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Balthozar
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Purple Contamination?
#15367414 - 11/13/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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So my neighbors friends uncles brothers dog Scrappy just recently started a grow using Birdseed, Vermiculite, Brown Rice Flower, and Flax Seed Meal, he says it was pressure cooked for a little over an hour and a half, after he inoculated his jars, he put coffee filters over the top and kept them in a fairly air tight box, the only holes in the box had coffee filters over them. This is Scrappy's second attempt recently, his first attempt got contaminated with some good ol' fashioned green mold. His second attempt is covered with this purple stuff that he has never seen before, this isn't his first time trying to grow some good ol' shroomies, he has had a few successful grows before, but nothing wants to go right for him this time around. Could someone please identify this for him, i'll be sure to bark your replies through the fence at him so he does not make the same mistake 3 times in a row. He apoligizes for the low quality pictures, after all he is a dog, how good of a camera could a dog have??
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Guesstimate
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: Balthozar]
#15367449 - 11/13/11 11:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess thats no the color of the subrate which means this is a contam for sure
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Balthozar
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Okay, Scrappy figured as much, but could anyone identify the contam for him, and possibly the source of such said contam, he really would like to have a fun winter but with this being his second contaminated batch in a row, his spirit is down about the whole thing.
[EDIT] All 8 of his jars ended up like this too.
Edited by Balthozar (11/13/11 11:54 PM)
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Smokey-hitz
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: Balthozar]
#15368180 - 11/14/11 07:08 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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dump the birdseed and flax meal and just use brf and verm. use the search function on the site and search for pf tek. also did you order the syringe or make it your self?
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Balthozar
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Both times the spores have been ordered from http://www.sporefarmer.com/. We used PF Tek in our successful attempts, but with that recipe the jars colonize very very fast, but I would rather wait a little bit longer than have contams every time
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BothHands
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: Balthozar]
#15368824 - 11/14/11 11:30 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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In my experience, purple and pink are usually bacteria, but it could be a slime mold or something. It looks slimy. But so does bacteria.
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Edited by BothHands (11/14/11 11:51 AM)
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MrCubensis
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: BothHands]
#15368914 - 11/14/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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scrap the coffee filters and use tyvek, or order some filter disks from a shroomery sponsor (i use The Mad Season) and make some lids. they are easy to make http://themadseason.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=73&zenid=25brrdnc7gtmdidqkeg33fv6p1
This is the lids i use, except i use the above filter discs cut unto quarter sized circles. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10628004#10628004
and if your having trouble with the grain prep. i use this WBS tek. works great
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
its also nice to inoculate with a sponge over your needle soaked in alcohol. there are posts about it if you search. pretty self explanatory though.
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Balthozar
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: MrCubensis]
#15369202 - 11/14/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you guys so much, lots of help in these forums. Thank you MrCubensis, every one of those links proved to be extremely useful and informative. I see no reason for failure a third time now.
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MrCubensis
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: Balthozar]
#15372673 - 11/15/11 01:57 AM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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as long as you learn from your mistakes, and are able to pin point where you went wrong so you can improove the next time, you will be all good.
p.s. here is the mothership of good links. book mark it for sure.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11961453
good luck in the future, dont give up.
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acesshex1
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: MrCubensis]
#15374481 - 11/15/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have also ordered B+ and Z Strain from Sporefarmer, and both have given me the purple color as well. They are reshipping both to me.
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FALLEN REBEL
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: acesshex1]
#15381893 - 11/16/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 4 months ago) |
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WOW! me too small world. I also ordered the B+ and Z strain from sporefarmer, my 2 jars of Z took off and surpased the 10 jars that were B+. The 2 jars of Z strain turned purplish i thought that was strange because my enviroment during inoculation was super sterile in the bathroom with glove box everything sterile, flamed needle everytime wiped with alcohol, so ya bad z strain syringe. the B+ are still doing well in the incubator and are all around 40% mycelium growth. I don't see any contams in the B+ at all only the purple Z jars.
Edited by FALLEN REBEL (11/17/11 12:24 AM)
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acesshex1
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Most have been a bad Z Strain. That is funny that you purchased the same as me. I actually got them to reship the syringes, they are on their way. I told them they were not viable.
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nateg37
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: acesshex1]
#15473493 - 12/06/11 08:05 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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The same thing happened to me with the Z strain from sporefarmer.. all jars turned purple. It happened to me twice... 1st with 10 jars and now with about 20. Since I'm new at this I though I screwed up inoculating so I bought z's from them again and the same thing happened. I'm gonna see if I can get'em to re-issue syringes and state they're not viable but lesson learned... they're stuff is cheap but ya get what you pay for. Anybody have a favorite vendor they can turn me on to who is relatively inexpensive? I checked the preferred vendors section and they all seem pricey compared to sporefarmer but at this point... I'll pay the extra few bucks for a decent return on my investment. My lab recently shut down and left me outta work so I'm kinda pressed for cash.
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BothHands
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: nateg37]
#15473770 - 12/06/11 09:26 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, well, the syringes will be more expensive because they actually contain the spores of the mushroom you're trying to grow. After you've wasted 30 jars worth of BRF and verm, I think it's safe to say it's worked out to be more expensive.
sporefarmer is cheaper because they're selling you slime mold. Hopefully they haven't contaminated your whole house.
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nateg37
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: BothHands]
#15474017 - 12/06/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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So noted man... live and learn... and yeah.. hope the entire house isn't jacked up. Anybody on the vendor list more recommended than others or is it basically a preference thing? Time to get to work with iso and lysol...
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BothHands
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: nateg37]
#15474070 - 12/06/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, most of the vendors are preference, except for ralphsters. They provide syringes anonymously, so it's much safer. Takes longer to get your stuff, and it's more expensive, but it'll never be traced back to you. Otherwise, pick the one that's cheapest.
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nateg37
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: BothHands]
#15474214 - 12/06/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Gotcha - thanks for the heads up man.
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shaymisco
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Re: Purple Contamination? [Re: Balthozar]
#15522666 - 12/15/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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I had a successful grow from sporefarmer mexican strain, but I got the same purple contam from the Z strain I tried at the same time. weird
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SporeFarmer
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Re: Purple Contamination? *DELETED* [Re: shaymisco]
#15532111 - 12/17/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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acesshex1
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I got a reship and waiting to see if its good.
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