 01/10/12 04:13 AM (4 months, 17 days ago) |
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Also I won't be crumbling my cakes, just birthing them as they are and covering with coir and a top layer of verm
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15672224 - 01/16/12 01:44 AM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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Ok so it's been a while since an update. My last jar colonized in full about 2 days ago and has started to pin in the jar. I've covered it and set it aside till I get organised. I'll be preparing my coir and monotub tomorrow so I will def take photos and post them along the way.
Stay tuned
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15680072 - 01/17/12 06:50 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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As promised, here's some pics to go off.
Note: The drill is ancient, but it gets the job done
Here's my mono. Drill bits cost $5
Lined the base of my monotub with a bag and covered the holes with duct tape.
Layed a base layer of 5mm coir and placed my cakes ontop. I needed to place my cakes closer together in the center so they would be covered by coir during my next step.
Cakes are covered (approx 10mm)
Finished up with a 5mm layer of verm ontop.
And then covered with a bag. I'm going to be leaving it for 10 days.
Thanks Shroomery. 
Edited by MR14 (01/17/12 10:58 PM)
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15680455 - 01/17/12 08:00 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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What kind of drill bit is that? I've been looking and can only find similar ones that cost ~$40
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: Forager]
#15681443 - 01/17/12 10:46 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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I can't find the packaging so I don't have the exact name for you but they came in a set of 4. The guy at the store tried to sell me a kit for $16 but luckily I spotted the ones they had in the corner for $4.50. They also had singular ones for metal at $25+. Have a look around it was the cheapest (53mm)
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15713548 - 01/24/12 07:34 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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Ok so I'm approaching 10 days now. I've been thinking about the grow & how I'll have trouble checking to see if my tub is fully colonized because of the top verm layer I put ontop. Should I just flip the entire substrate and introduce fruiting conditions after the 10 days? I.e treat it like a BRF cake?
Any help is appreciated, thanks
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15724009 - 01/27/12 06:27 AM (4 months, 6 hours ago) |
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I put gloves on and sanitized, I've broken up the mycelium and mixed everything up. I'm going to leave it for another 10days and hope my mono is ready to fruit by then. Thanks Shroomery
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15732384 - 01/29/12 02:57 AM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Just had a glance at the tub I mixed up and it's colonizing now I can physically see it. Can't wait until fruiting stage, Will likely be ready in a little over a weeks time. Will update with photos when available. Thanks
P.S Feel free to ask any questions along the way, will reply asap
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15801055 - 02/12/12 11:00 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Okay I checked my tub yesterday as I had plans on fruiting and noticed contams. I reacted quickly and decided to cut out the contams while feeding them into a vacuum cleaner and sucked them right out; sprayed the crater with isopropyl and filled with verm just to be safe.
Here is some photos of the contams I spotted and removed:
And an update of today's progress:
I've removed the tape now and filled with Polyfill (Hobyfill at Spotlight for those in AUS) and have a light fixture set up so they grow in an upward direction.
Feel free to add any comments, I consulted with a friend who recommended me remove the contams quickly with the vacuum method rather than throw my entire tub out. I hope my grow will do a complete 360 and deliver results.
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15801257 - 02/12/12 11:55 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Thoughts ???!
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15801553 - 02/13/12 01:59 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Those with experience can you offer some input at this point?
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15801590 - 02/13/12 02:16 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Hey man İ think : you are doing very good so far ... You dont need a input. İts all seeming clear and nice ... Good good
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: Hate]
#15801877 - 02/13/12 06:13 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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You should have broken up the cakes before spawning them to the bulk sub. Also, what is that that you put over the cakes? It looks really dry, or like vermiculate or something? I assumed it was more coir, but it doesn't look the same.
Don't know what to tell you about the contams... I couldn't see um in the pics. Just be more careful next time. 
I'm putting my mini BRF mono into fruiting on friday. She looks good so far. Can't wait to see your mature fruits.
Edit: I see what you did with the verm, I just wasn't paying attention. For future reference, it's not completely necessary to have a top layer. And a top layer of pure vermiculate will confuse you because it has virtually no nutrients, and thus, will take forever to colonize. If you do a search on the top layer, a lot of users will say don't even bother.
Here's a very recent thread on just that: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15800732/page/1
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: trophycase]
#15803588 - 02/13/12 02:29 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Okay well should I pick the verm off the top layer ??
I was advised against breaking up the cakes before spawning as I could be introducing contaminants. I have polyfill in the holes with a light fixture above my monotub, Should my fruits grow now?
I need all the help I can get at the moment. I did notice however my substrate after I cut out the contams wasn't colonized (even after 2 weeks).
Never the less, hopefully my fruits do grow. I'll know for next time what to do or not do, but I'd still like to see this grow succeed. Thanks
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15803947 - 02/13/12 03:43 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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The slow colonization is most likely a result of having the whole cakes in there without crumbling, unless the moisture or something in your substrate is slightly off. Your fruits should grow no problem. They have already started forming, so if you keep the conditions right, they should be edible.
I wouldn't scoop the layer off now that everything's underway. You're as fine as you're going to be as is I think. Any more tampering is probably just going to hurt you. Let it do its thing!
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: trophycase]
#15804208 - 02/13/12 04:29 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Ok trophycase thanks for the input
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15805492 - 02/13/12 07:57 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Oh, and I forgot to say that contams are not too much of a problem when crumbling if you're careful and you pasturize your coir properly. I have a BRF to coir monotub that I did that way. Here is a picture of it on day 8 of colonization with a 1:2 spawn ratio: 
I'm gonna post again when I fruit it, but you get the idea. I have to say though, this is the first time I've done a BRF monotub, so don't consider me an expert. It's just what I thought would be the best option based on my reading, and it has worked great so far. Just birth the jars directly into a ziplock to break them up. Then they're just like grain spawn.
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: trophycase]
#15817240 - 02/16/12 04:08 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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