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What do you guys think about him?
I would vote for him because he wants to legalize pot.
the downside is his age..
give me some thoughts, an opinons about this mater an
why he should be president
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I would vote him over any other candidate running, but he won't make it past the primaries. His views are too radical for most Americans, even though I feel he would be the best option, especially when it comes to ending the war on drugs. Funny how something that would help dramatically help America is opposed by the majority of people it would help :/
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He couldn't end the war on drugs. Congress can't end the war on drugs. Almost every drug bust is a state issue.
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Are you fucking joking man? Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug by federal law so yes changing this schedule 1 bullshit would make a huge difference and free the states to lax their laws. Also you're way off base saying most busts are local, it's true with posession but bigger busts are always dea. Just look at the fucking front page of shroomery. It's always the Feds looking for shit.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Poid]
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the downside is his age..
lol, why is that a downside?
Reagan had Alzheimers. Why would you risk some one going senile? Older people obviously have more life experience but can't be trusted to be even keeled physically or mentally. Imagine if John McCain was our president, he thinks he can create billions of jobs.
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Are you fucking joking man? Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug by federal law so yes changing this schedule 1 bullshit would make a huge difference and free the states to lax their laws. Also you're way off base saying most busts are local, it's true with posession but bigger busts are always dea. Just look at the fucking front page of shroomery. It's always the Feds looking for shit.
You are dead fucking wrong. Most drug prosecutions are state. And it doesn't make any fucking difference what schedule the DEA gives it. The states can still do what they want.
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Ron Paul should have been aborted.
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Are you fucking joking man? Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug by federal law so yes changing this schedule 1 bullshit would make a huge difference and free the states to lax their laws. Also you're way off base saying most busts are local, it's true with posession but bigger busts are always dea. Just look at the fucking front page of shroomery. It's always the Feds looking for shit.
You are dead fucking wrong. Most drug prosecutions are state. And it doesn't make any fucking difference what schedule the DEA gives it. The states can still do what they want.
Right so the DEA never interfers with state drug laws.
Where did I say all drug prosecutions were state? Are you well?Quote:
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111021/NEWS/110210327
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://www.oregonlive.com/clark-county/index.ssf/2011/10/twelve_arrested_after_massive.html
CLARK-SKAMANIA DRUG TASK FORCE NOT DEA
http://www.news10.net/news/article/159294/2/Feds-raid-first-two-Valley-marijuana-dispensaries
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://www.ktvl.com/articles/marijuana-1202136-ore-agents.html
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/nine-arrested-in-two-marijuana-plant-raids/article_d2ac243e-f6a9-11e0-b10c-001cc4c03286.html
NAPA SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS, NOT DEA
http://www.google.com/url?url=http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/10/marijuana_raid_cherry_top_farms_2500_plants.php&rct=j&sa=X&ei=GB2jTs2lMYbs0gHFhsXkBA&ved=0CIoBEPgLKAAwCQ&q=marijuana raids&usg=AFQjCNFDoZ92b4rFNFXK75k9LspK0_LrwQ
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
All these links are just from the past few days and month at most.
Are you so completely out of touch that you think most drug busts are over medical marijuana? RU Serius?
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Are you fucking joking man? Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug by federal law so yes changing this schedule 1 bullshit would make a huge difference and free the states to lax their laws. Also you're way off base saying most busts are local, it's true with posession but bigger busts are always dea. Just look at the fucking front page of shroomery. It's always the Feds looking for shit.
You are dead fucking wrong. Most drug prosecutions are state. And it doesn't make any fucking difference what schedule the DEA gives it. The states can still do what they want.
Right so the DEA never interfers with state drug laws.
Where did I say all drug prosecutions were state? Are you well?Quote:
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111021/NEWS/110210327
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://www.oregonlive.com/clark-county/index.ssf/2011/10/twelve_arrested_after_massive.html
CLARK-SKAMANIA DRUG TASK FORCE NOT DEA
http://www.news10.net/news/article/159294/2/Feds-raid-first-two-Valley-marijuana-dispensaries
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://www.ktvl.com/articles/marijuana-1202136-ore-agents.html
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/nine-arrested-in-two-marijuana-plant-raids/article_d2ac243e-f6a9-11e0-b10c-001cc4c03286.html
NAPA SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS, NOT DEA
http://www.google.com/url?url=http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/10/marijuana_raid_cherry_top_farms_2500_plants.php&rct=j&sa=X&ei=GB2jTs2lMYbs0gHFhsXkBA&ved=0CIoBEPgLKAAwCQ&q=marijuana raids&usg=AFQjCNFDoZ92b4rFNFXK75k9LspK0_LrwQ
MEDICAL MARIJUANA
All these links are just from the past few days and month at most.
Are you so completely out of touch that you think most drug busts are over medical marijuana? RU Serius?
No but I don't understand why you would defend the dea in anyway. Obviously the government threatening to go after your state may be intimidating for law makers. Also the schedule 1 does local busts cause if you're caught it's marijuana it can go on your permanent record and even get throw into jail. I just think dea keeping it schedule 1 is not good and affects the states negatively cause the court systems can use it to make marijuana charges way harsher than they should be by any measure.
Now not all busts are medical marijuana but obviously government goes after it cause it's big money. All I'm saying is no one in the right mind should support the drug war in anyway and Ron Paul as president even if he can just shut down the DEA and put marijuana as schedule 2 or 3 drug would make a huge difference in the drug war.
Marijuana is the number 1 trick of the drug war. All you need is a dog and you can find marijuana anywhere and bust people. 
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I am not defending the DEA or the drug war in any way at all. I'm merely pointing out that L. Ron cannot deliver what you say he can. You have to convince the people.
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I hear. I don't think it would be hard to convince the people though.
If Ron Paul can get appluase at a Fox debate saying he supports legalizing heroin I don't think it would be so hard to get the people to back up a change in current drug laws. The facts are all in favor of change.
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the downside is his age..
lol, why is that a downside?
Reagan had Alzheimers. Why would you risk some one going senile? Older people obviously have more life experience but can't be trusted to be even keeled physically or mentally. Imagine if John McCain was our president, he thinks he can create billions of jobs.
He exercises daily and claims to be in very good health. He's only 72 anyways lol. My grandfather is 84 and has smoked for 60 years, he still debates politics with me and walks his dog afterwards.
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Ron Paul should have been aborted.
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If you want any hope for sensible drug law reform, Ron Paul is the only currently viable candidate you should vote for in the primary. Don't underestimate Paul, he has a strong grassroots movement behind him.
Swallow your pride and register as a Republican so you can participate in the primaries. Getting a nomination is only the first step, but the most critical one.
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I thought he would draw more attention from the shroomery for that reason. If he had his way, we wouldn't have to hide our identity to use this site. End of story.
Even if he doesn't get the republican nomination(though I hope he does and will be voting for him in the primary), I still feel there's a decent chance he would win as a libertarian.
2012 is supposed to be "the turning of ages" or whatever, imo that turning will be to a third party, allowing the most porweful nation on earth to be restored to its devine roots.. or the end of the world, we'll see.
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I highly doubt we will see the fall of the 2 party system or of either party this election or within 15 years from now, the best thing we can do is support him in the primary because is running as a Republican, not Libertarian.
Here's how you can support him:
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I can support him any way I'd like, thankyou.
Yes, we should support him in the primaries, but in the very real possibility that he does not get the nomination, he will be running as a libertarian, in which we should also support him.
The only way Ron Paul will become president is through the attitude of his supporters. You can't expect the masses of ignorant voters to suddenly spark an interest in politics and educate themselves on the issues and candidates, so we must spark that interest for them through our passion and pride.
You want to make a real difference Occupy Wallstreet? Put this on your sign..
Ron Paul 2012
Oh, and stop asking for $20 minimum wage. Fucking morons.
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I can support him any way I'd like, thankyou.
Yes, we should support him in the primaries, but in the very real possibility that he does not get the nomination, he will be running as a libertarian, in which we should also support him.
The only way Ron Paul will become president is through the attitude of his supporters. You can't expect the masses of ignorant voters to suddenly spark an interest in politics and educate themselves on the issues and candidates, so we must spark that interest for them through our passion and pride.
You want to make a real difference Occupy Wallstreet? Put this on your sign..
Ron Paul 2012
Oh, and stop asking for $20 minimum wage. Fucking morons.
Ron Paul won't run as a libertarian. Fighting to get Ron Paul the Republican nomination will secure four more years for Obama. Hate to break it to you, but Ron Paul will never and should never be president.
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Ron Paul won't run as a libertarian. Fighting to get Ron Paul the Republican nomination will secure four more years for Obama. Hate to break it to you, but Ron Paul will never and should never be president.
He would most certainly run as a libertarian if he does not recieve the Republican nomination, and recent polls have shown Obama vs. Paul at 42% vs. 41%, hardly what I'd call a sure thing for Obama. (More polls showing Paul vs Obama)
So.. why should Ron Paul never be president?
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http://situationroom.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/24/blitzers-blog-will-ron-paul-run-as-3rd-party-candidate/?hpt=sr_mid
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Hmm.. maybe he's saying that to promote support for the republican nomination, but that is still disheartening. I had always just assumed he had plans to run as a third party candidate. He didn't say that he absolutely would not though, so there is still a chance he would.
Anyways, why do you think he should not be president?
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Truth is Wolf Blitzers an asshole. He's just trying to delegitimize Ron Paul's candidacy. I think Ron Paul along with the campaign is just trying to throw all their energy into winning the republican nomination cause they know third party never wins presidency at least nowdays.
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He would most certainly run as a libertarian if he does not recieve the Republican nomination
Hard to imagine. It's actually a political party with it's own candidates. By the time they will decide their candidate for the election, I'm pretty sure it'll be too late for Ron Paul to join them. Not to mention he didn't do it last time around either.
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Hmm.. maybe he's saying that to promote support for the republican nomination, but that is still disheartening. I had always just assumed he had plans to run as a third party candidate. He didn't say that he absolutely would not though, so there is still a chance he would.
Anyways, why do you think he should not be president?
Because he is a social conservative wrapped up in a Libertarian blanket.
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Hmm.. maybe he's saying that to promote support for the republican nomination, but that is still disheartening. I had always just assumed he had plans to run as a third party candidate. He didn't say that he absolutely would not though, so there is still a chance he would.
Anyways, why do you think he should not be president?
Because he is a social conservative wrapped up in a Libertarian blanket.
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Because he is a social conservative wrapped up in a Libertarian blanket.
So? These labels do nothing to discredit the man or, more importantly, his ideas.
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Because he is a social conservative wrapped up in a Libertarian blanket.
So? These labels do nothing to discredit the man or, more importantly, his ideas.
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Truth is Wolf Blitzers an asshole. He's just trying to delegitimize Ron Paul's candidacy. I think Ron Paul along with the campaign is just trying to throw all their energy into winning the republican nomination cause they know third party never wins presidency at least nowdays.
He definitely has the best chance for election with the Republican party, but I'm seriously concerned about his chances of recieving the nomination due to the dates of the primary. Usually the only ones who are on the ball and are prepared to vote in these are political activists or older citizens, the far majority being in the latter.
I've also noticed that nearly all older folk are always automatically turned off to Ron Paul, too stubborn to even listen to the reasoning behind his supposed maddness. I believe this to be a result of him being labeled a fringe candidate(labels can do soo much harm to an idealist) for so many years, or because the older generations have simply gotten used to the status quo of large, power hungry government, while never having experienced anything close to a constitution abiding government. It would probably take a miracle for their conditioned minds to suddenly be open to the idea of a radical change, but I'm hoping for just that.
Polygraphs being mandated during presidential debates, that would probably do it lol.Quote:
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Because he is a social conservative wrapped up in a Libertarian blanket.
So? These labels do nothing to discredit the man or, more importantly, his ideas.
Maybe for you.
For everyone but you. They don't mean much other than the meaning you give them. I see those labels as positive, especially the Libertarian blanket. Sounds amazing lol.
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Truth is Wolf Blitzers an asshole. He's just trying to delegitimize Ron Paul's candidacy. I think Ron Paul along with the campaign is just trying to throw all their energy into winning the republican nomination cause they know third party never wins presidency at least nowdays.
He definitely has the best chance for election with the Republican party,
L. Ron has no chance of winning either the nomination or the general election. None.
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Every candidate has a chance of election, even Bachman. I'll admit the probabilities are currently stacked against him, but you never know how the cards will play.
And I meant he has the best chance of winning the general election with the Republican party, instead of a third party.
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He has no chance of winning either. He's a fucking nut.
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Bachman is a women, and I don't know who L. Ron is, we are talking about Ron Paul here.
Do you just discount every politician and label them as a nut? Or do you actually have an opinion about the specific candidates and their positions? It appears to be the former..
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Bachman is a women, and I don't know who L. Ron is, we are talking about Ron Paul here.
Do you just discount every politician and label them as a nut? Or do you actually have an opinion about the specific candidates and their positions? It appears to be the former..
Anybody who has paid attention to me knows that I have examined the jerk-off extensively, specifically eviscerated his idiocy at all turns, and have done so for several years. Bachman has nothing to do with anything. I call him L. Ron because his supporters here are a mind numbed zombie army and suck his cock because of what they think he will do about drug laws, which he couldn't fucking do anyway. He is a douche and he has no shot and I am eagerly awaiting the day he rides off into the sunset forever so I will not have to joust with his increasingly moronic supporters.
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Considering I haven't paid attention to you, are there any specific positions you care to discredit? You came in here starting shit, so back it up.
Also, I wasn't aware of his position on the drug war until after I had found merit with his stance on foreign policy, health care reform, national security, tax reform, and govt. overspending and his plan to reduce it. I support Ron Paul for simple reasons, his ideas and actions, and what they could do for our potentially great nation. I'm not one of the mind numb zombies, and I have taken a critical view of Paul before deciding to pledge my support.
You are just making general, personal assumptions.
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I didn't come in here just talking shit, several years ago Ythan permabanned me for chopping L. Ron's dick off and it isn't my fault you missed the lesson. I don't really feel obligated to recite the entire zappaisgod ouvre every time some kid comes and professes a taste for his dick. Why don't you just tell me what you think is so cool about the asshole and we can go from there?
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I didn't come in here just talking shit, several years ago Ythan permabanned me for chopping L. Ron's dick off and it isn't my fault you missed the lesson.
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I didn't come in here just talking shit, several years ago Ythan permabanned me for chopping L. Ron's dick off and it isn't my fault you missed the lesson.
Whose dick did you suck to get unpermabanned?
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Nobody's. Several people pointed out the error of his ways.
That's his story and he's sticking to it.
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Truth is Wolf Blitzers an asshole. He's just trying to delegitimize Ron Paul's candidacy. I think Ron Paul along with the campaign is just trying to throw all their energy into winning the republican nomination cause they know third party never wins presidency at least nowdays.
He definitely has the best chance for election with the Republican party, but I'm seriously concerned about his chances of recieving the nomination due to the dates of the primary. Usually the only ones who are on the ball and are prepared to vote in these are political activists or older citizens, the far majority being in the latter.
I've also noticed that nearly all older folk are always automatically turned off to Ron Paul, too stubborn to even listen to the reasoning behind his supposed maddness. I believe this to be a result of him being labeled a fringe candidate(labels can do soo much harm to an idealist) for so many years, or because the older generations have simply gotten used to the status quo of large, power hungry government, while never having experienced anything close to a constitution abiding government. It would probably take a miracle for their conditioned minds to suddenly be open to the idea of a radical change, but I'm hoping for just that.
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Because he is a social conservative wrapped up in a Libertarian blanket.
So? These labels do nothing to discredit the man or, more importantly, his ideas.
Maybe for you.
For everyone but you. They don't mean much other than the meaning you give them. I see those labels as positive, especially the Libertarian blanket. Sounds amazing lol.
Social conservatism is a plague. I can deal with fiscially conservative, I understand the argument of small Federal government, I understand people wanting to end subsidies, I understand not policing the world. I can't understand why someone thinks it is their right to tell someone they can't marry someone of the same gender, or get an abortion.
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I didn't come in here just talking shit, several years ago Ythan permabanned me for chopping L. Ron's dick off and it isn't my fault you missed the lesson. I don't really feel obligated to recite the entire zappaisgod ouvre every time some kid comes and professes a taste for his dick. Why don't you just tell me what you think is so cool about the asshole and we can go from there?
Are you serious? I'm not going to sit here and explain everything I like about Ron Paul, it would take me hours and pages.
I can sum it up briefly for you: He's honest, he has strong, moral values and sticks to them, he understands and abides by the constitution, and his policies are backed with logic and reason.
If you would like to hear my view of a specific policy or position, pick one you have a problem with, otherwise the post you are asking for will be thousands of words long.
L. Ron has no chance of winning either the nomination or the general election. None.
I have examined the jerk-off extensively, specifically eviscerated his idiocy at all turns
He is a douche and he has no shot and I am eagerly awaiting the day he rides off into the sunset forever so I will not have to joust with his increasingly moronic supporters.
Substantiate your shit talking or stfu.
And please do not recite the zappaisgod oeurve.. I'm sure you've had a wonderful career antogonizing the shroomery forums.
I simply want to know why RP is an idiot and why I'm a mind numb cock sucking zombie moron for supporting him....?
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I can't understand why someone thinks it is their right to tell someone they can't marry someone of the same gender, or get an abortion.
He would place these decisions with the state.
The only legislation he would pass would be "the sanctity of life act", which simply defines life as beginning at conception, along with the repeals necessary to restore the decision to the state.
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I can deal with fiscially conservative
You wouldn't be able to tell that from any of your previous posts.
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I didn't come in here just talking shit, several years ago Ythan permabanned me for chopping L. Ron's dick off and it isn't my fault you missed the lesson. I don't really feel obligated to recite the entire zappaisgod ouvre every time some kid comes and professes a taste for his dick. Why don't you just tell me what you think is so cool about the asshole and we can go from there?
Are you serious? I'm not going to sit here and explain everything I like about Ron Paul, it would take me hours and pages.
I can sum it up briefly for you: He's honest, he has strong, moral values and sticks to them, he understands and abides by the constitution, and his policies are backed with logic and reason.
If you would like to hear my view of a specific policy or position, pick one you have a problem with, otherwise the post you are asking for will be thousands of words long.
L. Ron has no chance of winning either the nomination or the general election. None.
I have examined the jerk-off extensively, specifically eviscerated his idiocy at all turns
He is a douche and he has no shot and I am eagerly awaiting the day he rides off into the sunset forever so I will not have to joust with his increasingly moronic supporters.
Substantiate your shit talking or stfu.
And please do not recite the zappaisgod oeurve.. I'm sure you've had a wonderful career antogonizing the shroomery forums.
Let us begin with ending the Fed and isolationism. Both moronic. Thank you, good bye.Quote:
I simply want to know why RP is an idiot and why I'm a mind numb cock sucking zombie moron for supporting him....?
I get tired of this shit. Everybody is tired of the L. Ron nonsense that gets posted here. He has no chance. Get over it, move on, find somebody else. Or not. I don't give a fuck.
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What do you guys think about him?
I would vote for him because he wants to legalize pot.
the downside is his age..
give me some thoughts, an opinons about this mater an
why he should be president
Why would you vote for someone solely based on drug policy? I'm probably going to vote for Ron Paul but drug policy reformation, although important, is probably last on my reasons of why he would deserve my vote.
I hate to take away votes from politicians I like, but what I dislike even more is when people vote without making an informed decision. Make sure you familiarize yourself with the rest of his issues, you might find that you disagree with a lot of his other political positions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul
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Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed
Ron Paul loyalists have been vindicated. After months of observations that the mainstream media was ignoring the libertarian standard-bearer, a new study by the Pew Research Center's Project for Excellence in Journalism shows just that: the Texas Congressman, who has consistently polled in the high single digits -- Real Clear Politics's aggregate poll currently has him at 8 percent -- has received the least overall coverage of any candidate.
More:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/10/ron-paul-media-blackout-confirmed/43747/
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: zorbman]
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it's fucked up how much control the media has over this election
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: pantsboy]
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it's fucked up how much control the media has over this election
There are people behind those medias, they have political opinions that they force down the throat of people.
Ron paul is against illegal immigration
Ron paul is against the war on drugs
Ron paul is against the war in the middle east.
Herman cain is also disavantaged on that polls. it just shows how the Capitalist octopus rules us, they control your brain.
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The only legislation he would pass would be "the sanctity of life act", which simply defines life as beginning at conception, along with the repeals necessary to restore the decision to the state.
Please point me towards the relevant article in the Constitution that gives the President power to define when life begins.
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I didn't come in here just talking shit, several years ago Ythan permabanned me for chopping L. Ron's dick off and it isn't my fault you missed the lesson. I don't really feel obligated to recite the entire zappaisgod ouvre every time some kid comes and professes a taste for his dick. Why don't you just tell me what you think is so cool about the asshole and we can go from there?
Are you serious? I'm not going to sit here and explain everything I like about Ron Paul, it would take me hours and pages.
I can sum it up briefly for you: He's honest, he has strong, moral values and sticks to them, he understands and abides by the constitution, and his policies are backed with logic and reason.
If you would like to hear my view of a specific policy or position, pick one you have a problem with, otherwise the post you are asking for will be thousands of words long.
L. Ron has no chance of winning either the nomination or the general election. None.
I have examined the jerk-off extensively, specifically eviscerated his idiocy at all turns
He is a douche and he has no shot and I am eagerly awaiting the day he rides off into the sunset forever so I will not have to joust with his increasingly moronic supporters.
Substantiate your shit talking or stfu.
And please do not recite the zappaisgod oeurve.. I'm sure you've had a wonderful career antogonizing the shroomery forums.
Let us begin with ending the Fed and isolationism. Both moronic. Thank you, good bye.Quote:
I simply want to know why RP is an idiot and why I'm a mind numb cock sucking zombie moron for supporting him....?
I get tired of this shit. Everybody is tired of the L. Ron nonsense that gets posted here. He has no chance. Get over it, move on, find somebody else. Or not. I don't give a fuck.
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zappaisgod said:
I didn't come in here just talking shit, several years ago Ythan permabanned me for chopping L. Ron's dick off and it isn't my fault you missed the lesson. I don't really feel obligated to recite the entire zappaisgod ouvre every time some kid comes and professes a taste for his dick. Why don't you just tell me what you think is so cool about the asshole and we can go from there?
Are you serious? I'm not going to sit here and explain everything I like about Ron Paul, it would take me hours and pages.
I can sum it up briefly for you: He's honest, he has strong, moral values and sticks to them, he understands and abides by the constitution, and his policies are backed with logic and reason.
If you would like to hear my view of a specific policy or position, pick one you have a problem with, otherwise the post you are asking for will be thousands of words long.
L. Ron has no chance of winning either the nomination or the general election. None.
I have examined the jerk-off extensively, specifically eviscerated his idiocy at all turns
He is a douche and he has no shot and I am eagerly awaiting the day he rides off into the sunset forever so I will not have to joust with his increasingly moronic supporters.
Substantiate your shit talking or stfu.
And please do not recite the zappaisgod oeurve.. I'm sure you've had a wonderful career antogonizing the shroomery forums.
Let us begin with ending the Fed and isolationism. Both moronic. Thank you, good bye.Quote:
I simply want to know why RP is an idiot and why I'm a mind numb cock sucking zombie moron for supporting him....?
I get tired of this shit. Everybody is tired of the L. Ron nonsense that gets posted here. He has no chance. Get over it, move on, find somebody else. Or not. I don't give a fuck.
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mushiepussy said:
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zappaisgod said:
I didn't come in here just talking shit, several years ago Ythan permabanned me for chopping L. Ron's dick off and it isn't my fault you missed the lesson. I don't really feel obligated to recite the entire zappaisgod ouvre every time some kid comes and professes a taste for his dick. Why don't you just tell me what you think is so cool about the asshole and we can go from there?
Are you serious? I'm not going to sit here and explain everything I like about Ron Paul, it would take me hours and pages.
I can sum it up briefly for you: He's honest, he has strong, moral values and sticks to them, he understands and abides by the constitution, and his policies are backed with logic and reason.
If you would like to hear my view of a specific policy or position, pick one you have a problem with, otherwise the post you are asking for will be thousands of words long.
L. Ron has no chance of winning either the nomination or the general election. None.
I have examined the jerk-off extensively, specifically eviscerated his idiocy at all turns
He is a douche and he has no shot and I am eagerly awaiting the day he rides off into the sunset forever so I will not have to joust with his increasingly moronic supporters.
Substantiate your shit talking or stfu.
And please do not recite the zappaisgod oeurve.. I'm sure you've had a wonderful career antogonizing the shroomery forums.
Let us begin with ending the Fed and isolationism. Both moronic. Thank you, good bye.Quote:
I simply want to know why RP is an idiot and why I'm a mind numb cock sucking zombie moron for supporting him....?
I get tired of this shit. Everybody is tired of the L. Ron nonsense that gets posted here. He has no chance. Get over it, move on, find somebody else. Or not. I don't give a fuck.
While I plan to vote for Ron Paul I don't necessarily believe he's the answer but IMO he's the only candidate not offering more of the same. So why would ending the federal reserve be a bad thing? I think it can be argued that the fed reserve has failed to do what it was created to do.
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The fed has been an immensely successful stabilizing force.
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Look at the state of the world........
Clinton, Bush, Bush, Obama
Look at how many people aren't happy with the way things are
Why keep voting for the same people who have led us into this state.
Ron Paul out of any candidate deserves to win, He is clearly passionate about everyone deserving true freedom and to have the government stop interfering with people's personal lives.
What good would any other candidate do?
Or would they just keep doing the same shit like all the last presidents?
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Big Worm]
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I see 20 years of liberal spenders (yes, Bush was a liberal spender). The answer is a conservative, not an jackass.
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I see 20 years of liberal spenders (yes, Bush was a liberal spender). The answer is a conservative, not an jackass.
keep dreaming and voting otherwise.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: pantsboy]
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Ron Paul the only candidate that will Repeal Legal Tender laws for Competing Currencies to compete with the con that is the Federal Reserve System. That alone makes him the only viable candidate in the elections. Zappaisgod is blockaded by the wall of illusion...but that will change naturally as we all awake sooner or later.
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The President does not have the power to "Repeal Legal Tender laws for Competing Currencies to compete with the con that is the Federal Reserve System." Aside from the fact that it is retarded he couldn't do it anyway. Go away. Fuck me I can't wait for the end of these idiots.
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Ron Paul is going to outlive you zappa, don't kid yourself
The man is spry
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He's got my vote. Anyone the media tries to hide must be a good person because the rest are just the same politicians but with a different name and color.
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Maybe. I won't quit bacon and drinking and smoking. I'd rather die.
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The President does not have the power to "Repeal Legal Tender laws for Competing Currencies to compete with the con that is the Federal Reserve System." Aside from the fact that it is retarded he couldn't do it anyway. Go away. Fuck me I can't wait for the end of these idiots.
He can with an exec. order, and it is brilliant and a return to the principles of our founding. Explain yourself or you look like a fool. And you will become obsolete just as the fed
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: pantsboy]
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it's fucked up how much control the media has over this election
So that tells us that the government is controlling the media. This we should protest about.
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Damn I just made some bacon, so fire
Perry is done, Huntsman goes to double digits nationally
My predictions for the night
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Maybe. I won't quit bacon and drinking and smoking. I'd rather die.
Love thyself.
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Whenever Ron Paul speaks, I notice every candidate turns to hear him.
Football players always copy from the smart guy in class.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: zorbman]
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They all turn and look because he always takes the moderators bait. "What would you do with the Fed Rep Paul?"
Rep Paul "Fucking Burn it"
that is why they all listen
Herman reciting 9 9 9 over and over again isn't worth moving your head for
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I just saw the CSNBC debate; mostly Rick Perry's contribution to that debate.  I knew it was only a matter of time before that retard shot himself in the foot.
So with Perry and Cain out That would make Romney and Paul the front runners by a wide margin yes?
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I thought RP was 3rd in the polls right now.
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So any other positive things about Paul besides his support of cannabis? I mean Obama acted like he was going to at least support that cause, until he got in, and then he practically laughed it away.
And do we really want the US to gain all the power they would from legalization? Of couse they would lose power too, and have to release all those wrongefully in prison, which needs to happen !GO RON PAUL!
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So any other positive things about Paul besides his support of cannabis? I mean Obama acted like he was going to at least support that cause, until he got in, and then he practically laughed it away.
And do we really want the US to gain all the power they would from legalization? Of couse they would lose power too, and have to release all those wrongefully in prison, which needs to happen !GO RON PAUL!
End the wars. Cut down federal departments. Save over a trillion dollars in first year in office. Repeal the patriot act. Get rid of the income tax. Let states decide their drug laws. No real ID cars/government intervention of Internet, audit of the federal reserve, potentially a much better economy, no big corporation bail outs, etc....................
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End the wars.
Did anyone watch the debates last night? It'd be interesting to know how Paul would handle the situation concerning Iran.
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Let states decide their drug laws.
Drug prohibition should be unconstitutional IMO.
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Let states decide their drug laws.
Drug prohibition should be unconstitutional IMO.
And Abortions should be judged on a case-by-case basis, much like death penalty trials are.
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Abortions shouldn't even be judged at all if they are done before the third trimester; prohibition of abortions done before the third trimester should be unconstitutional.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Poid]
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Abortions shouldn't even be judged at all if they are done before the third trimester; prohibition of abortions done before the third trimester should be unconstitutional.
There is a serious disturbance in the force.
Twice today, I have agreed with you.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Poid]
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God bless Ron Paul and our troops. They deserve for us to fight for them to come home. How would we feel if China come here making us bow to their views. It's time to stand up for real world peace and bring the government back under the constitution before we lose all of our freedom in the name of terrorism and the drug war!
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Abortions shouldn't even be judged at all if they are done before the third trimester; prohibition of abortions done before the third trimester should be unconstitutional.
There is a serious disturbance in the force.
Twice today, I have agreed with you.
That's strange to hear, I would've thought you were a member of the anti-abortion crowd.
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Nope. I'm a pro-abortion atheist who doesn't care where mosques are built, or if gays wed or are in the military.
However, I don't want my tax dollars to pay for abortions.
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Ron Paul says the states should be allowed to choose if abortions are illegal or not. That's the way if you don't like what's happening in the state in which you live pack up and move to the state that best fits you. The government system is a one fit all type deal. Whether you like it or not we will do as we please says your government. Then came a man that would be willing to restore power back to the states and then you can pick which is best suited for your lifestyle. If you haven't figured it out yet that man is Sir. Dr. Paul
(President Ron Paul) Vote for Ron Paul in 2012 if you care about your freedom.
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Are you unaware that state governments are also, wait for it, governments?
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zappa, I hope ron paul runs as a third party candidate if he doesnt get the GOP nomination. you know what would happen there right? it would take votes away from the GOP causing obama to win most likely. and that would pissss you offf. or best case cenario ron paul wins...which would also piss you off.
Ron Paul is without doubt the most honest politician every. you cannot argue that. the rest are all bought and paid for by lobbyists.
the media hates him. that tells me hes doing something right.
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Are you unaware that state governments are also, wait for it, governments?
states should be allowed to do what they want with there laws as long as they abide by the constitution. that way people can live in the state that has laws they like and states can also learn from eachother and see what works best. smaller communities work better I think
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zappa, why do you think Ron Paul gets the most donations from active military members? serious question
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Ron Paul got blacked out hard tonights debate. CBS are fucking assholes. I think it may backfire on the media. Hopefully Ron Paul wins the Iowa primary, if not I hope he runs third party too. Republican party deserves to be fucked over if they ignore Ron Paul. I know we at least have a strong 10% many of who won't vote for anyone else. Take 10% of voters away from the republicans choice and they will probably not win.
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I'm not sure where the idea comes from that most likely RP voters are Republicans. RP may be, nominally, a member of the Republican party but most of the people I know that would consider voting for him would likely vote Democrat if they couldn't vote for him.
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Ron Paul got blacked out hard tonights debate. CBS are fucking assholes. I think it may backfire on the media. Hopefully Ron Paul wins the Iowa primary, if not I hope he runs third party too. Republican party deserves to be fucked over if they ignore Ron Paul. I know we at least have a strong 10% many of who won't vote for anyone else. Take 10% of voters away from the republicans choice and they will probably not win.
We can only hope he does
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Let us begin with ending the Fed and isolationism. Both moronic. Thank you, good bye.
Ron Paul is not for isolationism, he only believes in concentrating our military force on our own borders and not on unnecessary foreign conflict. He does not believe in discontinuing international trade, or any of the other things isolationism implies.
Ending an organization largely responsible for our economic turmoil is not moronic. The Fed has the responsibility of overseeing loan operations(within member banks, which most of the banks irresponsibly loaning are), ensuring they are lending to credible recipients. Obviously they had not been doing this, which is actually punishable by law.. though their un-auditable nature has prevented this. This alone is enough for me to support a full audit of the Feds activities, including discussions held behind closed doors between the board of directors which is currently off limits to congress, and IMO a total overhaul of the Fed could only benefit the American public. It is not necessary to have a private central bank, there are other options.
The answer is a conservative, not an jackass.
Ron Paul is by far the most conservative candidate out there.
The President does not have the power to "Repeal Legal Tender laws for Competing Currencies to compete with the con that is the Federal Reserve System." Aside from the fact that it is retarded he couldn't do it anyway. Go away. Fuck me I can't wait for the end of these idiots.
You go away.. or at least tell us who/what you support so we have the opportunity to call you an idiot.
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Let us begin with ending the Fed and isolationism. Both moronic. Thank you, good bye.
Ron Paul is not for isolationism, he only believes in concentrating our military force on our own borders and not on unnecessary foreign conflict. He does not believe in discontinuing international trade, or any of the other things isolationism implies.
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Ending an organization largely responsible for our economic turmoil is not moronic. The Fed has the responsibility of overseeing loan operations(within member banks, which most of the banks irresponsibly loaning are), ensuring they are lending to credible recipients. Obviously they had not been doing this, which is actually punishable by law.. though their un-auditable nature has prevented this. This alone is enough for me to support a full audit of the Feds activities, including discussions held behind closed doors between the board of directors which is currently off limits to congress, and IMO a total overhaul of the Fed could only benefit the American public. It is not necessary to have a private central bank, there are other options.
The Fed is not responsible for lending money to bums. That is Congress and the social/economic justice jackasses. Greenspan warned about the housing market caused by the CRA. It annoys the living shit out of me that simpletons persist in demonizing the Fed for results that it had no part in causing. And the Fed is audited and appointed by Congress. Th ignorance of the Paulbots is bordering on stunning.Quote:
The answer is a conservative, not an jackass.
Ron Paul is by far the most conservative candidate out there.
He is a fucking lunatic.Quote:
The President does not have the power to "Repeal Legal Tender laws for Competing Currencies to compete with the con that is the Federal Reserve System." Aside from the fact that it is retarded he couldn't do it anyway. Go away. Fuck me I can't wait for the end of these idiots.
You go away.. or at least tell us who/what you support so we have the opportunity to call you an idiot.
Anybody but Obama and L. Ron. Cults of personality, and that is what they both have, scare me and should be avoided.
I have repeatedly said that Rudy would be my number one choice. I have also expressed that Romney would be OK and that Newt is getting more and more OK by the day. Perry, I don't think, is up to the challenge of campaigning in the hostile media environment that all conservatives must face but I think he would be fine at the job. Unfortunately the skill sets for getting the job and performing the job don't overlap that much.
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L. RON IS NOT WINNING ANY NATIONAL ELECTION. NOT NOW, NOT HERE, NOT EVER. Get over it.
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"And the Fed is audited and appointed by Congress."
There has never been a full audit of the federal reserve. There was the partial audit mid year that revealed $16 trillion in loans to banks and corporations around the world.
Even Newt Gingrich is for a full audit and more transparency in the federal reserve.
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"And the Fed is audited and appointed by Congress."
There has never been a full audit of the federal reserve. There was the partial audit mid year that revealed $16 trillion in loans to banks and corporations around the world.
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Even Newt Gingrich is for a full audit and more transparency in the federal reserve.
I don't think I have a problem with that. I do, of course, worry about how babbling ignoramuses will distort and lie about the results.
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"And the Fed is audited and appointed by Congress."
There has never been a full audit of the federal reserve. There was the partial audit mid year that revealed $16 trillion in loans to banks and corporations around the world.
Link? http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/federal-reserve-audit-highlights-possible-conflicts-of-interest/2011/07/21/gIQAJbbnSI_story.htmlQuote:
Even Newt Gingrich is for a full audit and more transparency in the federal reserve.
I don't think I have a problem with that. I do, of course, worry about how babbling ignoramuses will distort and lie about the results.
Here's some copypasta from newt.org
Weak growth, large deficits and reckless monetary policy at the Federal Reserve have substantially weakened every dollar in our pockets. Over the last decade, the Fed has printed new money at breakneck speed, so now a dollar in 2011 only buys what 76 cents did in 2000. Additionally, the Fed’s secret bailouts, artificially low interest rates, and attempts to manipulate the economy through printing money have devastated the housing market and distorted business decision-making, only prolonging our employment crisis.
The remedy for this is robust economic growth, balanced budgets, and an end to the irresponsible and opaque policies of Ben Bernanke’s Federal Reserve.
Newt Gingrich’s Jobs and Prosperity Plan, released in May, and Gingrich’s plan to reform the Federal Reserve, released in June, propose bold reforms that will empower job-creators, balance the budget, and dramatically limit the role of the Federal Reserve. These plans are now both part of the 21st Century Contract with America.
Additionally, Gingrich will demand a full audit and more transparency at the Fed, to ensure that the Fed can never again repeat the mistakes of 2008 and make thousands of secret loans to banks and other large institutions for reasons that are not entirely clear.
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The Fed does not print money, the Treasury does. The Fed did not cause pass the Porkulus bill, Congress did. Inflation eroding the dollar down to $0.76 over 11 years years is historically low. Any manipulation was done at the behest of Congress. The housing market problem has nothing to do with printing money. The only thing that has distorted business processes is the tax code.
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Ron Paul is not for isolationism, he only believes in concentrating our military force on our own borders and not on unnecessary foreign conflict. He does not believe in discontinuing international trade, or any of the other things isolationism implies.
False, as I have exposed several times.
Then it should be easy to repeat..
The Fed is not responsible for lending money to bums. That is Congress and the social/economic justice jackasses. Greenspan warned about the housing market caused by the CRA. It annoys the living shit out of me that simpletons persist in demonizing the Fed for results that it had no part in causing. And the Fed is audited and appointed by Congress. Th ignorance of the Paulbots is bordering on stunning.
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"The board of directors of each Federal Reserve Bank District also has regulatory and supervisory responsibilities. For example, a member bank (private bank) is not permitted to give out too many loans to people who cannot pay them back. This is because too many defaults on loans will lead to a bank run. If the board of directors has judged that a member bank is performing or behaving poorly, it will report this to the Board of Governors.
Each Federal reserve bank shall keep itself informed of the general character and amount of the loans and investments of its member banks with a view to ascertaining whether undue use is being made of bank credit for the speculative carrying of or trading in securities, real estate, or commodities, or for any other purpose inconsistent with the maintenance of sound credit conditions; and, in determining whether to grant or refuse advances, re-discounts, or other credit accommodations, the Federal reserve bank shall give consideration to such information. The chairman of the Federal reserve bank shall report to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System any such undue use of bank credit by any member bank, together with his recommendation. Whenever, in the judgment of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, any member bank is making such undue use of bank credit, the Board may, in its discretion, after reasonable notice and an opportunity for a hearing, suspend such bank from the use of the credit facilities of the Federal Reserve System and may terminate such suspension or may renew it from time to time."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System
It is their responsibility to evaluate the credibility of loans made by member banks, they either failed to do this effectively or chose to ignore this responsibility entirely. This responsibility is crucial in preventing asset bubbles, and by ignoring it they failed to maintain financial stability, which is one of their core purposes.
If they are failing to do what they were designed to do, why should we not consider replacing them with a different system? I think you would have to be ignorant or completely moronic not to..
Perry, I don't think, is up to the challenge of campaigning in the hostile media environment that all conservatives must face but I think he would be fine at the job. Unfortunately the skill sets for getting the job and performing the job don't overlap that much.
So.. the man who has executed someone before proving guilt, thinks America's economy can be fixed simply by drilling for oil, and barely remembers what he plans to do once elected would make a fine president.. but the man who devotes his life to protecting freedom for the innocent, has a real plan to eliminate America's budget deficit and stimulate the free market, and has rock solid beliefs in which he has never forgotten.. is a lunatic and jackass...
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Irie,
Sorry I haven't been apart of this discussion!
But if you'll Americans don't understand that Ron Paul is the only guy that'll tell it's shit when it is shit, rather than dress it up to make it look good....Get serious!
Please from the rest of the friggin World!!!
Vote Ron Paul 2012!!!
As a Paul supporter for over 7yrs PLEASE!
Respect,
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Zaka]
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Tri High]
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I'm pretty sure that was a reply to my assertion that Paul was much more likely to siphon off likely Dem voters than Republican ones.
Hell, I think zappa is a crazy old coot and that made sense to me.
Are you being willfully obtuse?
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Let states decide their drug laws.
Drug prohibition should be unconstitutional IMO.
And Abortions should be judged on a case-by-case basis, much like death penalty trials are.
Couldn't agree more. I think everyone should have the right to abortions, but all too often I have seen the system horribly abused by young teens who end up using abortions as their main method of birth control. There needs to be something keeping the system in check so it doesn't become another 'slippery-slope' policy. I wouldn't want any of those teens to be mothers as the fact that they have had near 10 abortions shows their lack of responsibility and maturity, yet it shows that there needs to be more emphasis on teaching sex education and far less attention to brainwashing people with people with abstinence as it obviously isn't working.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: pantsboy]
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Bloomberg News Poll- Iowa- Cain-20%, Paul 19%, Romney 18%, Gingrich 17%
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-15/romney-two-way-race-is-now-four-way-republican-dead-heat-in-iowa-caucuses.html
Good news for Ron Paul fans!!! The Iowa caucus is looking good right now. Two months away and Ron Paul is near first place there according to this poll and with the sexual harassment allegations Herman Cain might continue to drop and Gingrich may also see a drop soon as his past gets dug up more by the media.
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Smallish sample size, but still pretty damn cool. 
Newt has a good understanding of the system and some decent ideas, but I think he is viewed as prone to corruption by the american public, at least I hope he is. Cheating on his wife while arguing to impeach Clinton for the same thing.. not exactly the qualities of a strong willed individual. Staying married to the same person for 50 something years.. that takes some serious fucking will power, especially when your lady's chubby.
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Wow. That old crap just never dies out.
The impeachment of Clinton was for lying under oath to a Grand Jury, not for having sex.
He was impeached, but not convicted. Further, Clinton was disbarred from practicing law as a result of the same incident.
Had he been smart enough to say "it's none of your business" when asked, he'd have been golden.
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Yeah, you're right. Newt still cheated on his wife though, which is a pretty big strike in my book. IMO most character flaws correlate with weakness in big picture ideology.
Think of the president as an apple (not to much of a stretch for Gingrich lol).. one minor imperfection or weakness in the skin, and the core of the apple is at risk. We need an apple capable of withstanding every kind of pressure, one that is capable of protecting it's own core. IMO Newt is not that apple.
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Meh, infidelity is pretty common.
If you're going to start discounting the opinions of great people because of their personal infidelities, it's a pretty long list of people you're going to write off. MLK, JFK, FDR, Thomas Jefferson, etc.
I mean, that's kind of ridiculous, don't you think? Those ares ome of the greatest people in American history. To say they're rotten because they cheated on their wives is asinine.
I don't like Newt, but I couldn't care less about him cheating on his wife. It's not a big deal to me.
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It's a strike in mine as well.
Morals, character, honesty... all mean a great deal to me.
Unfortunately, being holding to those standards that would mean no more politicians. Ever.
The best you can do is get as close as possible.
It sucks, but that's the way it is.
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What about Newt and his 1.6 mil from Freddie?
What about Newt and his 6 wives, JFK and the rest only had one
What about Newt and his ridiculous line of books that he pushes while campaigning
What about Newt and his support of a public option for health care
What about Newt and his support of green energy
You're from the Chi you should kno a crooked piece of shit when you see one.....
Having 6 wives is pretty much consistent with all his views, they change when it suits Newt
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I actually own some of Newt's books. I don't like him, but I like alternate histories.
Like I said, you're preaching to the choir. I don't support Newt, or anyone in the Republican field.
I just don't give two shits that he cheated on his wives.
I care a ton more about Cain being apparently more clueless about world affairs than my TMZ-addicted girlfriend.
I care a ton more about Santorum's blatant hatred of homosexuals.
I care a ton more about Perry and Bachmann promoting the invasion of numerous countries in addition to those we've already (unjustly?) invaded.
And, since this is nominally an RP thread, I care a ton more about Ron Paul wanting to destroy the American system that has provide the highest standard of living to the greatest number of people of any governmental system in the history of man.
Cheating on your wife? Not so much.
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Cheating on your wife, and having 6 of them
Two very different things, we like our appearances
Please stop saying stupid shit like his 6 wives don't matter, they do
You realize that half the republican party are SOCIAL conservatives right/
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I'm telling you it doesn't fucking matter.
If he gets the nomination it's going to be him vs Barack Obama.
Do you think the social conservatives are going to vote for fucking Obama?
Romney is a fucking Mormon. Until recently, his religion OBLIGATED HIM TO HAVE SIX FUCKING WIVES.
You think social conservatives are going to get behind that?
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Yea there you go, Romney's religion matters too. Now you're getting it.
Now just apply that to Newt
Not to bright are you?
There is a difference between something having an affect on a primary and something deciding it. Religion and fidelity affect the race, not decide it
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They don't have an infinite variety of choices.
By your standards, Bachmann and Santorum should be the leading candidates in the Republican field, they being the most amenable to social conservatives.
Obviously your equation has a flaw in it. If social conservatives are what counts, why are the two most socially conservative politicans polling very close the the bottom?
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What about Newt and his 1.6 mil from Freddie?
They paid him as a consultant. They didn't listen to him. Their bad. Not his.Quote:
What about Newt and his 6 wives, JFK and the rest only had one
Three. Reagan had two. Maybe the more wives the better the President. I've had two. You got a problem with divorces?Quote:
What about Newt and his ridiculous line of books that he pushes while campaigning
If you want to know what the man thinks what better way to find out? How do you know they're ridiculous? have you read them? ( , I crack me up)Quote:
What about Newt and his support of a public option for health care
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What about Newt and his support of green energy
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You're from the Chi you should kno a crooked piece of shit when you see one.....
Please provide us with any reports of crookedness linked to Newt. As far as I know he has neither been convicted nor arrested.Quote:
Having 6 wives is pretty much consistent with all his views, they change when it suits Newt
He's had three. He isn't perfect in my eyes but he is up there. And he would be 100% better than that Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Massive Failure we have now. My cat would be.
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Cheating on your wife, and having 6 of them
Two very different things, we like our appearances
Please stop saying stupid shit like his 6 wives don't matter, they do
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You realize that half the republican party are SOCIAL conservatives right
At least. I don't know that they are looking to outlaw divorce, though. They are very forgiving.
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When you switch between 3 bitches that many times
Each one counts as 2
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When you switch between 3 bitches that many times
Each one counts as 2
How do you know they were bitches? Did you read his books?
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the term "bitches" (when you're under 30) is a benign term for females
Normally referring to possible mates
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the term "bitches" (when you're under 30) is a benign term for females
Normally referring to possible mates
Yet another example of what scummy little twats the under thirties are. I wonder what the under thirty gender studies females think about that. Maybe they prefer Hos.
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the term "bitches" (when you're under 30) is a benign term for females
Normally referring to possible mates
Yet another example of what scummy little twats the under thirties are. I wonder what the under thirty gender studies females think about that. Maybe they prefer Hos.
get with the times old man.lol
im sure you said some shit when you were young that your grandpa would say is retarded. it happens every generation
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If you're going to start discounting the opinions of great people because of their personal infidelities, it's a pretty long list of people you're going to write off. MLK, JFK, FDR, Thomas Jefferson, etc.
Which in part is why my favorite president is Lincoln. Also, I discounted no person's opinions.
To say they're rotten because they cheated on their wives is asinine.
I'm saying cheating on your wife is a sign of moral weakness, and those people are prone to rot under the pressure of power.
Whether the apple actually ferments or not depends on the size of the bruise and the strength of the core.
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the term "bitches" (when you're under 30) is a benign term for females
Normally referring to possible mates
Yet another example of what scummy little twats the under thirties are.
More than any other poster on this board your posts have an underlying theme of "BECAUSE I'M BETTER THAN YOU!  "
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Heffy]
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the term "bitches" (when you're under 30) is a benign term for females
Normally referring to possible mates
Yet another example of what scummy little twats the under thirties are.
More than any other poster on this board your posts have an underlying theme of "BECAUSE I'M BETTER THAN YOU! "
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: zorbman]
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Says the guy after he reads the articles from that hot-bed of underground subversion, The Washington Post.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: zorbman]
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I thought I deleted that post after I decided to make it it's own thread.
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Says the guy after he reads the articles from that hot-bed of underground subversion, The Washington Post.
That's just one media outlet.
Ron Paul Media Blackout Confirmed
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/10/ron-paul-media-blackout-confirmed/43747/
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If you're going to start discounting the opinions of great people because of their personal infidelities, it's a pretty long list of people you're going to write off. MLK, JFK, FDR, Thomas Jefferson, etc.
Which in part is why my favorite president is Lincoln. Also, I discounted no person's opinions.
To say they're rotten because they cheated on their wives is asinine.
I'm saying cheating on your wife is a sign of moral weakness, and those people are prone to rot under the pressure of power.
Whether the apple actually ferments or not depends on the size of the bruise and the strength of the core.
I don't think hat was my post so why is my name in the "reply to" box?
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Heffy]
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the term "bitches" (when you're under 30) is a benign term for females
Normally referring to possible mates
Yet another example of what scummy little twats the under thirties are.
More than any other poster on this board your posts have an underlying theme of "BECAUSE I'M BETTER THAN YOU! "
In some cases it is absolutely clear that I am. Do you think it is appropriate to refer to women generally as "bitches"? "Hos"? There is nothing benign about it.
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/iowa/2012_iowa_republican_caucus
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The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers shows Gingrich with 32% followed by former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney at 19%. Georgia businessman Herman Cain, who led in Iowa last month, drops to third with 13% of the vote. Texas Congressman Ron Paul draws 10% of the vote in Iowa, while Texas Governor Rick Perry and Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann each grab six percent (6%). (To see survey question wording, click here.)
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/iowa/2012_iowa_republican_caucus
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The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers shows Gingrich with 32% followed by former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney at 19%. Georgia businessman Herman Cain, who led in Iowa last month, drops to third with 13% of the vote. Texas Congressman Ron Paul draws 10% of the vote in Iowa, while Texas Governor Rick Perry and Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann each grab six percent (6%). (To see survey question wording, click here.)
How convenient that only their poll shows Ron Paul that low in Iowa.
This poll came out today from Iowa State University - http://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2011/nov/ISUpoll
Cain 24.5%, Paul 20.4%, Gingrich 4.8%
There's also the Bloomberg poll from this week that shows Ron Paul in second place in Iowa -
http://reason.com/blog/2011/11/16/ron-paul-second-in-new-hampshire-as-well
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Virtually every time I have cited a Rasmussen poll in the past, they have been off, sometimes wildly, which is why I stopped quoting them. At one time they were fairly accurate. But it has been a while.
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/iowa/2012_iowa_republican_caucus
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The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers shows Gingrich with 32% followed by former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney at 19%. Georgia businessman Herman Cain, who led in Iowa last month, drops to third with 13% of the vote. Texas Congressman Ron Paul draws 10% of the vote in Iowa, while Texas Governor Rick Perry and Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann each grab six percent (6%). (To see survey question wording, click here.)
How convenient that only their poll shows Ron Paul that low in Iowa.
This poll came out today from Iowa State University - http://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2011/nov/ISUpoll
Cain 24.5%, Paul 20.4%, Gingrich 4.8%
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But the race remains remarkably fluid. Respondents were asked how certain they were of their choice and the majority of them (52.3 percent) indicated that they were undecide. Another 30.1 percent answered that they were only leaning toward one candidate. Only 16.5 percent indicated that they had definitely decided whom they would support.
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The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers shows Gingrich with 32% followed by former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney at 19%. Georgia businessman Herman Cain, who led in Iowa last month, drops to third with 13% of the vote. Texas Congressman Ron Paul draws 10% of the vote in Iowa, while Texas Governor Rick Perry and Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann each grab six percent (6%). (To see survey question wording, click here.)
How convenient that only their poll shows Ron Paul that low in Iowa.
This poll came out today from Iowa State University - http://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2011/nov/ISUpoll
Cain 24.5%, Paul 20.4%, Gingrich 4.8%
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But the race remains remarkably fluid. Respondents were asked how certain they were of their choice and the majority of them (52.3 percent) indicated that they were undecide. Another 30.1 percent answered that they were only leaning toward one candidate. Only 16.5 percent indicated that they had definitely decided whom they would support.
You sure you want to put too much stock in that poll?
No but the Bloomberg one is pretty good.
"The poll reflects the race’s fluidity, with 60 percent of respondents saying they still could be persuaded to back someone other than their top choice, and 10 percent undecided. Paul’s support is more solidified than his rivals, while Cain’s is softer. All of the major contenders have issue challenges to address."
"Paul’s campaign leads for voter contact, with about two thirds of respondents saying they’ve heard from his campaign, followed by 61 percent who said they’ve been reached by Bachmann’s campaign."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-15/romney-two-way-race-is-now-four-way-republican-dead-heat-in-iowa-caucuses.html
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In some cases it is absolutely clear that I am. Do you think it is appropriate to refer to women generally as "bitches"? "Hos"? There is nothing benign about it.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Heffy]
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Do you think it is appropriate to refer to women generally as "bitches"? "Hos"? There is nothing benign about it.
I think your conclusion is ultimately rigid and incapable of appreciating the multitude of nuances in which other people use words. Perhaps, for you, a tendency to refer to women as hos or bitches is disrespectful and evidence of character flaws, but it doesn't mean that others who display this tendency carry with them these types of intentions of meaning or that these types of complexes that you conclude must be present in order for them to engage in such behavior actually are.
You discounted heffy's comment that alludes to it simply being a matter of generational difference, but there very well could be validity in this notion.
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the term "bitches" (when you're under 30) is a benign term for females
Normally referring to possible mates
Yet another example of what scummy little twats the under thirties are.
More than any other poster on this board your posts have an underlying theme of "BECAUSE I'M BETTER THAN YOU! "
In some cases it is absolutely clear that I am. Do you think it is appropriate to refer to women generally as "bitches"? "Hos"? There is nothing benign about it.
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Do you think it is appropriate to refer to women generally as "bitches"? "Hos"? There is nothing benign about it.
I think your conclusion is ultimately rigid and incapable of appreciating the multitude of nuances in which other people use words. Perhaps, for you, a tendency to refer to women as hos or bitches is disrespectful and evidence of character flaws, but it doesn't mean that others who display this tendency carry with them these types of intentions of meaning or that these types of complexes that you conclude must be present in order for them to engage in such behavior actually are.
You discounted heffy's comment that alludes to it simply being a matter of generational difference, but there very well could be validity in this notion.
I still can't get an answer. How come?
If that is their culture I have no more respect for it than I do for Muslim lunatics who deny women equal rights. Nuances? White boy saying "nigger" bad. Negro saying "nigger' good. Nuanced? No. Bullshit? Yes.
There certainly were examples of the generation previous to mine complaining about our behavior. Some of it was accurate and correct. Some of it was bullshit.
Finally do you really think MycoMayhem was using the term generically and benignly for all women? I don't. They were just "bitches" to him because they were Newt's wives. Sadly we won't be able to ask him directly for about a year.
Another question for you and Heffy; Do you routinely refer to women in general as "bitches"? Is that your conversational idiom?
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Finally do you really think MycoMayhem was using the term generically and benignly for all women? I don't. They were just "bitches" to him because they were Newt's wives. Sadly we won't be able to ask him directly for about a year.
No, I don't think this was the case this time around, but I was never suggesting this. I'm simply saying that it isn't as if people who use this type of slang are necessarily actually having thoughts and feelings that would support the idea that their usage is disrespectful. In order for it to be disrespectful, it has to have certain underlying intentions and viewpoints. And I think there are a lot of youth who use these words generally and aren't being disrespectful, that the usage is benign.
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Nuances? White boy saying "nigger" bad. Negro saying "nigger' good. Nuanced? No. Bullshit? Yes.
This isn't an example of what I was referring to as being nuanced. I was talking about how there are a lot of different spirits in which one person can use the same word, and your blanket statement that there is nothing benign about it can't possibly be true, because there can be.
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Another question for you and Heffy; Do you routinely refer to women in general as "bitches"? Is that your conversational idiom?
I don't, although I've definitely used the word in select cases, although not always derogatory. But I like to use the word ho from time to time. Not in a derogatory fashion, in fact, I consider it quite the compliment. 
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Ohhh I've known my share of bitches. I used to be married to one of the all-time champeens. She didn't start that way but she sure has managed to reach the top of that field.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Revvroom]
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That's for damn sure lol.
Found this on youtube today, might be my favorite interview of Paul's to date..
AARP interviews Paul
It's about 20min long btw
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I remember when this thread was about politics.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: pantsboy]
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Calling someone a bitch is not so bad but routinely referring to women as Ho's is disrespectful and makes you look like a ignorant son of a bitch. Maybe it's excepted in certain crowds, I would say stop following idiots (rappers) or you'll look like one too. I think it's fucking hilarious that everybody wants to be a rapper. First off most people who invest there life in it won't ever get anywhere in the field second when you don't make it you still look like a fucking idiot you just wont be rich like they are so you can't get away with it.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Vahunter]
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I think it's fucking hilarious that everybody wants to be a rapper.
Talk about your bad generalizations.
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Obama kills people, Mitt Romney is even worse, I'm voting for Ron Paul. Why can't the candidates at least try to be different? I'm not 100% in favor of Ron Paul's ideas, especially surrounding birth control, but he's got to be better than these puppet baby killers. Bring back individual freedom!
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Every President kills people.
It's in the job description.
"Protect and Defend, From All Enemies..."etc.
Ron Paul, if (impossibly) elected, would without a doubt have to order someone killed in the course of his Presidency.
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skyekitty
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I have to have hope though, you know. Other candidates are going to continue the tradition of ordering soldiers to kill and die, they are going to continue forcing people into poverty with federal taxes, causing rampant violence and death. Perhaps if the power is released back to the states, more tragedy might be avoided, perhaps we could rebuild communities. Right now I cannot bear to pay taxes, to contribute to murder and mayhem all over the world, and I feel like I'm dancing on the edge of a knife. We need to go back to the ideals that this country was based on with the experience we now posess as a nation.
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skyekitty
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I have to have hope though, you know. Other candidates are going to continue the tradition of ordering soldiers to kill and die, they are going to continue forcing people into poverty with federal taxes, causing rampant violence and death. Perhaps if the power is released back to the states, more tragedy might be avoided, perhaps we could rebuild communities. Right now I cannot bear to pay taxes, to contribute to murder and mayhem all over the world, and I feel like I'm dancing on the edge of a knife. We need to go back to the ideals that this country was based on with the experience we now posess as a nation. Lincoln ran twice and won in the Electoral College with less than 40% of the popular vote nationwide the second time he ran, becoming the first republican president. (not that I'm a huge fan of Lincoln) My point being that every vote does count, especially at a time when less than 50% of the population uses their power.
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skyekitty
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Vahunter]
#16443174 - 06/27/12 12:20 AM (11 months, 16 days ago) |
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Calling someone a bitch is not so bad but routinely referring to women as Ho's is disrespectful and makes you look like a ignorant son of a bitch.
Not sure why this is in this thread but I just have a small point to make, all derogatory terms: bitch, ho, slapper, slut, etc are hurtful towards women because they reinforce a hierarchical patriarchal structure where women are unequal and inferior to men and most refer to a woman's sexuality, giving her less rights to her own body than a man. Don't get me wrong, sometimes the words are appropriate but a woman has to be pretty ruthlessly mean for me to call her a bitch.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: skyekitty] 3
#16443343 - 06/27/12 01:07 AM (11 months, 16 days ago) |
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I just have a small point to make, all derogatory terms: bitch, ho, slapper, slut, etc are hurtful towards women because they reinforce a hierarchical patriarchal structure where women are unequal and inferior
Being balls deep in a woman's fur burger and having her practically beg you to call her those things and far worse is really one of the finer things in life.
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Vahunter
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: psilynut]
#16446847 - 06/27/12 08:38 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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Stop with the hippy talk about war. War happens, that's life. One country will always try to push another country around, making war imminent. How about we talk about the good policies that Ron Paul supports instead. If put in a tigh stop he would wage war.
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skyekitty
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: Vahunter]
#16446954 - 06/27/12 08:58 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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But that is one of his central policies, he believes in isolationism. That's why he has so many supporters who are vets and soldiers. There are other policies I approve of such as his stance on income tax and the federal reserve, but really I am most excited about the prospect of peace and diplomacy. Who knows it could happen. Some countries haven't been at war for decades, it takes effort to initiate conquest and destruction.
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Vahunter
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Isolationism is not peacefulness. It's just less wars that we participate in. This exsoldier supports Ron Paul for his revolutionary stance on the federal reserve, taxes, and believe that foreign policy is the only reason he won't have a chance as president. We are in too deep to get out so easy. Peace is a great idea, but it's childish at best. Do you think those kids forgot about all the family members we've taken away from them. It's been proven so far with these people that they will grow up and seek revenge. Peace is not profitable, so what's more profitable than a never ending war on terror. I agree that the idea of peace sounds great but will never happen.
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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: skyekitty] 1
#16448063 - 06/28/12 12:04 AM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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But that is one of his central policies, he believes in isolationism.
Nonintervention or non-interventionism is a foreign policy which holds that political rulers should avoid alliances with other nations, but still retain diplomacy, and avoid all wars not related to direct self-defense. This is based on the grounds that a state should not interfere in the internal politics of another state, based upon the principles of state sovereignty and self-determination. A similar phrase is "strategic independence". Historical examples of supporters of non-interventionism are US Presidents George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, who both favored nonintervention in European Wars while maintaining free trade. Other proponents include United States Senator Robert Taft and United States Congressman Ron Paul.
Nonintervention is distinct from, and often confused with isolationism, the latter featuring economic nationalism (protectionism) and restrictive immigration. Proponents of non-interventionism distinguish their policies from isolationism through their advocacy of more open national relations, to include diplomacy and free trade.
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 imachavel
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what is it with lemmings? Now that you guys are discussing Ron Paul and his foreign politics, want to say something in the Gary Johnson thread? You don't all actually feel that the only people to vote for are the two main candidates in a two party system do you?
If you like Ron Paul, vote for him, but if he isn't nominated, is it then between Romney and Obama? Cmon think outside the line. Plus we won't truly know Ron Paul's stance on foreign policy until he is elected.
I'm just saying..................
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