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MR14

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MR14 Grow Log / Redspore
#15547354 - 12/20/11 06:57 PM (5 months, 6 days ago) |
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Hey all,
Starting a new grow log thread. Here is a link to my GT Grow MR14 Grow Log / GT BRF PF Tek (Pics Inside)
Inoculated these jars on December 18th (3 days ago) using a spore syringe, Strain is redspore.

Already showing signs of growth. As I've already tried growing fruits from cakes, I plan on spawning these to bulk substrate and taking it from there; Possibly even buying a greenhouse and some extra equipment to give them an optimum environment.
Will update when things start to take off, Thanks. All feedback is welcome

MR14
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15547427 - 12/20/11 07:11 PM (5 months, 6 days ago) |
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15547439 - 12/20/11 07:14 PM (5 months, 6 days ago) |
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-------------------- The Horrors... Really bad example of dosage, set and setting.
[quote]starfire_xes said:
Don't worry about being ugly. Beauty is only skin deep.
Ugly goes all the way to the bone....
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: BargainBab]
#15576771 - 12/27/11 02:53 AM (5 months, 9 hours ago) |
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About 40-50% colonized atm, Looking healthy. I made sure to pack my substrate light and fluffy this time around and it looks like it's helping.
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15580320 - 12/27/11 07:51 PM (4 months, 30 days ago) |
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Are there any cheaper methods to a greenhouse grow other than the ones listed here?
I'll need to buy a Coolmist + a bunch of other equipment, pipes and things and it would wind up too expensive.
Any recommendations would be appreciated, thanks
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15581396 - 12/28/11 12:57 AM (4 months, 30 days ago) |
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15583642 - 12/28/11 02:49 PM (4 months, 29 days ago) |
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Can I have someone with experience chime in?
I'm prepared to buy all the equipment needed, just need some final direction
I don't want to dig too deep into my pocket but I am prepared too
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588035 - 12/29/11 03:34 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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Jars are about 85-90% colonized 
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My Elementary Coir Tek http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595/fpart/1/vc/1
Can this tek be followed and transfered to trays, then using the final soil to cover all the trays and cover with glad?
Still not sure the route I'll be taking, any feedback would be appreciated at this point.
Ty
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588184 - 12/29/11 03:59 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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This tek is often quoted and recommended. Sure you can just transform it to trays, this tek is about the manufacturing of a bulk substrate, the form doesn't really matter. You mean you want to case it with the rest of the coir or what is your question?
-------------------- The Horrors... Really bad example of dosage, set and setting.
[quote]starfire_xes said:
Don't worry about being ugly. Beauty is only skin deep.
Ugly goes all the way to the bone....
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You answered my question for me.
Do I use all my jars with 'My Elementary Coir Tek'? What I will be doing is making the bulk substrate in the monotub, then after the mixing step, transfer it to aluminium trays with a layer of glad wrap on the bottom and use the left over coir to cover as per the tek's instructions; Sound ok?
Also my question earlier was once I have them in trays what's the best way of going about fruiting them? I'm prepared to buy a green house if need be to house the trays, Are there any cheaper options of buying a humidifier other than the expensive ones listed here http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=humidifier&_sacat=20710&_sop=15&_odkw=cool+mist&_osacat=20710&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313 ?
And I understand I'll need a 6500k bulb for the top of the greenhouse aswell
Ty
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588231 - 12/29/11 04:09 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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MR14 said:

Jars are about 85-90% colonized 
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My Elementary Coir Tek http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595/fpart/1/vc/1
Can this tek be followed and transfered to trays,
Ty
Yeah it says yeah you just have to making sure it's in the right fruiting conditions.
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Yeah it says yeah you just have to making sure it's in the right fruiting conditions.
This is what I'm trying to sort out in the next few days!
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588286 - 12/29/11 04:23 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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This is what I'm trying to sort out in the next few days!
Right on bro, I'm definitely following this!
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Quote:
PsillyPsychonaut said:
This is what I'm trying to sort out in the next few days!
Right on bro, I'm definitely following this!
Thanks for the support 
I'll be AFK for the next few hours, if anyone can help me with direction and what equipment I'll be needing it would be a great help!
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588335 - 12/29/11 04:31 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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MR14 said: You answered my question for me.
Do I use all my jars with 'My Elementary Coir Tek'? What I will be doing is making the bulk substrate in the monotub, then after the mixing step, transfer it to aluminium trays with a layer of glad wrap on the bottom and use the left over coir to cover as per the tek's instructions; Sound ok?
It's not recommended to take aluminium trays because the metabolites are acidic and will eat through it possibly. What's glad wrap?
It's quite important to keep the colonizing bulk relatively air tight. That way you keep it high in CO2, which tells the mycelium: "You are still under ground, you still need to grow." When you take away the seal and aerate it like in a shotgun FC or in a mono when opening holes you tell the mycelium: "It's alright, you're on the surface now, you can fruit!"
A Spawn/bulk ratio between 1:1 to 1:5 is recommended. Search that. Don't use the dry verm layer, wash that off thoroughly, or you are inviting contams into your tub.
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MR14 said: Also my question earlier was once I have them in trays what's the best way of going about fruiting them? I'm prepared to buy a green house if need be to house the trays, Are there any cheaper options of buying a humidifier other than the expensive ones listed here http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw=humidifier&_sacat=20710&_sop=15&_odkw=cool+mist&_osacat=20710&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313 ?
And I understand I'll need a 6500k bulb for the top of the greenhouse aswell
Ty
Dude, have you never heard of the shotgun terrarium or seen any photos? I've seen lots of pics with trays in SGFCs. I just think I like monos more at the moment. I didn't have huge success either way but that's because I used some low spawn ratios and little substrate depth. You want to use 3-4" substrate depth and by any means let it consolidate at least a week (RR recommends up to one month ^^) before fruiting to make sure the myc can digest some of the substrate and make nutrients available for the fruiting process.
-------------------- The Horrors... Really bad example of dosage, set and setting.
[quote]starfire_xes said:
Don't worry about being ugly. Beauty is only skin deep.
Ugly goes all the way to the bone....
[/quote]
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glad is a canadian company I believe, it's siranwrap, cellophane. It's like he said kleenex instead of facial tissue here LOL
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: MR14]
#15588417 - 12/29/11 04:46 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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MR14, You could just follow the Damion tek, substituting your pf cakes for grain spawn. You will be better off grating the cakes with a sterilized grater, rather than breaking them up in a bag as recommended. Monotub FTW!!!
However, if you are set on using a greenhouse, you can do it facey style and save yourself a lot of work and expense. Really streamlines things.
You can make the greenhouse out of a shelving unit, 4mil plastic drop, some duct tape, and a zipper or magnet tape (magnet tape is sweet) to customize cheaply.
Spawning pf cakes to bulk trays is a tried and true practice, they will work cased in a tray with no bulk substrate as well.
I hope at least some of that is helpful. Everything you've done so far looks . Keep up the good work, MR14. Peace.
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Re: MR14 Grow Log / Redspore [Re: GungGung]
#15588475 - 12/29/11 04:56 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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PsillyPsychonaut said: glad is a canadian company I believe, it's siranwrap, cellophane. It's like he said kleenex instead of facial tissue here LOL
Lol! 
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GungGung said: MR14, You could just follow the Damion tek, substituting your pf cakes for grain spawn. You will be better off grating the cakes with a sterilized grater, rather than breaking them up in a bag as recommended. Monotub FTW!!!
However, if you are set on using a greenhouse, you can do it facey style and save yourself a lot of work and expense. Really streamlines things.
You can make the greenhouse out of a shelving unit, 4mil plastic drop, some duct tape, and a zipper or magnet tape (magnet tape is sweet) to customize cheaply.
Spawning pf cakes to bulk trays is a tried and true practice, they will work cased in a tray with no bulk substrate as well.
I hope at least some of that is helpful. Everything you've done so far looks . Keep up the good work, MR14. Peace.
Thanks!
I may try a monotub this time around, just 4 square holes and use polyfill to fill ? Will I need an aquarium heater so get the tub at the right temps?
I can try the greenhouse method though i'll need to buy a coolmist unit
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Dude, have you never heard of the shotgun terrarium or seen any photos? I've seen lots of pics with trays in SGFCs.
I've tried birthing cakes my last grow and it was a big success.
If I were to use trays I'd probably need a greenhouse to house them all.


So something like this would be ideal?
a 6500K Bulb on a 12/12hr timer up the top, and a coolmist humidifier unit at the bottom ??
If I go the greenhouse method I'll need the humidifier, correct?
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