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pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction?
    #15444894 - 11/30/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I have recently started having sex with this girl whom i've been crazy about and attracted to for basically a few years... we finally hooked up


anyway, my sex life up until now has been basically one big 'dry spell' for the last 2.5 years since my last relationship, had a couple of hookups and there were no problems

having sex with this girl now, I find it hard to stop myself cumming (perhaps just because of extreme arousal from her..?) which of course is incredibly disappointing, embarassing and downright frustrating. I have recently started exercising the 'kegel' (?) but probably need a bit more work... I find it hard to find that 'tension' during sex with that particular muscle..

anyway, last night we started having sex, I came within 5 or so minutes and then for the rest of the night, on and off we kept trying, sometimes going for 10 minutes or so but then I would just lose my erection, we'd lie there and chat and we'd get horny again and go but i'd just keep losing it

this has happened a few times before as well where we would start having sex and I start just losing my erection... incredibly frustrating... she ends up just letting me go at her with her vibrator (at least we're honest and open.. have been friends for quite some years now)

anyway i am wondering if my use of pre-workout supplements (jack3d, mesomorph, yok3d mainly) would have anything to do with this? I tried putting it down to other reasons and couldn't find much, i quit smoking 7 months ago, i dont do that many drugs (rarely if ever) and i am a weekend drinker, and dont really even drink every weekend...

also any other suggestions to being able to maintain my erection..? I would like to try viagra or something but am also sceptical of relying on medication to have pleasant sex with someone whom i care deeply about :P

i am 24 years old, muscular build perhaps a little more body fat than i like but overall quite fit and healthy.

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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #15445052 - 11/30/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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I have recently started having sex with this girl whom i've been crazy about and attracted to for basically a few years... we finally hooked up


anyway, my sex life up until now has been basically one big 'dry spell' for the last 2.5 years since my last relationship, had a couple of hookups and there were no problems

having sex with this girl now, I find it hard to stop myself cumming (perhaps just because of extreme arousal from her..?) which of course is incredibly disappointing, embarassing and downright frustrating. I have recently started exercising the 'kegel' (?) but probably need a bit more work... I find it hard to find that 'tension' during sex with that particular muscle..

anyway, last night we started having sex, I came within 5 or so minutes and then for the rest of the night, on and off we kept trying, sometimes going for 10 minutes or so but then I would just lose my erection, we'd lie there and chat and we'd get horny again and go but i'd just keep losing it

this has happened a few times before as well where we would start having sex and I start just losing my erection... incredibly frustrating... she ends up just letting me go at her with her vibrator (at least we're honest and open.. have been friends for quite some years now)

anyway i am wondering if my use of pre-workout supplements (jack3d, mesomorph, yok3d mainly) would have anything to do with this? I tried putting it down to other reasons and couldn't find much, i quit smoking 7 months ago, i dont do that many drugs (rarely if ever) and i am a weekend drinker, and dont really even drink every weekend...

also any other suggestions to being able to maintain my erection..? I would like to try viagra or something but am also sceptical of relying on medication to have pleasant sex with someone whom i care deeply about :P

i am 24 years old, muscular build perhaps a little more body fat than i like but overall quite fit and healthy.





That shit started happening to me around your age. I am 26 now.

I saw a bunch of doctors and they all told me it was a mental thing.

And I believe it because I can get head without losing a boner. But sometimes my shit gets scared when I go to fuck a chick. I have no idea why.

Anyways..

Viagra does work very well. Except it costs about 20-25 dollars a pill without insurance. And you would be damn lucky if your insurance covered something like that.


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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: XUL]
    #15445081 - 11/30/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

yes I am also conscious that it could well just be a mental thing, lack of confidence or something... getting too stuck in my head perhaps... however I am really very sexually attracted to this girl..

I'm not too sure how to start on a clean slate with this one..? like i'll get ridiculously hard during foreplay then the underwear comes off and after a bit it just starts going soft...? wtf..

i think i have access to viagras from a friend... what do you mean about insurance..? the heart problems..?

also, read on a couple of other forums of certain supps causing impotence and sterility...?

also worried maybe i have damaged myself from years of pot abuse and mdma abuse in my teens and earlier 20's

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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #15445191 - 11/30/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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yes I am also conscious that it could well just be a mental thing, lack of confidence or something... getting too stuck in my head perhaps... however I am really very sexually attracted to this girl..

I'm not too sure how to start on a clean slate with this one..? like i'll get ridiculously hard during foreplay then the underwear comes off and after a bit it just starts going soft...? wtf..





I had the exact same thing. The girl I was with.. I was in deep deep depp love with her and she was everything I ever wanted physically. She was my dream girl. I too would get really fucking hard in foreplay but sometimes and only sometimes it would get soft as soon as I went to put on a condom. It was hard for me to understand. I still dont understand. I just deal with it as it comes and goes.

I think alot has to do with the amount of porn I watched and how much I jacked off in my life. I have read arguments that propose porn and masturbation rewires your brain to get off on strictly visual aspects of sex (which is why I think head always works for me). And also nobody knows how to pleasure yourself better than you do. And nothing is tighter than a fist.:lolsy:

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also worried maybe i have damaged myself from years of pot abuse and mdma abuse in my teens and earlier 20's





I saw a ... What is the word for the doctor who studies genitals? Anyways I saw the genital doctor and he told me that weed can be a cause in a very small population of people. He said that it can have an effect on your blood and therefore it does not flow as it should. "He told me to stop smoking pot for 8-12 months and see if I got better. Right around 7 months I started getting better.

Maybe he was just a quack. Either way, it worked.


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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #15445409 - 11/30/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i read the entire thread so i'm upto speed... i honestly can't comment on the supplements you use but there known drugs that can cause this... i said can, not definitely... years ago when i was in advanced school a friend of mine had issues too but he discovered that the average male cums within two-three minutes, which shocked me at the time because i can go 30 minutes easy, sometimes i don't cum at all so i'll fake it to please my lover... primarily pre-mature ejaculation is all psychological, anxiety, depression, shit like that... do you feel anxious when you're with her? another thing is there are possible physical causes too but i don't know what they are, you'd have to look that up...

paxil is killer for preventing climax, as a matter of fact i know for sure doctors are prescribing it for this condition under what is called "off label use"... when i was on that shit i NEVER reached climax... plus it's an ssri, they can come with so many other side effects it's crazy... causes suicidal ideation among many other things... i was on 60mg though which is maximum dosage, maybe it's effective at lower dosage for premature ejaculation... if you do use it pay attention to your body and mind... and as far as viagra goes, i only know one person who uses it and it works like a charm but so far it sent him to the hospital twice with a raging hardon... they warn you that if your erection last longer then a specific time seek medical attention... i don't know what that time limit is though... he could ball his wifes brains out for hours nonstop, she absolutely loved the shit... she had the nerve to tell my wife that i should get some... :smile: his was covered by his insurance but he had excellent insurance so this may vary...

if you feel any performance pressure, it's probably psychological... you have to reprogram that subconscious mind of yours if this is the case... if you're going limp, a buddy of mine used an herb called yohimbe because he continued to lose his erection and it worked like a charm... going limp is psychological too generally... if you try yohimbe and it works, PM to let me know, i'm interested in herb use in general...

i hope this works out for you

Kensho :psychsplit:

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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: cateyes]
    #15445438 - 11/30/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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i read the entire thread so i'm upto speed... i honestly can't comment on the supplements you use but there known drugs that can cause this... i said can, not definitely... years ago when i was in advanced school a friend of mine had issues too but he discovered that the average male cums within two-three minutes, which shocked me at the time because i can go 30 minutes easy, sometimes i don't cum at all so i'll fake it to please my lover... primarily pre-mature ejaculation is all psychological, anxiety, depression, shit like that... do you feel anxious when you're with her? another thing is there are possible physical causes too but i don't know what they are, you'd have to look that up...

paxil is killer for preventing climax, as a matter of fact i know for sure doctors are prescribing it for this condition under what is called "off label use"... when i was on that shit i NEVER reached climax... plus it's an ssri, they can come with so many other side effects it's crazy... causes suicidal ideation among many other things... i was on 60mg though which is maximum dosage, maybe it's effective at lower dosage for premature ejaculation... if you do use it pay attention to your body and mind... and as far as viagra goes, i only know one person who uses it and it works like a charm but so far it sent him to the hospital twice with a raging hardon... they warn you that if your erection last longer then a specific time seek medical attention... i don't know what that time limit is though... he could ball his wifes brains out for hours nonstop, she absolutely loved the shit... she had the nerve to tell my wife that i should get some... :smile: his was covered by his insurance but he had excellent insurance so this may vary...

if you feel any performance pressure, it's probably psychological... you have to reprogram that subconscious mind of yours if this is the case... if you're going limp, a buddy of mine used an herb called yohimbe because he continued to lose his erection and it worked like a charm... going limp is psychological too generally... if you try yohimbe and it works, PM to let me know, i'm interested in herb use in general...

i hope this works out for you

Kensho :psychsplit:




What does yohimbe do? Why does it help?


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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: XUL]
    #15445520 - 11/30/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I've never understood how you can just 'lose' a boner.  I do have the issue with pre-mature ejaculation sometimes, but my shit is ALWAYS hard as a fucking rock.  Doesn't matter what drugs I'm on, or how drunk I am, I can get hard in seconds flat, and it's not going anywhere till I'm done.

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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: XUL]
    #15445522 - 11/30/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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What does yohimbe do? Why does it help?




it's a get up stay up herb... to be honest, i don't know the mechanism on how it works, there's probably some information on the net... i think even GNC sells the shit... maybe it acts as a hormone booster because years ago some of the strength trainers and bodybuilders i'd talked to mentioned it... again, i'm sure that information is on the net... herbs can be very powerful... almost all the drugs that are prescribed are based off plant molecules... i'm sorry i couldn't provide definitive information...

Kensho :psychsplit:

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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #15445536 - 11/30/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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I've never understood how you can just 'lose' a boner.  I do have the issue with pre-mature ejaculation sometimes, but my shit is ALWAYS hard as a fucking rock.  Doesn't matter what drugs I'm on, or how drunk I am, I can get hard in seconds flat, and it's not going anywhere till I'm done.




I used to be like that too man.

Hopefully one day you dont get ED. At first it can take a shot to your self esteem. But in this day and age its not a big deal. There is Viagra and Cialis.

I remember the first time I took Viagra. My shit was fucking overly hard. I mean almost uncomfortably hard. But after the first use it just works like normal.


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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #15446270 - 11/30/11 05:49 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Stop. Ejaculating. So. Much.

problem solved. learn to have sex without that


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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: owls]
    #15446606 - 11/30/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Stop. Ejaculating. So. Much.

problem solved. learn to have sex without that




:awewtf:


You sick....


There is nothing better than cumming at the same time as a girl and looking into eachothers eyes.

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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: XUL]
    #15446936 - 11/30/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Stop. Ejaculating. So. Much.

problem solved. learn to have sex without that




:awewtf:


You sick....


There is nothing better than cumming at the same time as a girl and looking into eachothers eyes.

:aweshift:



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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: XUL]
    #15447155 - 11/30/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

hey so thanks for the tip

that was another thing i forgot to mention, seeing as there has been a large dry spill, of course i have been watching a lot of porn, namely anal porn (a fetish of mine)

I have watched a lot of porn and think it actually may have damaged me and particularly my last relationship... but I also read an article (she is studying a module at the moment called Love, Sex, and Death) that she gave me (coincidental, I promise) about how porn has damaged a lot of young males psychologically/sexually and one guy even said something that has happened to me "I simply can't have sex or get off without thinking about the last anal scene I saw in a porno"

I think I do need to try and stop watching porn altogether, I was exposed to it at a young age which I think has caused quite some dysfuntion but also at the same time perhaps I need to stop getting all up in my own grill about it and chill the fuck  out...?

My friend is sending me some viagra so I will see how that goes, also I will go in tomorrow and try find some of this yohimbe


thanks guys...

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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #15447213 - 11/30/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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hey so thanks for the tip

that was another thing i forgot to mention, seeing as there has been a large dry spill, of course i have been watching a lot of porn, namely anal porn (a fetish of mine)

I have watched a lot of porn and think it actually may have damaged me and particularly my last relationship... but I also read an article (she is studying a module at the moment called Love, Sex, and Death) that she gave me (coincidental, I promise) about how porn has damaged a lot of young males psychologically/sexually and one guy even said something that has happened to me "I simply can't have sex or get off without thinking about the last anal scene I saw in a porno"

I think I do need to try and stop watching porn altogether, I was exposed to it at a young age which I think has caused quite some dysfuntion but also at the same time perhaps I need to stop getting all up in my own grill about it and chill the fuck  out...?

My friend is sending me some viagra so I will see how that goes, also I will go in tomorrow and try find some of this yohimbe


thanks guys...





Indeed. Viagra will hold you over until you get through porn rehab. :smirk:

I too will face this challenge very soon. I fear that porn destroyed some of my libido too.

Somebody else on this website was telling me that after 6-8 months without porn and jacking off you will be ready to go.

Hell I tried to stop watching wacking it and watching porn for 2 weeks this summer and I just couldnt do it. I felt like I was going to start humping fence posts I was so desperate to get off. Eventually I am going to have to man up and try it to see what happens.


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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: XUL]
    #15447816 - 11/30/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

that's what im kinda concerned about... stop watching porn, fine.

but if i also stop masturbation, won't this just cause more of a 'build up' resulting in worse prem. ejac.?

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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #15447996 - 12/01/11 12:23 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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that's what im kinda concerned about... stop watching porn, fine.

but if i also stop masturbation, won't this just cause more of a 'build up' resulting in worse prem. ejac.?




I dont think premature ejac has to do with anything other than technique if you ask me.

I will just give you my experience..

I was with a nice chick for a while. At first when we fucked I got off really fast but as time went by I got 'back in shape'. As in I learned to fuck for longer without cumming by using technique..

This is what I always did... Everytime you are about to cum just slow down or even stop and pull out if you have to and eat her out for a while. Every time you are about to come keep slowing down and backing off a bit. When I do this I am able to go longer after each slow down.

Sometimes I do it so much that I cant even come and I have to take a 15 minute break to get back to homeostasis.


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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: XUL]
    #15448049 - 12/01/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

yeah thanks, I do know to slow down but you know, the heat of the moment kinda comes over and you'll hear her going "dont stop/dont slow down etc"

I did kind of tell her it had been a long time and will take me time to get back into shape, which i think just comes across as a lame excuse

i might try get into a doc as well see if i cant at least get something..

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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #15448096 - 12/01/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

man can I ever relate to alot of whats been said here, at some point some point or another in my life..

but to expand on the slow/stop method describe..

what i've found helpful too, is .. at the same point you would be inclined to stop.. when that hypersensitivity holy shit im about to cum, but fuck not yet damnit not yet!!! ill form a ring around the base of my dick with my thumb and middle finger and squeeze with eough pressure to halt ejaculation.. simultaneously, all motion must stop.. no one move!! :lol: and then wait for that im about to cum feeling to pass..takes a few seconds.. sometimes you'll have to, in  a sense, will the energy back in.. but once the moment passes.. you let go.. maybe take a second to recoup and are good to go.. this often buys me far more time then just stopping.. i mean sometimes that shit gets ridiculous stopping and goin every minute or 2..
anyways, i throw this in there incase it helps.. :peace::heart:

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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: XUL]
    #15448729 - 12/01/11 08:52 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Its a mental thing bro. Happens to the best of us :shrug: I went through it when i first started having sex back in high school :lol:

You grow out of it, or it at least goes away once your with a girl your comfortable with

(and dont use drugs to fix this problem)


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Re: pre-workout supps and erectile dysfunction? [Re: Almond Flour]
    #15449533 - 12/01/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

yes your sexual elitism is admirable :facepalm:

I am comfortable with her, I think it's just because i've been AWOL for so long, hopefully it'll come back

just disappointing to start a new sexual relationship and face these kinds of problems, particularly with someone you actually really like and are attracted to more than just sexually

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