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It kind of goes against the collective consiousness vibe

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Fuck the collective consciousness - what has it ever done for you?

Seriously, Mondays are great for tripping.  Uhm, and Tuesdays, Wednesdays. Sometimes Thursdays.  Definitely Fridays.  Never mind the weekend, which can also be great.  The rest of the days suck though.

No, lemon tek (or any sort of acid treatment - see the link in my sig to tea) doesn't change the available balance, but it will get the maximum amount of psilocin out of the shrooms.  Psilocybin is easily soluble, but it needs to take a pass through your liver to be dephosphorylated into psilocin before it becomes active.  That's why acid extraction tends to hit you faster and harder - it's the available psilocin being taken up rapidly.

But this only applies to mushrooms with a good psilocin content - like cubes - liberty caps are stronger in psilocybin, so it wouldn't matter much.  And the sludge isn't active anyway.  So it could have been whatever was in the libs, not the method.  Potency and actives vary, but y'all knew that.  

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But this only applies to mushrooms with a good psilocin content - like cubes - liberty caps are stronger in psilocybin, so it wouldn't matter much. 

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But this only applies to mushrooms with a good psilocin content - like cubes - liberty caps are stronger in psilocybin, so it wouldn't matter much. 

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Your backwards, What lemon tek does is turn Psilocybin into Psilocin, So the more Psilocybin that is in the mushroom the better Lemon tek is

And sludge definitely has a higher concentration of actives in it than the liquid, extractions never extract 100% of the active. throwing it away is a waste lol, unless your making the tea/tek in order to avoid the taste or nausea and not just trip harder.

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No, wrong everywhere. Psilocybin is readily soluble in neutral pH water, psilocin is not (see Gold on quantification of alkaloid content where he talks about psilocin extraction.) Normal tea will extract all the psilocybin.  Acidified tea will extract the psilocin rather than oxidize it.

"Lemon tek" converts nothing, "Psilocybin (O-phosphoryl-4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine or 4-PO-DMT) is a prodrug that is converted into the pharmacologically active compound psilocin in the body by a dephosphorylation reaction.[44] This chemical reaction takes place under strongly acidic conditions, or under physiological conditions in the body, through the action of enzymes called phosphatases...Psilocybin is metabolized mostly in the liver, where it becomes psilocin,..." Wikipedia.

Lemon juice has nothing on stomach acid, which is roughly the same pH as battery acid. But it's your liver that does the heavy lifting.  I ate libs and I made ordinary tea from them - no difference. Even for cubes a right-made tea wastes nothing - you can easily tell by trying the extract twice.  

Raise the dose and you trip both harder and longer - 6-8 hours cannot be wrong.

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Then what is Lemon Tek doing?

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Already explained this.

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