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4-aco-dmt Qualities
    #15525651 - 12/16/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

This info is coming from my experience on 13 mgs of  4-aco-freebase
2000mg of 4-AcO-DMT fumarate is equivalent to 1057mg of 4-AcO-DMT freebase.
that means I took the equivalent of 24.59 mgs of 4-aco fumarate (the most popular form being distributed)
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Pros
1. 5 hour duration that is perfect length
2. Very very little mindfuck
3. Increased compassion/love
4. Made me rethink how I speak and act around people (becoming a better person)
5. I laughed for with hysterical joy for minutes on end
6. Songs like Hard to Concentrate, Haii-Meiko, Hotel California, Wet Sand induced even more uncontrollable laughter
7. Long peak (atleast it "seemed" like a long peak
8. Made me realize I wasn't ready for an ayahausca out of body experience
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Cons
1. Bumpy come up
2. Very slight headache the day after (went away after an hour)
3. Slight nausea during the comeup
4. Not very intense visuals
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Neutral
1. Made me think about past life experiences
2. Made me more paranoid about transporting paraphernalia via car (probably positive)
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Final Rating----> 9.7 out of 10
This was hands down my favorite psychedelic experience. Once I got past the comeup every single moment was pleasurable in some way even the come down. It is definatly rivaling with lsd's quality. Lsd is so much more expensive and rare that 4-aco-dmt wins the competition overall quite easily.
I would say at the peak (1-2 hours total) I reached a level 3. I saw buddah with some 3 dimensional triangles. The colors were purples and blues. I'm sure I saw some other amazing things that I cannot remember. While staring at my tie die tapestry the colors morphed and changed. All in all I've had much more impressive visuals but the euphoria and music enjoyment compensated for this shortcoming easily.
Feel free to add or put questions on this thread:awetrippie:

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Re: 4-aco-dmt Qualities [Re: i like cow poo]
    #15525674 - 12/16/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I was doubting between buying 4acodmt or 2c-e. You've helped me made the decision now :smile:

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Re: 4-aco-dmt Qualities [Re: spacer]
    #15525773 - 12/16/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

2c-e is shit compared to 4-aco, IMHO. I've tried both. I'm pretty convinced 4-aco is the king of psychedelic RCs. Even if it isn't king its so good I have no need to try any others again ever. People say it is much safer then most because its Chem structure is so similar to psilocin.:shrug:

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Re: 4-aco-dmt Qualities [Re: i like cow poo]
    #15526139 - 12/16/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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i like cow poo said:
2c-e is shit compared to 4-aco, IMHO. I've tried both. I'm pretty convinced 4-aco is the king of psychedelic RCs. Even if it isn't king its so good I have no need to try any others again ever. People say it is much safer then most because its Chem structure is so similar to psilocin.:shrug:



Yeah it looks awesome.. But does it give you as much energy as 3 tabs of acid???

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Re: 4-aco-dmt Qualities [Re: i like cow poo]
    #15526438 - 12/16/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Your conversion is wrong. The numbers you quoted have been posted on other forums, but they are incorrect. 13 mg of 4-aco-dmt freebase is equal to ~ 16 mg of 4-aco-dmt fumarate. The formula for freebase-to-fumarate for 4-aco-dmt is N / 0.8087, where N is the number of freebase mg. Fumarate-to-freebase is N * 0.8087.

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Re: 4-aco-dmt Qualities [Re: i like cow poo]
    #15526457 - 12/16/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Unfortunately freebase degrades very very very quickly.  You should probably try to convert it, or eat it all up soon.  I've heard of people's 4-AcO-DMT freebase going inactive in just a few weeks.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt Qualities [Re: BothHands]
    #15526734 - 12/16/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

^ yeah, if you want to store it as freebase, mix vinegar and baking soda to make carbon dioxide.  "Pour" the CO2 into the vial to displace the oxygen.

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Re: 4-aco-dmt Qualities [Re: spacer]
    #15527780 - 12/16/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I am using dissicant and oxygen remover packets to take all the air out of the vial. Plus I'm storing it in the fridge. I've heard how you store it makes alot of a difference.
@ spacer, it doesn't have near the energy of lsd:shrug:

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