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 Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: Cervantes]
#15796344 - 02/12/12 05:16 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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JackthaTripper said:
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I wrote and made most of this webpage, and it is under construction and unfinished in some parts.
www.wearechangewichita.com/the-fight/the-occult-and-beyond/
I would REALLY like it if you were to check out this portion of the site as it pertains to this discussion and your interest too (feel free to browse around to other sections too of course).
There is a lot there it is pretty long but I would really appreciate your take, hopefully you can fill in some gaps and I can teach you a thing or two. I don't want to derail this thread so feel free to PM me if you want.
Thanks and Peace Bro!
Hey man thanks very much. I would love to collaborate with you. the more of us get toether on this complex subject the better. I haven't checked oout your links yet, but just felt the need to say this first.Quote:
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty
http://www.howtallisthestatueofliberty.org/
http://www.howtallisthestatueofliberty.org/
Depends on where you measure it... (Seems you are not counting the French made base, nor the American pedestal... just head to toe).
But it seems your calculations may be off by six inches.
Well the website that features the measurement I gave seems pretty meticulous in its measurements, AND if we take into account the overall picture, the Freemasonic idea for the stature, design, and freemasonic foundation of the statue I would say that out of all said measurements the one my source gives would fit more because the love the 11. Why should they count the base---? the neasurement would be relevent to what the statue represents--their goddess concept. But until I am actually there with my measureing tape I cannot let you know for sure. But why would that site lie?---would you say it is a 'conspiracy' site?
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: zzripz]
#15796398 - 02/12/12 05:46 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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The Statue of Liberty is 22 stories high:
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How tall is the Statue of Liberty? The Statue is 305ft. 1in. from the ground to the tip of the flame. It is the equivalent height of a 22-story building. In 1886, it was the tallest structure in New York. See more Statue Statistics.http://www.nps.gov/stli/faqs.htm
22 is 2 X 11
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: zzripz]
#15797783 - 02/12/12 12:54 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Well the website that features the measurement I gave seems pretty meticulous in its measurements, AND if we take into account the overall picture, the Freemasonic idea for the stature, design, and freemasonic foundation of the statue I would say that out of all said measurements the one my source gives would fit more because the love the 11. Why should they count the base---? the neasurement would be relevent to what the statue represents--their goddess concept. But until I am actually there with my measureing tape I cannot let you know for sure. But why would that site lie?---would you say it is a 'conspiracy' site?
Ignore all evidence that is contrary to your theory
Argue the bits that aren't contrary support the conclusion because the conclusion would be supported
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The Statue of Liberty is 22 stories high:
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How tall is the Statue of Liberty? The Statue is 305ft. 1in. from the ground to the tip of the flame. It is the equivalent height of a 22-story building. In 1886, it was the tallest structure in New York. See more Statue Statistics.http://www.nps.gov/stli/faqs.htm
22 is 2 X 11
A story is not a set measurement - I've seen people define the height of story as anything from 10 to 15 feet. So a 305 foot statue could reasonably be called anything from 30 stories to 20 stories. As usual, you just take the most convenient statistic.
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#15797840 - 02/12/12 01:04 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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I think i needto cleanse my mind after reading all this  .
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#15801557 - 02/13/12 02:01 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Ignore all evidence that is contrary to your theory
Why does this accusation not apply to you?
You do it all the time. But you do it also in a way which includes denying, or conveniently 'forgetting' the whole picture--as the investigation continues-- which you fail to remember. And so anyone trying to enlighten you about this complex subject can only feel frustrated with such an attitude.
Either you are for real ior you are a definatly a shill whose role here at these forums is to pretend they don't see what is being shown--which ANYONE with common sense can--or you are affected by you 'education', as I have explained above, which prevents you from seeing how the powers that be create a mytholgy which underlies your sense of reality unbeknownst to your conscious mind. In order to begin seeing this you need let go of your rigic mechanistic philosophy which has been induced in you since being very small.
You can see from the sites I quoted those measurements from how they were not 'conspiracy sites', so how come they reported those very telling measurements then. Answer?
You do now agree that the Statue is Freemasonic right? Or do you still deny that?
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A story is not a set measurement - I've seen people define the height of story as anything from 10 to 15 feet. So a 305 foot statue could reasonably be called anything from 30 stories to 20 stories. As usual, you just take the most convenient statistic.
Why, in your opinion is THE PENTAGON (11 letters) 77 feet tall. Give us your 'scientific' 'statistical' 'logical' reason?
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: zzripz]
#15801700 - 02/13/12 03:48 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Either you are for real ior you are a definatly a shill whose role here at these forums is to pretend they don't see what is being shown--which ANYONE with common sense can--or you are affected by you 'education', as I have explained above, which prevents you from seeing how the powers that be create a mytholgy which underlies your sense of reality unbeknownst to your conscious mind. In order to begin seeing this you need let go of your rigic mechanistic philosophy which has been induced in you since being very small.
Actually I work for the CIA and I am paying him good money to say these things.
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Either you are for real ior you are a definatly a shill whose role here at these forums is to pretend they don't see what is being shown--which ANYONE with common sense can--or you are affected by you 'education', as I have explained above, which prevents you from seeing how the powers that be create a mytholgy which underlies your sense of reality unbeknownst to your conscious mind. In order to begin seeing this you need let go of your rigic mechanistic philosophy which has been induced in you since being very small.
Actually I work for the CIA and I am paying him good money to say these things.
Holy Shit!
Me too!
I can't believe I am admitting this on a forum!
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: zzripz]
#15801788 - 02/13/12 05:06 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Are you arrogant enough to be sure that this all "means" anything at all?
No, I am intrigued how people like yourself cannot see the meaning of all this, hence the reason me trying to offer an explanation for why that might be, though of course I predicted you wouldn't accept my insight. lol
I see the true, super secret, hidden meaning that you obviously cannot
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: zzripz] 1
#15801824 - 02/13/12 05:31 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Either you are for real ior you are a definatly a shill whose role here at these forums is to pretend they don't see what is being shown--which ANYONE with common sense can--or you are affected by you 'education', as I have explained above, which prevents you from seeing how the powers that be create a mytholgy which underlies your sense of reality unbeknownst to your conscious mind. In order to begin seeing this you need let go of your rigic mechanistic philosophy which has been induced in you since being very small.
For all these claims, you sure spend an awful lot of time insulting people and presuming to tell them about their childhood, education, and mode of thinking, rather than backing up your claims. Interesting to see which side of this question discusses the merits of the case and which side just repeats unsupported conclusions and flames people who ask for some evidence.
After all this nonsense, you've still not shown any evidence that your number theory has any legitimacy. It appears Benford's Law explains pretty much all the 11 sightings you mention, even if they occur more often than a random distribution would predict, which you've certainly not shown either.
The rest of the 'magic numbers' seem to include any multiple of 11 or 9, any number with digits that add to 11 or 9, any words with hebrew or english that equal 11 or 9, and so forth. Add in the fact that you ignore negative instances (all those figures that don't give you something you can massage into 9 or 11), and it seems pretty doubtful this is anything but confirmation bias and constantly changing goalposts.
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: johnm214]
#15801968 - 02/13/12 07:04 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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I am not "flaming" anyone. I notice you conveniently ignore the fact that right on first appearence the guy I was speaking too suggested I had a condition which makes me see things that are not there. Did I go running to you to complain? No. But it could be argued that that was flaming, but criticizing a persons judgement, so please do not take sides like that. Obviously you share his worldview so you would gladly ignore such as that, as you usually do.
Bentford's Law. I see, but you don't even make an effort to link to anywhere to help people look at this. I dont care what you think of me, with your judgements, but at least I make effort to show exacmple and give links and videos which is more than the group you bellong to:
I Googled, and found this More 11:11 moronity | John Graham-Cumming
But I dont really dig what he is saying. LOOK:
Let us start at the very beeegining. A very good place to start...
911
WHY that day?
Now you can say it isn't '9/11' it is September 11, but how many freekin times have we heard the politicians saying 9/11? There is a funny video I've saved somewhere where you see all of em saying '9/11 9/11 9/11' 'terrorists' 'terronism--over and over.
Now the very number 9/11 is THE American emergency number isn't it? So it would eg be perfect for a flase flag event wouldn't it? You know manipulating minds--wouldn't you say? I am not saying that is just it, but that was their BIG HERALDING IN THE NWO DAY. 11 years PRIOR to that day, GeorgeBush did a NWO speech ON 9/11, 1990. you dont see a connection? How does your mate Bentford explain just this?
how come he did't give it on 8/11, or 10/11 or 12 years before 9/11?
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The rest of the 'magic numbers' seem to include any multiple of 11 or 9, any number with digits that add to 11 or 9, any words with hebrew or english that equal 11 or 9, and so forth. Add in the fact that you ignore negative instances (all those figures that don't give you something you can massage into 9 or 11), and it seems pretty doubtful this is anything but confirmation bias and constantly changing goalposts.
I dont really know what you mean because you do not give examples.
I am seeing definate patterns. It bemuses me that others dont, hence I have tried to give my opinion why that may not be, one of them being that the mechanistic enforced 'education' system we have to attend is designed to atrophy the functiion of imagination which can see different layers of meaning. For this is what mythos is all about. It is seeing associations. One book which really made me realize the power of mythology was the Sacred Mushroom and the Cross by John Allegro. HE wrote that book WAYYY before 9/11 and 'conspiracy theories' yet he shows clearly how the writers of myth constructed it in layers of meaning, the core layers only for the understanding of the initiated. And this they acutally refer to when in Revelations it is writ:
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Here is wisedome. Let him that hath vnderstanding, count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man, and his number is, sixe hundred threescore and sixe.
- King James Version (1611)
Isn't what is being referred to there the very same what this thread is trying to explore and share? It is saying 'for those who have understanding'--those who can read beneath the literal surface of the script! Where you count the letters, and recognize number, and symbolism.
This has all be admitted by high degree Masons, and occultists.
So are you saying John, that the powers that be have left all this behind as mere superstition? That you view all this as mumbo jumbo?
I asked the question above--why is the Pentagon 77 feet? Do you know?
Seems a strange number to build to?
it doesn't hurt to say you don't. I am not coming on here as THE foremost authority of the occult elite. I admit that I am learning as I go along. This is very complex. It is not JUST numbers, but includes occultist astrology, geomancy, symbolism, wordplay, etc etc.
Why did those towers have 110 stories each? There is that 11 again.
Did you know Larry Silverstein went and bought the Sears Tower which is 110 stories high and full of asbestos?!
Why? These questions very much intrigue me, as does the NDAA bill calculating as 911 /andor 11
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: zzripz]
#15803567 - 02/13/12 02:24 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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11 years PRIOR to that day, GeorgeBush did a NWO speech ON 9/11, 1990. you dont see a connection?
No, I don't. How would it help them to do an attack 11 years after some speech that no one remembers? I think it they chose that day because its the emergency number.
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one of them being that the mechanistic enforced 'education' system we have to attend is designed to atrophy the functiion of imagination which can see different layers of meaning.
To contend that the educators who write the cirriculum are designing it to destroy imagination is silly. Education is bad for many reasons, but that just isn't one of them. Teaching is a difficult task. They do their best with the resources they have. At the end of the day, the education system sucks, but they do what they can to encourage creativity and imagination.
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For this is what mythos is all about. It is seeing associations.
If you look too hard for associations, you are going to find them where they do not exist in reality. The brain is a pattern matching device.
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I asked the question above--why is the Pentagon 77 feet? Do you know?
Seems a strange number to build to?
If it was 66 or 88 feet you would also find that highly suspicious.
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Why did those towers have 110 stories each? There is that 11 again.
110 is not 11. If it had 66 stories, 77 stories, 91 stories, or any number of stories really, you would claim that was significant in some sinister way.
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No, I don't. How would it help them to do an attack 11 years after some speech that no one remembers? I think it they chose that day because its the emergency number.
In this VERY complex subject you cannot un-remember things you have found out in the exploration. You have to try and keep track. pay attention, because it can be deep. Of course somethings get forgot so I have to remind myself, but the GIST of it has to be kept in mind otherwise you just will get nowehere.
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'How would it help them to do an attack 11 years after some speech that no one remembers?
Who is noone? I am very much remembering it, and you can be damned sure those invested in what Pressy Bush senior was talking about--the New World Order--are remembering it alright!
First SEE that 11 is being used again and again.
Dont conclude because you personally cannot fathom why that number is significant to them and then conclude that it is therfore worthless to investigate
I have found 11 is their "master number'. It doesn't necessarily HAVE to mean just one thing, but could be assocative--having multiple meanings for them. Some researcher claim that numbers themselves have vibrational qualities which can affect us---this idea 'comes from' Pythagoras.
As you notice, 911 is an EMERGENCY number, so, please play with this---enter the mind of some group who choose a day that is gonna be their 'New Pearl Harbour', and is designed to by the major lynchpin for their dream of a New World Order. In order to drive this into the 'masses' consciousness they must really make this event or mega-ritual seem like a MAJOR EMERGENCY, right Which of course it was, but the numbers attached to it--the actual emergency number would deepen this sense even more, and continue doing so as the repeat that number over and over and over and over again in their media. Remember all those emergency warning that proceeded 9/11 also?
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To contend that the educators who write the cirriculum are designing it to destroy imagination is silly. Education is bad for many reasons, but that just isn't one of them. Teaching is a difficult task. They do their best with the resources they have. At the end of the day, the education system sucks, but they do what they can to encourage creativity and imagination.
Well, all I can suggest is you checkout the work of John Taylor Gatto who was a teacher, and was to expose exactly what so-called 'education' is all about. You can read his book online The Underground History of American Education
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It began in Prussia …At the beginning of the 19th century, Prussia decided that in order to have efficient management it needed to remove the ability of ordinary people to think, of ordinary people to imagine and invent , and they drew on an ancient system which had more or less been contructed on philosophers since Plato called Universal Schooling. They had to force it at bayonet point, you know under pain of the law or otherwise people catch on too quickly...the date is 1819. For the first time in human history, a successful universal system of forced schooling is in place ….[brought successfully to be by the force of bayonets
Gatto is not the only one to heavily criticize so-called education of course, and it is even generally known that it is geared to emphasize left-brain thinking and thus atrophy our imagination.
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If you look too hard for associations, you are going to find them where they do not exist in reality. The brain is a pattern matching device.
LOL. you make it sound like the brain and mind is a machine. I am dead against that worldview. That is the very worldview promoted by 'education'--namely that we are deterministic robots with no free-will. Meanwhiiiile the 'hidden hand'==the occultists behind the scene/curtain==== have as their prophet Aleister Crowley who is supposedly to have channeled a spirit dictating him The Book of the Law within which it says toDo What Thou Wilt Shall be the Whole of the Law. See a contradiction here?
Who is this law referring to? The slaves? Most of us? Who are brainwashed to conform and believe we are meaningless flukes on a meaningless planet, and are just here to not think feel and keep workin, and paying taxes to an evil fukin war machine that drops depleted uranium, and agent organge, and nukes, and BOMBS on babies, children, people, ALL life?
William Ramsey, in his book Prophet of Evil: Aleister Crowley, 9/11 and the New World Ordermakes it clear that Crowley was not meaning ALL people, but an aristocratic hidden elite! And are they NOT doing just what the hell they want to do and not giving a shit about the consequences?
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If it was 66 or 88 feet you would also find that highly suspicious.
Well, it is true that those numbers, because they are multiples of 11, for example 6x11, and 8x11 are of course relevant to them, but in understanding why they would choose 77, you surely have to know about THAT number. Why THAT one? Whats with the 77? So you begin looking into that, and find correlations. How come for example Flight 77 was the one to crash into The Pentagon? I have explained above the signifance of that number as quoted by Crowley,
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The sublime and supreme septenary in its mature magical manifestation through matter…written in Hebrew Ayin Zayin (OZ)…Capricornus, the Devil of the Tarot; which is the picture of the Goat of the Sabbath on an altar. [2][url=
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110 is not 11. If it had 66 stories, 77 stories, 91 stories, or any number of stories really, you would claim that was significant in some sinister way.
See your not keeping up. We have already said more than once that in gematria the zeros are left out, and thus 110 without the 0 = 11
As a matter of reminding you, Building 7 which is the 'Salomon Building' had 47 floors-- 4+7 = 11. But did you miss the name of that building, and how it can be associated with the biblical story of Solomon, and thus Solomon's Temple, or is this too far out for you?
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: zzripz] 1
#15836393 - 02/20/12 04:41 AM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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I have found 11 is their "master number'. It doesn't necessarily HAVE to mean just one thing, but could be assocative--having multiple meanings for them.
Why would they have a master number? How would that help them take over the world?
If these occult folks are so powerful, why would they play games with numbers?
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Some researcher claim that numbers themselves have vibrational qualities which can affect us---this idea 'comes from' Pythagoras.
Those kind of vibrations do not exist.
I don't think it is possible to take over the world. There are so many leaders and they are changing all the time. Someone could take over some aspect of the world, temporarily, but no one can run it all.
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Why would they have a master number? How would that help them take over the world?
Because they believe in the power of numbers in their occult belief system, hence they have master numbers. It may not make sense to you but it does to them.
It is not ONLY A 'master-number' that they hope will help maintain and acheive their 'Great Work' their NWO. The use other stuff also like building measurements, geomancy, occultist astrology, and secret rituals, and all forms of symbolism---which they believe is the more powerful when their slaves do not understand it.
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If these occult folks are so powerful, why would they play games with numbers?
Because they think that by doing these 'old methods' it will keep them powerful? With me? Apparently this occult shit goes quite far back, to the Pharaohs, to Babylon.
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Some researcher claim that numbers themselves have vibrational qualities which can affect us---this idea 'comes from' Pythagoras.
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Those kind of vibrations do not exist.
How do you actually know that? Reality is vibrational is it not? Isn't everything vibrating?
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I don't think it is possible to take over the world. There are so many leaders and they are changing all the time. Someone could take over some aspect of the world, temporarily, but no one can run it all.
Well that is their dream of a NWO. They believe their way should be imposed on everyone on earth. Have you seen what happens to people when they 'occupy' 'their property', even with polite manners?
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: zzripz] 1
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Apparently this occult shit goes quite far back, to the Pharaohs, to Babylon.
Yes, but that occult shit is about as believable as santa claus.
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Those kind of vibrations do not exist.
How do you actually know that? Reality is vibrational is it not? Isn't everything vibrating?
Reality is not vibrational. Everything is not vibrating, unless you are talking about temperature. Everyone who I have ever met who talks about vibrations doesn't understand what a vibration is, and is severely misusing the term.
All of my new age friends talk about vibrational energy, but when I ask them to be more specific, they are like "You know, that energy...." I ask what energy is and they mumble something about vibrations.
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Have you seen what happens to people when they 'occupy' 'their property', even with polite manners?
No. What happens when people occupy the new world order's property?
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: zzripz]
#15838731 - 02/20/12 04:23 PM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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Here is wisedome. Let him that hath vnderstanding, count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man, and his number is, sixe hundred threescore and sixe.
- King James Version (1611)
so it's 636 as three score would be thirty
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Did you know Larry Silverstein went and bought the Sears Tower which is 110 stories high and full of asbestos?!
no he didnt
American Landmark Properties Ltd. id the dominant share holder
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15839249 - 02/20/12 05:53 PM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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so it's 636 as three score would be thirty
Is a score not twenty? Or did Lincoln fuck up on the Gettysburg Address in 1863?
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: MorphinTime]
#15840093 - 02/20/12 08:48 PM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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Yes, a score is 20.
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Yes, but that occult shit is about as believable as santa claus.
That is not the point. The point is --do their exist occultist clues all over 9/11, etc. If they believe in the occult(which actually means 'hidden', so obviously their beliefs are 'hidden') doesn't mean you have to, but if you have interest in this obviously you have to investigate it or else you don't.
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Reality is not vibrational. Everything is not vibrating, unless you are talking about temperature. Everyone who I have ever met who talks about vibrations doesn't understand what a vibration is, and is severely misusing the term.
Again, that is your worldview, and is besides the point in this thread of inquiry (this thread isn't titled 'is reality vibratory?'). We are trying to find out how these occultists see reality, and why they use numbers etc in their occult pratices, and rituals, such as their mega-ritual of 9/11.
There is eveidence that a big part of their belief system includes Hermeticism, and in Hermeticism there is called a Quote:
"Principle of Vibration":The Principle of Vibration embodies the idea that motion is manifest in everything in the Universe, that nothing rests, and everything moves, vibrates, and circles.[3] This principle explains that the differences between different manifestations of Matter, Energy, Mind, and even Spirit, are the result of only different "vibrations".[4] The higher a person is on the scale, the higher the rate of vibration will be. Here, The All is purported to be at an infinite level of vibration, almost to the point of being at rest. There are said to be millions upon millions of varying degrees between the highest level, The All, and the objects of the lowest vibration.[5]
Mental Transmutation is described as the practical application of this principle. To change one's mental state is to change vibration. One may do this by an effort of Will, by means of deliberately "fixing the attention" upon a more desirable state.[6]” [source]
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No. What happens when people occupy the new world order's property?
you musta missed the news huh?
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Re: New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 [Re: zzripz] 1
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Again, that is your worldview, and is besides the point in this thread of inquiry (this thread isn't titled 'is reality vibratory?'). We are trying to find out how these occultists see reality, and why they use numbers etc in their occult pratices, and rituals, such as their mega-ritual of 9/11.
It's not some difference in worldviews between you and your opponents that makes your argument absurd - it's the way in which all your arguments rely on the existence of a class of people who believe absurd, sometimes dumb things but have almost supernatural-level control over world events. We are asking for proof these people exist and that they believe these things - without it, obviously we are going to disagree with your theories. Just because obscure myths can be found does not mean that people act on them.
My theory is that the Pentagon is 77 feet tall because sometimes buildings are 77 feet tall, and yours is that there is a secret society of politically powerful 11-worshippers who either built it that tall on purpose. You seem to think that claiming that you're only "investigating" this theory of yours somehow means that we can pretend the theory is correct. But our issue is not whether 77 can be interpreted in some way that makes sense for occultists; the issue is whether or not these people exist at all.
When we ask why you think these people would exist, you point to the Pentagon's height and claim it's evidence that they exist. Then we ask why you think it's evidence (as opposed to just being a random fact), and you point to your invented class of people and say that it's obviously evidence because these people (obviously) exist. Isn't that absurd?
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