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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: shamanamba]
    #15485455 - 12/08/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

LMAO!!!! Dude good work. I gotta admit i was skeptical at first but you pulled it off. I can't wait to try this. So do you think acidic water would work or is it better to use everclear? What did the white stuff look like under the microscope?

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: OnePerEyeM8]
    #15485472 - 12/08/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'm suprised it worked, but on the other hand I'm not suprised it worked:lol:I've done psilocin extractions...A LOT. And here's what I've found;
1. It works a lot better if you heat it with a double-boiler. I shoot for 150f, so as to not destroy the active proponents. At what point do they break down? it's been debated, but I promise I've been up to 170f and it still got me really high.
2. water does work. Only a month or so ago, I took 1600 dry grams of G. Validipes and did a triple water extraction. I used 1600ml of tap water, and a crock-pot. I heated for 1/2 hour, decanted, then 1 hour and decanted, and then 2 hours and decanted. I conbined the three extractions into the crockpot overnight and wound up with one FULL apple-juice jug of liquid. I added half a container of country-time lemonade. I called it,"big gym's laughing lemonade":lol: It worked out to 1 cup of lemonade=20 dry grams of gyms. I drank 2 cups. I cried:raveface:

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: SomeGuy]
    #15485526 - 12/08/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You acidified the water after you extracted the alkaloids? Have you tried adding the lemon juice before the extraction process?

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #15485558 - 12/08/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

psilocic and psilocybin are both soluble in water and alcahol. You acidify the water in an A/B extraction or an STB extraction to turn a non-soluble substance(often DMT) into a soluble substance(dmt-HCL, or DMT acetate, ect.) it's not useful here

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: SomeGuy]
    #15485561 - 12/08/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Good thread, good science.:awehigh:

I'm surprised that extractions are this unpopular, I run practically all of my cakes through a water extraction. Everclear sounds neat though, I wish my goo was magic.


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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: SomeGuy]
    #15485674 - 12/08/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Ok I get it. Thanks for clarifying that. Do you think alcohol would work best especially since it's a volatile liquid it would evaporate much faster then water?

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: BargainBab]
    #15485684 - 12/08/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I was reading a tek a couple months back about using cranberry juice and vitamin c mix to extract from unspent cakes I guess the dude could never get his sub to fruit so he started just doing extractions.


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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: shamanamba]
    #15485703 - 12/08/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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The computer screen and this keyboard are about all that's confining my sanity to the 3rd dimension right now. I scrapped the resin out of the jar and put it on a microscope slide... then just licked it off the slide.

It tastes like a mixture of crushed up tylenol, chalk, and kerosene that has be vomited up by an angry drunken bee who proceeded to invite all his millions of buddies into my intestines and have a disco.

ohh gotta go, the snake dropped his shoe again.





I was very sceptical, and under the impression that cakes wouldn't have a good amount of psilocybin to trip off of. Good job man! I might even try this myself now.:scaryshroom:

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: gizmo1]
    #15485704 - 12/08/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Here I found it this was taken from erowid but the article is from like 95 so take it how you want...

  o  psilocin extraction

To extract the mycelium, simply add ~500g of Cranberry Juice mixed with
1/2tsp of ascorbic acid crystals (vitamin C) to each jar of
well-permeated mycelium and shake well.  Add a glass marble as an
agitator if you like.  The acidified liquid will remove the active
components, leaving behind the rye grains.  Pour off the liquid and
enjoy.  The extracted liquid should be a milky consistency with a thick,
frothy layer of mycelium.  If you want to get all the material, then do
a second extraction with another cup of juice.

It is probably an aquired taste, but I have found the resulting brew to
be quite palatable, and have never had any nausea using this method.
The onset of the trip occurs in about 20-30 minutes.

When you are done, there is always some residual mycelium left on the
grain.  Rather than throw it out, try innoculating your backyard compost
pile.  - Or take it to you local field, etc.  Perhaps we can encourage
this fungus to extend it's range across the world.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_cultivation16.shtml


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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: gizmo1]
    #15485735 - 12/08/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I've also read somewhere (sorry I can't find the source anymore) that psilocybin is more soluble than psilocin in regular water. To try to get the psilocin you have to acidify the water, any truth to that?

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: MachineElf1.618]
    #15485767 - 12/08/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

nope, no truth to that. According to the Merck index, they are both highly soluble in water

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: SomeGuy]
    #15485796 - 12/08/11 01:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I guess I could be wrong, I've extracted it into alcahol, water and acidified water(with emergen-C) and they all worked well. Here's a link to what the Merck manual says;
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/psilocybin/psilocybin_chemistry.shtml

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: SomeGuy]
    #15486562 - 12/08/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yep. I learned all I needed to know about extractions. I think I'm gonna stay away from that crap, at least for a while until I'm feeling ballsy again lol. Actual mushrooms just seem much more worth the time and effort.


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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: shamanamba]
    #15487050 - 12/08/11 04:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

How did the rest of your night go? Was there much nausea, did tit get more intense from the level three?

I am super curious about your experience :]

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: RoastedPete]
    #15487148 - 12/08/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Is this possible with unspent cakes?

btw great read man. Impressed:mushroom2:


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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #15487201 - 12/08/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Spent cakes are spent as far as using as spawn.  The mycelium has already fruited and it's time to die a natural death.  Mycelium doesn't produce actives in noticeable amounts until fruiting, so it's likely you'd still be able to extract some psilocybin from the cakes.  However, since psilocybin is water soluble you could as easily extract it in water as in expensive everclear, or at least that's the results of the tests I ran several years ago trying to duplicate pf's claims.
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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: RoastedPete]
    #15487428 - 12/08/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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How did the rest of your night go? Was there much nausea, did tit get more intense from the level three?

I am super curious about your experience :]





Me too, fill us in please.  :-)

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: Fishermanj]
    #15487519 - 12/08/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: vortex93]
    #15489071 - 12/09/11 12:19 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I stayed at about the top of level 3, not quite 4, for about 2 hours. It could have been a nice experience if not for that god-awful taste which lingered in my mouth well into the morning.

I eventually just smoked a few bowls and ate some cereal, assorted nuts, and some candy trying to get rid of the taste of the goo, but no matter what, I could still taste it. After two hours, I just laid down and slept off the rest of the trip. Had some crazy dreams but woke up feeling great, like better than I normally feel when waking up. The taste of the goo was still in my mouth, but gradually went away throughout the day.

I'm still feeling like I'm going to abstain from doing this again. I mean, if you have spent cakes, then you should also have mushrooms. And actual mushrooms are just a better way to go!


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Re: Ok I'm gonna try this out (Spent cake extraction) [Re: shamanamba]
    #15489074 - 12/09/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

what did it taste like?  :puke:


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