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 Ron Paul 2012 
#15259909 - 10/22/11 02:35 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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What do you guys think about him?
I would vote for him because he wants to legalize pot.
the downside is his age..
give me some thoughts, an opinons about this mater an
why he should be president
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I would vote him over any other candidate running, but he won't make it past the primaries. His views are too radical for most Americans, even though I feel he would be the best option, especially when it comes to ending the war on drugs. Funny how something that would help dramatically help America is opposed by the majority of people it would help :/
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 Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Oohway]
#15261714 - 10/22/11 03:01 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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He couldn't end the war on drugs. Congress can't end the war on drugs. Almost every drug bust is a state issue.
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Are you fucking joking man? Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug by federal law so yes changing this schedule 1 bullshit would make a huge difference and free the states to lax their laws. Also you're way off base saying most busts are local, it's true with posession but bigger busts are always dea. Just look at the fucking front page of shroomery. It's always the Feds looking for shit.
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the downside is his age..
lol, why is that a downside? 
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Poid]
#15261813 - 10/22/11 03:32 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Poid said:
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the downside is his age..
lol, why is that a downside?
Reagan had Alzheimers. Why would you risk some one going senile? Older people obviously have more life experience but can't be trusted to be even keeled physically or mentally. Imagine if John McCain was our president, he thinks he can create billions of jobs.
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zappaisgod
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skatealex2 said:
Are you fucking joking man? Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug by federal law so yes changing this schedule 1 bullshit would make a huge difference and free the states to lax their laws. Also you're way off base saying most busts are local, it's true with posession but bigger busts are always dea. Just look at the fucking front page of shroomery. It's always the Feds looking for shit.
You are dead fucking wrong. Most drug prosecutions are state. And it doesn't make any fucking difference what schedule the DEA gives it. The states can still do what they want.
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Ron Paul should have been aborted.
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zappaisgod
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skatealex2 said:
Are you fucking joking man? Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug by federal law so yes changing this schedule 1 bullshit would make a huge difference and free the states to lax their laws. Also you're way off base saying most busts are local, it's true with posession but bigger busts are always dea. Just look at the fucking front page of shroomery. It's always the Feds looking for shit.
You are dead fucking wrong. Most drug prosecutions are state. And it doesn't make any fucking difference what schedule the DEA gives it. The states can still do what they want.
Right so the DEA never interfers with state drug laws.
Where did I say all drug prosecutions were state? Are you well?Quote:
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111021/NEWS/110210327
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://www.oregonlive.com/clark-county/index.ssf/2011/10/twelve_arrested_after_massive.html
CLARK-SKAMANIA DRUG TASK FORCE NOT DEA
http://www.news10.net/news/article/159294/2/Feds-raid-first-two-Valley-marijuana-dispensaries
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://www.ktvl.com/articles/marijuana-1202136-ore-agents.html
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/nine-arrested-in-two-marijuana-plant-raids/article_d2ac243e-f6a9-11e0-b10c-001cc4c03286.html
NAPA SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS, NOT DEA
http://www.google.com/url?url=http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/10/marijuana_raid_cherry_top_farms_2500_plants.php&rct=j&sa=X&ei=GB2jTs2lMYbs0gHFhsXkBA&ved=0CIoBEPgLKAAwCQ&q=marijuana raids&usg=AFQjCNFDoZ92b4rFNFXK75k9LspK0_LrwQ
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
All these links are just from the past few days and month at most.
Are you so completely out of touch that you think most drug busts are over medical marijuana? RU Serius?
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zappaisgod said:
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skatealex2 said:
Are you fucking joking man? Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug by federal law so yes changing this schedule 1 bullshit would make a huge difference and free the states to lax their laws. Also you're way off base saying most busts are local, it's true with posession but bigger busts are always dea. Just look at the fucking front page of shroomery. It's always the Feds looking for shit.
You are dead fucking wrong. Most drug prosecutions are state. And it doesn't make any fucking difference what schedule the DEA gives it. The states can still do what they want.
Right so the DEA never interfers with state drug laws.
Where did I say all drug prosecutions were state? Are you well?Quote:
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111021/NEWS/110210327
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://www.oregonlive.com/clark-county/index.ssf/2011/10/twelve_arrested_after_massive.html
CLARK-SKAMANIA DRUG TASK FORCE NOT DEA
http://www.news10.net/news/article/159294/2/Feds-raid-first-two-Valley-marijuana-dispensaries
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://www.ktvl.com/articles/marijuana-1202136-ore-agents.html
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/nine-arrested-in-two-marijuana-plant-raids/article_d2ac243e-f6a9-11e0-b10c-001cc4c03286.html
NAPA SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS, NOT DEA
http://www.google.com/url?url=http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/10/marijuana_raid_cherry_top_farms_2500_plants.php&rct=j&sa=X&ei=GB2jTs2lMYbs0gHFhsXkBA&ved=0CIoBEPgLKAAwCQ&q=marijuana raids&usg=AFQjCNFDoZ92b4rFNFXK75k9LspK0_LrwQ
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
All these links are just from the past few days and month at most.
Are you so completely out of touch that you think most drug busts are over medical marijuana? RU Serius?
No but I don't understand why you would defend the dea in anyway. Obviously the government threatening to go after your state may be intimidating for law makers. Also the schedule 1 does local busts cause if you're caught it's marijuana it can go on your permanent record and even get throw into jail. I just think dea keeping it schedule 1 is not good and affects the states negatively cause the court systems can use it to make marijuana charges way harsher than they should be by any measure.
Now not all busts are medical marijuana but obviously government goes after it cause it's big money. All I'm saying is no one in the right mind should support the drug war in anyway and Ron Paul as president even if he can just shut down the DEA and put marijuana as schedule 2 or 3 drug would make a huge difference in the drug war.
Marijuana is the number 1 trick of the drug war. All you need is a dog and you can find marijuana anywhere and bust people. 
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I am not defending the DEA or the drug war in any way at all. I'm merely pointing out that L. Ron cannot deliver what you say he can. You have to convince the people.
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I hear. I don't think it would be hard to convince the people though.
If Ron Paul can get appluase at a Fox debate saying he supports legalizing heroin I don't think it would be so hard to get the people to back up a change in current drug laws. The facts are all in favor of change.
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the downside is his age..
lol, why is that a downside?
Reagan had Alzheimers. Why would you risk some one going senile? Older people obviously have more life experience but can't be trusted to be even keeled physically or mentally. Imagine if John McCain was our president, he thinks he can create billions of jobs.
He exercises daily and claims to be in very good health. He's only 72 anyways lol. My grandfather is 84 and has smoked for 60 years, he still debates politics with me and walks his dog afterwards.
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Ron Paul should have been aborted.
Your mother should abort you right now.
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If you want any hope for sensible drug law reform, Ron Paul is the only currently viable candidate you should vote for in the primary. Don't underestimate Paul, he has a strong grassroots movement behind him.
Swallow your pride and register as a Republican so you can participate in the primaries. Getting a nomination is only the first step, but the most critical one.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Noob452]
#15268974 - 10/24/11 02:13 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I thought he would draw more attention from the shroomery for that reason. If he had his way, we wouldn't have to hide our identity to use this site. End of story.
Even if he doesn't get the republican nomination(though I hope he does and will be voting for him in the primary), I still feel there's a decent chance he would win as a libertarian.
2012 is supposed to be "the turning of ages" or whatever, imo that turning will be to a third party, allowing the most porweful nation on earth to be restored to its devine roots.. or the end of the world, we'll see.
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I highly doubt we will see the fall of the 2 party system or of either party this election or within 15 years from now, the best thing we can do is support him in the primary because is running as a Republican, not Libertarian.
Here's how you can support him:
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#15269411 - 10/24/11 04:56 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I can support him any way I'd like, thankyou.
Yes, we should support him in the primaries, but in the very real possibility that he does not get the nomination, he will be running as a libertarian, in which we should also support him.
The only way Ron Paul will become president is through the attitude of his supporters. You can't expect the masses of ignorant voters to suddenly spark an interest in politics and educate themselves on the issues and candidates, so we must spark that interest for them through our passion and pride.
You want to make a real difference Occupy Wallstreet? Put this on your sign..
Ron Paul 2012
Oh, and stop asking for $20 minimum wage. Fucking morons.
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dtowntoker
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I can support him any way I'd like, thankyou.
Yes, we should support him in the primaries, but in the very real possibility that he does not get the nomination, he will be running as a libertarian, in which we should also support him.
The only way Ron Paul will become president is through the attitude of his supporters. You can't expect the masses of ignorant voters to suddenly spark an interest in politics and educate themselves on the issues and candidates, so we must spark that interest for them through our passion and pride.
You want to make a real difference Occupy Wallstreet? Put this on your sign..
Ron Paul 2012
Oh, and stop asking for $20 minimum wage. Fucking morons.
Ron Paul won't run as a libertarian. Fighting to get Ron Paul the Republican nomination will secure four more years for Obama. Hate to break it to you, but Ron Paul will never and should never be president.
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