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OfflineNardael
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Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! * 1
    #15269834 - 10/24/11 09:33 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Greetings from Hungary!

Me and my best friend recently tried out a JWH free incence called Mao Mix. There are three different types of this brand all of them named after a communist dictator.(How funny I live in a postcommunist country huh? It was imported from Latvia anyway, but the dictator theme kicked ass) Mao-blue-short term, Fidel-green-some people say its brutal, but I never tried it, Gorbachov-red- similar to fidel. Theese incenses were all JWH free so I think they probably contained the three types of AM, 1220, 2201 and 2233. Unfortunetly JWH will be banned in my country soon(we didn't like it too much anyway), so we are planning to switch to AM because it's effects kicked ass compared to JWH and 3 gramms of Mao lasted for more then 1 week, while we smoked 5-10 joints a day.

So my first and maybe the most important question would be: Wich type of AM should I choose? I found some info on this forum about 1220, but I couldn't compare it to the others without any info. I'm looking for the most potent one, because I could buy all of them around the same price/gramm, around 10 euros. But if I compare the prices it looks like 1220 isn't the best, because it's the cheapest. I'm willing to buy it from buy-jwh.com. However I have no idea if I can trust this site or not, if any of you knows a site that can be trusted I would be pleased if you would send a PM for me. ( I'm not really sure if I allowed to ask things like buying chemicals or not, if not I will edit my post)

Secondly an other important question, if I got the stuff how much AM should I add per 1 gramm of blend, or how much blend I need for 1 gramm of AM, tell me the way you like it. I would like to know some around or exact numbers, because I don't wanna waste any of the stuff.

Anotther question, can I dissolve it in alcochol then spray it on the blend like I saw in JWH incense videos, or there is an other method for AM?

I watched this video:



1.5g of JWH for 1 oz of blend seems to me not really potent incense, but I never did this, so who knows...

Here is the list of herbs I wanna put in the blend:

Passiflora incarnata - Passionflower 100g

Nymphaea caerula - Blue lotus 25g

Turnera diffusa - Damiana 50g

Artemisia absinthium - Wormwood 50g

Salvia divinorum and Leonotis leonorus - Wild Dagga are still on my list, but Im not sure if I can afford them at the moment but I will add them later. If you have any tips about that in what ratio should I mix theese herbs I would be glad for that too.

I think that's all for now, I add other stuff if it comes to my mind. Thanks for all the help.

Nardael


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Nardael] * 1
    #15269846 - 10/24/11 09:39 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Here comes an other question, if you have any ideas how to add a good flavor to the blend I would say thank you a thousand times.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Nardael] * 1
    #15270249 - 10/24/11 11:47 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I was wanting to know the same thing, man. I've been looking for a reliable jwh source for a long time. My friend made some homemade incense the other day, and it was better than marijuana IMO. We smoked a bowl out of a pipe, and couldn't figure out how to open the back door. He used JWH-203 though


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Nardael] * 1
    #15270478 - 10/24/11 12:44 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Alcohol works, but it takes a while to evaporate.

Acetone is preferable. Because you can evaporate it in less than an hour. And because the smell is very pungent, so it's easy to tell if it hasn't all evaporated.

Just take whatever leaf you want to infuse...
Soak in a small amount of acetone...
Add desired amount of synthetic cannabinoid powder...
Stir to evenly distribute the powder through the leaf...
Let it dry 30+ minutes. (The nose should not be able to smell ANY acetone.)

You could also prepare a spray bottle. (And use it to evenly distribute the powder.)
Just add acetone and powder to the spray bottle.

As for flavoring, the leaves with which you make the incense will have some flavoring to them.
You can use Strawberry leaf for example. Tastes like strawberry.
There's also Wintergreen leaf and Red Raspberry leaf, but I've never tasted those.

As for how potent to make your blend, that's up to you and your tolerance.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Mansonman420] * 1
    #15270557 - 10/24/11 01:07 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Well, buy-jwh.com seems to me quiet trustable. At least their website is worked out, and they have delivery to most parts of the world. In google they are in the top sites, so I think I will give it a try, but it would be still good to get some info about the potency of AM's compared to each other. If you only smoked JWH so far I recommend you tryng out AM, JWH caused headaches for me most of the time. In the first few weeks it was okay it's not the same as pot but it still gets you high. Then after a while I began to feel really sick after from using it. I didn't sleep well and so on. The sleeping problems and headache can occur with AM too, if you are a heavy user. We smoked at least 5 joint each day and there was like no top of it. Then comes a 10+ hours kinda dreamless sleeping period.(this is what's freaking me out about the syntchetic stuff, I have no dreams :S) AM can cause very heavy waves in an LSA trip, we smoked a joint every 30-45 minutes, and it was really brutal, I liked it much more then LSD I ate at O.Z.O.R.A. My not so experienced friend got panic several times, he was really fighting against the trip. We ate 4.5 hawaian fractal seeds each, then smoked until it began to take an effect. My friend vomitted several times. i'm willing to try this again with a more potent blend, and around 7-10 fractal seeds and better music setting. We listened to Aphex Twin most of the time, it gave me nice visuals.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Nardael] * 1
    #15270575 - 10/24/11 01:12 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

That is interesting, brother. I have 1500 morning glory seeds on the way, and 50 HBW seeds too. I'll ask my friend that is going to trip with me if he wants to smoke a few bowls of his homemade incense, whilst tripping. His is composed of 4 grams of JWH-203, 20 grams of Wild Dagga, 4 grams of Blue Lotus, and like 5 or so grams of salvia.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: ifoundwaldo] * 1
    #15270628 - 10/24/11 01:26 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I think I will use acetone, because it's much easier to get it in my country than clear alcochol. You can't buys ether on anything like that, that's what blocked me in doing some extraction fun. :frown: Knowing that what amount of AM people put in their blends would be good to know what's the avarege. I read that "LongStrangeTrip" put 775mg of AM-2201 into 1 ounce of blend and it rocks. I'm thinking of putting 1g/1oz. And about the flaver I thought of adding some catmint (Nepeta cataria) to the blend, because it has some light effects, and tastes like lemon, at least I read this. In the embedded video, the guy adds peppermint to the blend, if I remember right.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Nardael] * 1
    #15270652 - 10/24/11 01:34 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I don't really like mint flavored smokes. I'm going to put in some strawberry leaf, as stated above:grin: As soon as my paycheck comes in, I'm getting started on my blend, my only problem is, I don't know of a very good site that sells some of these ethnos:rolleyes:


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Mansonman420] * 1
    #15270662 - 10/24/11 01:37 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I would highly recommend you, to extract the LSA from morning glory seeds, it caused a really bad trip for me when I first tried it out(no morning glory seeds since then) The trip from HBW was much better for me. If you buy regular HBW seeds you gotta eat some of them, but they wont make you vomit so much like MGS. If you wanna eat the seeds I recommend you getting "fractal" HBW seeds. 5 of them costs exactly 10 bucks here, they won't rip you out from this dimension but its a really cool trip. It's in the same price wit 15 regular seeds. But I would use regular seeds only for extraction.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Mansonman420] * 1
    #15270694 - 10/24/11 01:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

In Hungary you can buy this things in the local headshops, for a low price. The list I wrote in my first post gives 225g of blend if I remember right. It would cost less then 30 dollars. I should add Wild Dagga too, because it could be more potent than the rest somehow. I think this because the demand for it is pretty high here, it's always on low stack. In my opinion salvia dosen't taste too good(it's horrible). If you can afford it add some extract instead, it will sure have some effects. You should look for a shop like this in your own country: http://www.gomoa.net/

I was really surprised that this site is selling yage too, I wanna try it out since reading Naked Lunch, so it's on my list after eating 10 fractal HBW seeds. I will be prepared then.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Nardael] * 1
    #15270727 - 10/24/11 01:53 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Ah yea, 2 of my friends got poisoned by morning glory, that stuff is full of cyanide.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Nardael] * 1
    #15270744 - 10/24/11 01:59 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Personally, I would aim to make your blend 1-2 hit quitter stuff. (Just a hit or two from your pipe.)

So, take whatever you would normally smoke to get high, and make it so that there's that much powder in 0.1-0.2g of leaf.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Nardael] * 1
    #15271031 - 10/24/11 02:57 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

AM2201 is the daddy.  Its hella potent.

I'd advise 60g plant to 1g AM2201 for some strong shiz.


AM2233 has a really nice high to it but its less potent you'd need about 25g plant to 1g with that for a strong blend.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: nice1] * 1
    #15271063 - 10/24/11 03:04 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Well, I'm planning to buy 1 gram of 1220 and 2233 to try them out. And gonna buy 3 gramms of 2201. Thats the info I was looking for. Thanks!


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Nardael] * 1
    #15271101 - 10/24/11 03:12 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Uhmm, someone tried AM-694 already?


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Nardael] * 1
    #15271164 - 10/24/11 03:23 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

Wild dagga is a pretty gash base herb


Damiana and marshmallow leaf is good :thumbup:


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: nice1] * 1
    #15271252 - 10/24/11 03:44 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

What do you mean by gash base? Sorry I don't get it. English isn't my native language, I can't figure it out what gash base means.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: Nardael] * 1
    #15271268 - 10/24/11 03:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:  It tastes horrible when you smoke it :wink:


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: nice1] * 1
    #15273709 - 10/24/11 11:25 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

how does one get into the herbal incense game? is it easy to sell your blends to headshops, shady gas stations ect, or do they mostly make their own blends or buy from wholesale suppliers who have the market cornered?

i would love to try to create my own incense blend to sell locally but i don't know much about marketing these products.


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Re: Making AM-1220/2201/2233 herbal incense. Need some tips from homemade incense veterans! [Re: LeeHarvOz] * 1
    #15274864 - 10/25/11 07:42 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

It depends on what you sell, where you live, what the local shops are selling. If you could give more info about theese stuff it would be good. It depends on you countrys drug policy too. From your signature it seems you are from US... Drug policy is kinda heavy there depending on wich state you live in. If AM is'nt banned there you may success.


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