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 Penn State Molestation Scandal 
#15342225 - 11/08/11 09:06 PM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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Incredibly horrifying stuff coming out of Happy Valley. The Athletic Director and another high ranking university official has resigned, Jerry Sandusky's life is over, and Joe Paterno is expected out as early as this week.
And the man in question wasn't some bum quality control coach -- he was Penn State's defensive coordinator and at one time was expected to be Paterno's eventual successor.
8 victims are confirmed with more of course that haven't come forward are suspected.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Niffla]
#15342227 - 11/08/11 09:07 PM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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KNOWN TIMELINE
A chronological look at the case against former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, based on a grand jury report in Pennsylvania state court. Some key dates in Penn State football history are included. Sandusky has been charged with 40 criminal counts, accusing him of serial sex abuse of minors.
1969 — Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as a defensive line coach.
1977 — Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.
January 1983 — Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football's national champion for the 1982 season.
January 1987 — Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football's national champion for the 1986 season.
1994 — Boy known as Victim 7 in the report meets Sandusky through The Second Mile program at about the age of 10.
1994-95 — Boy known as Victim 6 meets Sandusky at a Second Mile picnic at Spring Creek Park when he is 7 or 8 years old.
1995-96 — Boy known as Victim 5, meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is 7 or 8, in second or third grade.
1996-97 — Boy known as Victim 4, at the age of 12 or 13, meets Sandusky while he is in his second year participating in The Second Mile program.
1996-98 — Victim 5 is taken to the locker rooms and showers at Penn State by Sandusky when he is 8 to 10 years old.
Jan. 1, 1998 — Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1998 Outback Bowl.
1998 — Victim 6 is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11 years old. When Victim 6 is dropped off at home, his hair is wet from showering with Sandusky. His mother reports the incident to the university police, who investigate.
Detective Ronald Schreffler testifies that he and State College Police Department Detective Ralph Ralston, with the consent of the mother of Victim 6, eavesdrop on two conversations the mother of Victim 6 has with Sandusky. Sandusky says he has showered with other boys and Victim 6's mother tries to make Sandusky promise never to shower with a boy again but he will not. At the end of the second conversation, after Sandusky is told he cannot see Victim 6 anymore, Schreffler testifies Sandusky says, "I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won't get it from you. I wish I were dead."
Jerry Lauro, an investigator with the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare, testifies he and Schreffler interviewed Sandusky, and that Sandusky admits showering naked with Victim 6, admits to hugging Victim 6 while in the shower and admits that it was wrong.
The case is closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decides there will be no criminal charge.
June 1999 — Sandusky retires from Penn State but still holds emeritus status.
Dec. 28, 1999 — Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1999 Alamo Bowl.
Summer 2000 — Boy known as Victim 3 meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is between seventh and eighth grade.
Fall 2000 — A janitor named James Calhoun observes Sandusky in the showers of the Lasch Football Building with a young boy, known as Victim 8, pinned up against the wall, performing oral sex on the boy. He tells other janitorial staff immediately. Fellow Office of Physical Plant employee Ronald Petrosky cleans the showers at Lasch and sees Sandusky and the boy, who he describes as being between the ages of 11 and 13.
Calhoun tells other physical plant employees what he saw, including Jay Witherite, his immediate supervisor. Witherite tells him to whom he should report the incident. Calhoun was a temporary employee and never makes a report. Victim 8's identity is unknown.
March 1, 2002 — A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room at the Lasch Football Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known as Victim 2, whose age he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his father immediately.
March 2, 2002 — In the morning, the graduate assistant calls Coach Joe Paterno and goes to Paterno's home, where he reports what he has seen.
March 3, 2002 — Paterno calls Tim Curley, Penn State Athletic Director to his home the next day and reports a version of what the grad assistant had said.
March 2002 — Later in the month the graduate assistant is called to a meeting with Curley and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business Gary Schultz. The grad assistant reports what he has seen and Curley and Schultz say they will look into it.
March 27, 2002 (approximate) — The graduate assistant hears from Curley. He is told that Sandusky's locker room keys are taken away and that the incident has been reported to The Second Mile. The graduate assistant is never questioned by university police and no other entity conducts an investigation until the graduate assistant testifies in Grand Jury in December 2010.
2005-2006 — Boy known as Victim 1 says that meets Sandusky through The Second Mile at age 11 or 12.
Spring 2007 — During the 2007 track season, Sandusky begins spending time with Victim 1 weekly, having him stay overnight at his residence in College Township, Pa.
Spring 2008 — Termination of contact with Victim 1 occurs when he is a freshman in a Clinton County high school. After the boy's mother calls the school to report sexual assault, Sandusky is barred from the school district attended by Victim 1 from that day forward and the matter is reported to authorities as mandated by law.
Early 2009 — An investigation by the Pennsylvania attorney general begins when a Clinton County, Pa. teen boy tells authorities that Sandusky has inappropriately touched him several times over a four-year period.
September 2010 — Sandusky retires from day-to-day involvement with The Second Mile, saying he wants to spend more time with family and handle personal matters.
Nov. 5, 2011 — Sandusky is arrested and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts.
Nov. 7, 2011 — Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly says Paterno is not a target of the investigation into how the school handled the accusations. But she refuses to say the same for university President Graham Spanier. Curley and Schultz, who have stepped down from their positions, surrender on charges that they failed to alert police to complaints against Sandusky.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Niffla]
#15342250 - 11/08/11 09:11 PM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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Media outside Paterno's home this morning.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Niffla]
#15342271 - 11/08/11 09:14 PM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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By the way, for those wondering, reason Joe Pa is under fire is because he was allegedly tipped off about Sandusky. Paterno fulfilled his legal obligation by reporting the incident to Penn State higher ups, but he's being reamed morally for not going to authorities or digging deeper into the accusations. Something like 5 kids got molested AFTER Paterno was tipped off.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Niffla]
#15342879 - 11/09/11 12:24 AM (6 months, 17 days ago) |
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Once you report it you've done your job. Unless you're a cop investigating a crime you don't go on a crusade to fuck over someone's life based on something someone tells you. It's not like he saw it himself. There's no reason for Paterno to be fired. He did what he was supposed to do.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#15344137 - 11/09/11 09:36 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Paterno talks to students through his living room window.
I think that everyone blaming Paterno is completely ridiculous. He was running a football program, not a police station. He reported it to who he was supposed to report it to and it was reported to the police. Is it his job to make sure the police are doing their job? The guy is really old and he has a million things to worry about at any given time. People are losing focus on who the real criminals are. 
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 Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: The_Aviator]
#15344685 - 11/09/11 11:52 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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They should keep Paterno as coach until he dies
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: The_Aviator]
#15344705 - 11/09/11 11:56 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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I agree to a point, but if you're a parent of one of the kids who got raped by Sandusky, would you feel the same way? Paterno is the most visible man on that campus by a million miles. IF (let me emphasize IF again) he knew, or had any inkling of an idea about Sandusky, then all this attention at his feet is justified, because he flat out could have prevented the other rapes.
But of course, it's not just him. It's any and everybody who had an idea who decided to turn their head the other way when it came to that scum bag Sandusky.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Niffla]
#15344717 - 11/09/11 11:58 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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BTW, the fallout continues. Now the PRESIDENT of the University will reportedly resign by day's end.
And Paterno announced that he will ride out the season and then retire at the end of the year.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Niffla]
#15344863 - 11/09/11 12:43 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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It is very strange to me how slowly the "wheels of justice" have turned on this matter. Especially considering that there were PARENTS who KNEW what was going on. I don't get that at all.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Senor_Doobie]
#15345256 - 11/09/11 02:18 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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^Exactly, I don't know why the parents aren't taking any heat.
The president, Graham Spanier, is actually a very nice and intelligent guy. He has done a lot of things to help the university and it seems like he genuinely cares about the students and the university. But unfortunately he did not handle this situation correctly and he is consequently losing his job.
Everything will work out and justice will be served by the end but a lot of damage has been done. Hopefully it does not affect the academic reputation of the university. Anyone who thinks that it should is stupid.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: The_Aviator] 2
#15345878 - 11/09/11 04:33 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Fuck all the officials involved. The coach, the athletic director, the Finance & Business VP, and anyone else who knew about a grown man assfucking a little boy and DIDNT tell the police.
And fuck you people who support them.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#15346041 - 11/09/11 05:01 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Quote:
TheFakeSunRa said:Unless you're a cop investigating a crime you don't go on a crusade to fuck over someone's life
I was particularly disturbed by this statement. Maybe it just came out wrong. But I think Sandusky fucked his own life over when he decided to make raping 9 year old boys his hobby.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Gairacita]
#15346341 - 11/09/11 05:48 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Quote:
Gairacita said:
They should keep Paterno as coach until he dies
Hes the only one with any credibility left at Penn State in my opinion
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Gairacita]
#15347113 - 11/09/11 08:08 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Paterno fired.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Niffla]
#15347119 - 11/09/11 08:09 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Chris Fowler (ESPN) reporting that students are gathering by the thousands on campus and on the verge of rioting
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Niffla]
#15347352 - 11/09/11 08:52 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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An idea of what the streets look like in Happy Valley right now.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Niffla]
#15347952 - 11/09/11 11:39 PM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Yep. They were spraying us for no reason. Instead of just taking care of the people that were causing damage. The board of trustees made a completely stupid and disrespectful decision. And that is what this was about. Yes, cars were flipped and windows were smashed. But that was a small percentage. The police were beating down on innocent people that were assembling.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: Niffla]
#15348318 - 11/10/11 02:39 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Quote:
Niffla said:
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TheFakeSunRa said:Unless you're a cop investigating a crime you don't go on a crusade to fuck over someone's life
I was particularly disturbed by this statement. Maybe it just came out wrong. But I think Sandusky fucked his own life over when he decided to make raping 9 year old boys his hobby.
But Paterno didn't know that as a fact all he knew was that someone said something.
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Re: Penn State Molestation Scandal [Re: meams]
#15348369 - 11/10/11 03:31 AM (6 months, 16 days ago) |
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Quote:
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Fuck all the officials involved. The coach, the athletic director, the Finance & Business VP, and anyone else who knew about a grown man assfucking a little boy and DIDNT tell the police.
And fuck you people who support them.
yeah, i'm with meams on this one. i'm sorry but the "chain of command" line doesn't work when the issue is 10 year old boys being fucked in a university locker room.
plus, more information is going to come out soon. and it's not going to look good for paterno or people who are apologizing for him right now.
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