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 treesniper119
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 Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#15605000 - 01/02/12 10:42 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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LongStrangeTrip said:People will make crazy assumptions, sure, but they won't spend 20 minutes listening to a news program....or learning ANYTHING...
America will turn into what you think only when Americans are so lazy and stupid that it is allowed to happen.
Welcome to 2012, where over the past few years, citizens have been bankrupted, jobless, forced outta there houses, conditioned into relying primarily on big brother to feed and supply all needs through stimulus and food stamps. If You rebel or do not accept the current system, you lose your life through losing source of food, water, shelter, family, & safety. Your government approves the tainted food you eat, the poisoned water you drink, & the "prescription" medicine you take, all of which make you sicker, not dead right away, but a slow sustained death that will cause you to rely more and more until you are dead & Don't worry about the children...Your children are safe in their prison schools, with their mandatory vaccinations, taught controlled, limited, & inaccurate knowledge. You are a slave. Welcome to 2012
BTW no one wants these things to happen except the people who are incorporating this system of government and the sheeple who are blind or "stupid and lazy" as you put it.
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 LongStrangeTrip
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605018 - 01/02/12 10:46 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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-Don't sit there at your computer typing to me about researching politics. I no longer stock interest in fake politics that your spoon fed on a daily basis, put the controller down, and step away from your television set.
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I don't watch television, I read....remember doing that in grade school  ?
You no longer having an interest in actual politics is exactly what your "enemies" want. They want you to sound like a dumb ass that does not live in the real world, so on the off chance you say something constructive / productive, no one listens to you because they think your a nut case that won't listen to reason, or has ever spent any time cultivating an intelligence that merits giving you any attention...
Want to make a change? Educate yourself and be well informed...more people will listen to what you say  
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treesniper119 said:
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LongStrangeTrip said:People will make crazy assumptions, sure, but they won't spend 20 minutes listening to a news program....or learning ANYTHING...
America will turn into what you think only when Americans are so lazy and stupid that it is allowed to happen.
Welcome to 2012, where over the past few years, citizens have been bankrupted, jobless, forced outta there houses, conditioned into relying primarily on big brother to feed and supply all needs through stimulus and food stamps. If You rebel or do not accept the current system, you lose your life through losing source of food, water, shelter, family, & safety. Your government approves the food you eat, the water you drink, & the medicine you take, all of which make you sicker, not dead right away, but a slow sustained death that will cause you to rely more and more untill you are dead. Your children are safe in their prison schools, with their mandatory vaccinations, and controlled knowledge. You are a slave. Welcome to 2012
Exactly what I am saying; if you talk like this in public, you have destroyed any chance of anyone listening 
And I agree with many of your statements...
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"Once in awhile, you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right"~ (Grateful Dead)
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"Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum."; "Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system."~ Cicero
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605031 - 01/02/12 10:48 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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THE INAUGURATION OF POLICE STATE USA 2012:
Obama Signs the “National Defense Authorization Act " (H.R. 1540), Which Repeals the US Constitution.
By Michel Chossudovsky, Montreal, Canada, January 1, 2012
URL of this article: www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28441
Global Research, January 1, 2012
With minimal media debate, at a time when Americans were celebrating the New Year with their loved ones, the “National Defense Authorization Act " H.R. 1540 was signed into law by President Barack Obama. The actual signing took place in Hawaii on the 31st of December.
According to Obama's "signing statement", the threat of Al Qaeda to the Security of the Homeland constitutes a justification for repealing fundamental rights and freedoms, with a stroke of the pen.
The controversial signing statement (see transcript below) is a smokescreen. Obama says he disagrees with the NDAA but he signs it into law.
"[I have] serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation, and prosecution of suspected terrorists."
Obama implements "Police State USA", while acknowledging that certain provisions of the NDAA are unacceptable. If such is the case, he could have either vetoed the NDAA (H.R. 1540) or sent it back to Congress with his objections.
The “National Defense Authorization Act " (H.R. 1540) is Obama's New Year's "Gift" to the American People.
He justifies the signing of the NDAA as a means to combating terrorism, as part of a counter-terrorism agenda. But in substance, any American opposed to the policies of the US government can --under the provisions of the NDAA-- be labelled a "suspected terrorist" and arrested under military detention.
"Moreover, I want to clarify that my Administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American citizens. Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a Nation. My Administration will interpret section 1021 in a manner that ensures that any detention it authorizes complies with the Constitution, the laws of war, and all other applicable law."
Barack Obama is a lawyer (a graduate from Harvard Law School). He knows fair well that his signing statement --which parrots his commitment to democracy-- is purely cosmetic. It has no force of law.
The signing statement does not in any way invalidate or modify the actual signing by President Obama of NDAA (H.R. 1540) into law.
"Democratic Dictatorship" in America
The “National Defense Authorization Act " (H.R. 1540) repeals the US Constitution. While the facade of democracy prevails, supported by media propaganda, the American republic is fractured. The tendency is towards the establishment of a totalitarian State, a military government dressed in civilian clothes.
The passage of NDAA is intimately related to Washington's global military agenda. The military pursuit of Worldwide hegemony also requires the "Militarization of the Homeland", namely the demise of the American Republic.
In substance, the signing statement is intended to mislead Americans and provide a "democratic face" to the President as well as to the unfolding post-911 Military Police State apparatus.
The "most important traditions and values" in derogation of the US Constitution have indeed been repealed, effective on New Year's Day, January 1st 2012.
The NDAA authorizes the arbitrary and indefinite military detention of American citizens.
The Lessons of History
This New Year's Eve December 31, 2011 signing of the NDAA will indelibly go down as a landmark in American history.
If we are to put this in a comparative historical context, the relevant provisions of the NDAA HR 1540 are, in many regards, comparable to those contained in the "Decree of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State", commonly known as the "Reichstag Fire Decree" (Reichstagsbrandverordnung) enacted in Germany under the Weimar Republic on 27 February 1933 by President (Field Marshal) Paul von Hindenburg.
Implemented in the immediate wake of the Reichstag Fire (which served as a pretext), this February 1933 decree was used to repeal civil liberties including the right of Habeas Corpus.
Article 1 of the February 1933 "Decree of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State" suspended civil liberties under the pretext of "protecting" democracy: "Thus, restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press, on the right of association and assembly, and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications, and warrants for house-searches, orders for confiscations, as well as restrictions on property rights are permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed." (Art. 1, emphasis added)
Constitutional democracy was nullified in Germany through the signing of a presidential decree.
The Reichstag Fire decree was followed in March 1933 by "The Enabling Act" (Ermächtigungsgesetz) which allowed (or enabled) the Nazi government of Chancellor Adolf Hitler to invoke de facto dictatorial powers. These two decrees enabled the Nazi regime to introduce legislation which was in overt contradiction with the 1919 Weimar Constitution.
The following year, upon the death of president Hindenburg in 1934, Hitler "declared the office of President vacant" and took over as Fuhrer, the combined function's of Chancellor and Head of State.
Obama's New Year's Gift to the American People
To say that January 1st 2012 is "A Sad Day for America" is a gross understatement.
The signing of NDAA (HR 1540) into law is tantamount to the militarization of law enforcement, the repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act and the Inauguration in 2012 of Police State USA.
As in Weimar Germany, fundamental rights and freedoms are repealed under the pretext that democracy is threatened and must be protected.
The NDAA is "Obama's New Year's Gift" to the American People.
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dtowntoker
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605042 - 01/02/12 10:51 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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yea that's cute^ though i saw it the first time you posted it... hide behind silly emoticons with tinfoil over their heads, what point are you making? Its not a conspiracy theory when its true bro... why else would the president make a law that states that any conspiritors are traitors and terrorists... thats very real dtowntoker,
lol i wish i had an emoticon with an ostrich sticking its head in the ground while in the background that ostrich's family was being killed and eaten. that would adequately describe your current mindset and your near future.
If what you were saying had any basis of truth, you would be bringing up some good points. The problem is, half of the time you don't know the truth, the other half you simply ignore the truth.
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dtowntoker
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: dtowntoker]
#15605052 - 01/02/12 10:54 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Find me some real media coverage to back up these wildly inaccurate views of what this bill does and doesn't do. Or are the media sources in on the conspiracy too? 
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LongStrangeTrip
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: zzripz]
#15605065 - 01/02/12 10:57 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Article 1 of the February 1933 "Decree of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State" suspended civil liberties under the pretext of "protecting" democracy: "Thus, restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press, on the right of association and assembly, and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications, and warrants for house-searches, orders for confiscations, as well as restrictions on property rights are permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed." (Art. 1, emphasis added)
This is a bit out of context, and I will try to explain as this is an area of History I know a lot about.
This was at a time that the Nazi party had been preparing to overthrow the republic for almost ten years...they did this in an ingenious way; by building up "copy cat" offices of state (like creating a Nazi "department of justice" that would preform the duties of the Weimar republics "justice department"). When they overthrew the republic, they were immediately prepared to replace the republics inner workings.
Nothing like that is happening right now in the states~
Also, this was a point in time where MANY political parties were vying for a majority representation in the government. The Nazi party began to attack speakers at their conventions; violence was a real life tool. That is not happening right now. No one is busting up internet formus where people speak out. No one is disrupting political rallies by beating the shit out of political leaders and their supporters in the streets.
Its callously ignorant to compare today to what was happening in Nazi Germany pseudo-intellectualism does no one any good~
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Nothing I say or do is factual; every single thing I write is a work of fiction. Got no idea what I'm talking about here~
"Once in awhile, you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right"~ (Grateful Dead)
"o puer, qui omnia nomini debes"; "You, boy, who owe's everything to a name"~ Mark Anthony
"Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum."; "Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system."~ Cicero
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dtowntoker
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: dtowntoker]
#15605101 - 01/02/12 11:07 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Let me guess, you're all Ron Paul supporters too 
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dtowntoker
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#15605106 - 01/02/12 11:08 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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LongStrangeTrip said:
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Article 1 of the February 1933 "Decree of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State" suspended civil liberties under the pretext of "protecting" democracy: "Thus, restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of opinion, including freedom of the press, on the right of association and assembly, and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and telephonic communications, and warrants for house-searches, orders for confiscations, as well as restrictions on property rights are permissible beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed." (Art. 1, emphasis added)
This is a bit out of context, and I will try to explain as this is an area of History I know a lot about.
This was at a time that the Nazi party had been preparing to overthrow the republic for almost ten years...they did this in an ingenious way; by building up "copy cat" offices of state (like creating a Nazi "department of justice" that would preform the duties of the Weimar republics "justice department"). When they overthrew the republic, they were immediately prepared to replace the republics inner workings.
Nothing like that is happening right now in the states~
Also, this was a point in time where MANY political parties were vying for a majority representation in the government. The Nazi party began to attack speakers at their conventions; violence was a real life tool. That is not happening right now. No one is busting up internet formus where people speak out. No one is disrupting political rallies by beating the shit out of political leaders and their supporters in the streets.
Its callously ignorant to compare today to what was happening in Nazi Germany pseudo-intellectualism does no one any good~
Stop using your legal and historical knowledge to talk so much sense. Seriously, it will overwhelm the simple thinkers.
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treesniper119
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#15605122 - 01/02/12 11:13 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Reading is so much fun! I love to read... So, You say you read & research? (Well, i still feel like your just arguing for the sake of arguing.) If not, What do you say about ANY of the points i made earlier about military vets coming clean and writing tons of books on the atrocities our American Government has committed. (Do you read? Surely you've read about this.)
All done in the name of what? Control? Control of what? Things? People? Certainly not in the name of liberty and the pursuit of happiness, unless being happy by definition is controlling others and eventually all things.
I don't care if others place me in a sterotype, what I speak of is the truth, accept it or deny it, it will not change.
For the record,
I always encourage friends with new children in this world to home school them when they are ready to learn (I wasn't home schooled either) tons of studies showing how American schools are dumbing down, I encourage people to get their green thumb on and learn how to grow their own produce, Don't rely on walmart and food stamps, buy your own non irradiated/non hybridized seeds. I & my family never drink tap water and for good measure, (read about the contaminants place into our water purposely) learn how to get your own fresh water, or to dig a well (if you read like i do you'll know how). These things seem like common sense for the patriot who has read and researched, and that is ready to defend his country from domestic tyranny, as is YOUR job as an AMERICAN!
Mandatory vaccinations should be a pretty clear sign as to whats going on.
research & READ this, understand, and then intelligently comment back...
http://wemustknow.net/2010/03/nanotech-dyncorp-and-nsa-goes-b-a-n-g-the-unholy-trinity-and-the-implosion-of-freedom/
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dtowntoker
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605141 - 01/02/12 11:19 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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I don't read any paranoid rants.
http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/12/ndaa-faq-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/
You should stop reading others' paranoid rants, and start realizing that the man isn't (always) out to get you.
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treesniper119
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605147 - 01/02/12 11:20 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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No one is disrupting political rallies by beating the shit out of political leaders and their supporters in the streets.
the simplest youtube digging will show you that what you have so intellectually posted is not the case.
lose the ego, gain some respect for whats going on.
or, keep livin the dream, till you get mad, wake up, and then you protest and its another pepper spraying video except its your face, for harmlessly protesting.
What?
NWO = modern nazi-ism correct!
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treesniper119
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: dtowntoker]
#15605168 - 01/02/12 11:25 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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@ dtowntoker, "i don't read paranoid rants" you call me paranoid, and I rant on here my opinions, you read them and respond accordingly, you contradict yourself.
The unholytrinity link i posted is not a rant, its backed by scientific evidence, with tons of links at the bottom of the page for reference to the in depth summation of the secret war on the american people by its corrupt government.
Please add something to the conversation or at your word don't post on my rants
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dtowntoker
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605183 - 01/02/12 11:28 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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NWO
There is no conversation here, there is you spewing ignorant, paranoid, delusional rants, and me half making fun of your rants, half trying to post fairly simple legal insight into what you are mistaken on.
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LongStrangeTrip
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605209 - 01/02/12 11:33 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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NWO = modern nazi-ism correct!
Only someone who is not well read in Nazism would say that sry
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What do you say about ANY of the points i made earlier about military vets coming clean and writing tons of books on the atrocities our American Government has committed.
I actually agreed with you if you re-read what I said....
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I always encourage friends with new children in this world to home school them when they are ready to learn (I wasn't home schooled either) tons of studies showing how American schools are dumbing down,
I went to public school and now attend a university...sorry I am extremely intelligent by any measures. School is what you make of it. I hated high school and found a lot of what I was being taught to be watered down and devoid of intellectual depth. Smart people will use that to their advantage, and get the GOOD out of their schooling.
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Don't rely on walmart and food stamps,
One of these is a heartless corporation (walmart). How are you going to put them in the same category?
The other, food stamps, are a wonderful example of a BEAUTIFUL social welfare system that was established after ww2, for VERY GOOD reasons. This is not the place to debate it, but I think food stamps are a great example of something good in the country. Yea some people take advantage of them, but the country is a better place with them.
If your thinking is food stamps = evil, there is something wrong imo~
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These things seem like common sense for the patriot who has read and researched, and that is ready to defend his country from domestic tyranny, as is YOUR job as an AMERICAN!
They don't seem like common sense to me, they seem kind of nuts  conspiracy theories about the government lacing our tap water with mind controlling substances anyone?
And all your peaceful protestor videos...sorry those are not the political rallies I was referring to.....
by political rallies I meant RALLIES HELD BY POLITICAL PARTY MEMBERS. Yea we can agree that the police in the states do not react wisley / correctly / justly when it comes to peaceful protest...but once again, your example is WAAAAAAAAY out of context, and does not speak to the point I was making.
This is not Syria; they murder protesters. Yea we are dbags and we pepper spray people who don't deserve it, but once again, its a different level.
And YOU say I need to loss MY ego?! I am living a dream?!?!
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Nothing I say or do is factual; every single thing I write is a work of fiction. Got no idea what I'm talking about here~
"Once in awhile, you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right"~ (Grateful Dead)
"o puer, qui omnia nomini debes"; "You, boy, who owe's everything to a name"~ Mark Anthony
"Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum."; "Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system."~ Cicero
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treesniper119
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605222 - 01/02/12 11:37 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Call it what you want, even that label seems silly to me , but to deny the existence of evil in america, from its government, through history which slowly reveals it's truths as it is deciphered, is ignorance, which to many is their bliss. No one wants to think of the evils that are out there, to think about them is to consider them, which constitutes a conscious change in the individual, most of which will not allow that to happen in their precious perfect system of a world that revolves solely around them. IE. lose the ego. See the truth. Accept it & deal with it accordingly.
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LongStrangeTrip
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605236 - 01/02/12 11:39 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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I did not disagree and say there was no "evil" in America, though I question your usage of such an ambiguous word as "evil" in this context.
you:
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lose the ego. See the truth. Accept it & deal with it accordingly.
Obi-Wan:
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only a sith deals in absolutes
 
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Nothing I say or do is factual; every single thing I write is a work of fiction. Got no idea what I'm talking about here~
"Once in awhile, you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right"~ (Grateful Dead)
"o puer, qui omnia nomini debes"; "You, boy, who owe's everything to a name"~ Mark Anthony
"Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum."; "Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system."~ Cicero
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dtowntoker
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605246 - 01/02/12 11:41 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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LST, I applaud your efforts, however it is like throwing a rubber ball at a brick wall.
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Call it what you want, even that label seems silly to me, but to deny the existence of evil in america, from its government, through history which slowly reveals it's truths as it is deciphered, is ignorance, which to many is their bliss. No one wants to think of the evils that are out there, to think about them is to consider them, which constitutes a conscious change in the individual, most of which will not allow that to happen in their precious perfect system of a world that revolves solely around them. IE. lose the ego. See the truth. Accept it & deal with it accordingly.
There is a difference between seeing the "evil" and falling off the deep end. Ignorance walks both ways, and to try and claim you are "enlightened" to some secret knowledge makes me think you should admitted a psych ward.
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treesniper119
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605255 - 01/02/12 11:42 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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If you did not know already...Nazi bloodlines run deep in America, believe it or not, from Nazi gold in our banks, Nazi leaders in seats of power here in America, with Nazi strategies for our country. Ignoring history will repeat history... very simple to understand, don't make mistakes of the past.
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dtowntoker
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605267 - 01/02/12 11:46 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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So its not the Jews that control the media, banks, and corporations any more? Its not the reptilian overlords? Its now the Nazis?
This is almost too much for me to deal with. Get back to your conspiracy forum, this is a political discussion forum.
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LongStrangeTrip
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Re: effectively ends the Bill of Rights in America [Re: treesniper119]
#15605302 - 01/02/12 11:52 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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If you did not know already...Nazi bloodlines run deep in America, believe it or not, from Nazi gold in our banks, Nazi leaders in seats of power here in America, with Nazi strategies for our country. Ignoring history will repeat history... very simple to understand, don't make mistakes of the past.
Well yea this is the point where I give up 
...you do realize that Hitler tricked THE WORLD into thinking his intentions were peaceful, in the years leading up to the second world war (1925-1938), including the big-money industries who began supporting the Nazi party in those years, and the foreign governments who made concessions to the Nazi government.
Your not interested in learning about history, your interested in being right~
So no, its Nazi bloodlines making themselves known in America its just THAT SIMPLE
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This is almost too much for me to deal with. Get back to your conspiracy forum, this is a political discussion forum.
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Nothing I say or do is factual; every single thing I write is a work of fiction. Got no idea what I'm talking about here~
"Once in awhile, you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right"~ (Grateful Dead)
"o puer, qui omnia nomini debes"; "You, boy, who owe's everything to a name"~ Mark Anthony
"Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum."; "Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system."~ Cicero
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