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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15272687 - 10/24/11 09:03 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Ron Paul won't run as a libertarian.  Fighting to get Ron Paul the Republican nomination will secure four more years for Obama.  Hate to break it to you, but Ron Paul will never and should never be president.




He would most certainly run as a libertarian if he does not recieve the Republican nomination, and recent polls have shown Obama vs. Paul at 42% vs. 41%, hardly what I'd call a sure thing for Obama. (More polls showing Paul vs Obama)

So.. why should Ron Paul never be president?


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: PolkAudio2]
    #15273758 - 10/24/11 11:34 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

http://situationroom.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/24/blitzers-blog-will-ron-paul-run-as-3rd-party-candidate/?hpt=sr_mid


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“I haven’t thought about it, and I have no plans to do that,” he said. “So, no, that wouldn’t be in the cards for me.”





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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15274008 - 10/25/11 12:34 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Hmm.. maybe he's saying that to promote support for the republican nomination, but that is still disheartening. I had always just assumed he had plans to run as a third party candidate. He didn't say that he absolutely would not though, so there is still a chance he would.

Anyways, why do you think he should not be president?


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: mushiepussy]
    #15274194 - 10/25/11 01:24 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Truth is Wolf Blitzers an asshole. He's just trying to delegitimize Ron Paul's candidacy.  I think Ron Paul along with the campaign is just trying to throw all their energy into winning the republican nomination cause they know third party never wins presidency at least nowdays.


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: mushiepussy]
    #15274575 - 10/25/11 03:51 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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He would most certainly run as a libertarian if he does not recieve the Republican nomination




Hard to imagine. It's actually a political party with it's own candidates. By the time they will decide their candidate for the election, I'm pretty sure it'll be too late for Ron Paul to join them. Not to mention he didn't do it last time around either.


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: mushiepussy]
    #15275146 - 10/25/11 10:23 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Hmm.. maybe he's saying that to promote support for the republican nomination, but that is still disheartening. I had always just assumed he had plans to run as a third party candidate. He didn't say that he absolutely would not though, so there is still a chance he would.

Anyways, why do you think he should not be president?





Because he is a social conservative wrapped up in a Libertarian blanket.


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15276308 - 10/25/11 03:20 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Hmm.. maybe he's saying that to promote support for the republican nomination, but that is still disheartening. I had always just assumed he had plans to run as a third party candidate. He didn't say that he absolutely would not though, so there is still a chance he would.

Anyways, why do you think he should not be president?





Because he is a social conservative wrapped up in a Libertarian blanket.




You think a social conservative can't win a national election? :bitchplease:


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15279095 - 10/26/11 01:16 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Because he is a social conservative wrapped up in a Libertarian blanket.




So? These labels do nothing to discredit the man or, more importantly, his ideas.


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: mushiepussy]
    #15279159 - 10/26/11 01:34 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Because he is a social conservative wrapped up in a Libertarian blanket.




So? These labels do nothing to discredit the man or, more importantly, his ideas.





Maybe for you.


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: dtowntoker]
    #15279202 - 10/26/11 01:49 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Truth is Wolf Blitzers an asshole. He's just trying to delegitimize Ron Paul's candidacy.  I think Ron Paul along with the campaign is just trying to throw all their energy into winning the republican nomination cause they know third party never wins presidency at least nowdays.




He definitely has the best chance for election with the Republican party, but I'm seriously concerned about his chances of recieving the nomination due to the dates of the primary. Usually the only ones who are on the ball and are prepared to vote in these are political activists or older citizens, the far majority being in the latter.

I've also noticed that nearly all older folk are always automatically turned off to Ron Paul, too stubborn to even listen to the reasoning behind his supposed maddness. I believe this to be a result of him being labeled a fringe candidate(labels can do soo much harm to an idealist) for so many years, or because the older generations have simply gotten used to the status quo of large, power hungry government, while never having experienced anything close to a constitution abiding government. It would probably take a miracle for their conditioned minds to suddenly be open to the idea of a radical change, but I'm hoping for just that.

Polygraphs being mandated during presidential debates, that would probably do it lol.
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Because he is a social conservative wrapped up in a Libertarian blanket.




So? These labels do nothing to discredit the man or, more importantly, his ideas.





Maybe for you.




For everyone but you. They don't mean much other than the meaning you give them. I see those labels as positive, especially the Libertarian blanket. Sounds amazing lol.


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: mushiepussy]
    #15280230 - 10/26/11 10:48 AM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Truth is Wolf Blitzers an asshole. He's just trying to delegitimize Ron Paul's candidacy.  I think Ron Paul along with the campaign is just trying to throw all their energy into winning the republican nomination cause they know third party never wins presidency at least nowdays.




He definitely has the best chance for election with the Republican party,




L. Ron has no chance of winning either the nomination or the general election.  None.


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15281045 - 10/26/11 03:12 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Every candidate has a chance of election, even Bachman. I'll admit the probabilities are currently stacked against him, but you never know how the cards will play.

And I meant he has the best chance of winning the general election with the Republican party, instead of a third party.


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: mushiepussy]
    #15281177 - 10/26/11 03:44 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

He has no chance of winning either.  He's a fucking nut.


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15281236 - 10/26/11 03:59 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Bachman is a women, and I don't know who L. Ron is, we are talking about Ron Paul here.

Do you just discount every politician and label them as a nut? Or do you actually have an opinion about the specific candidates and their positions? It appears to be the former..


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: mushiepussy]
    #15281257 - 10/26/11 04:04 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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Bachman is a women, and I don't know who L. Ron is, we are talking about Ron Paul here.

Do you just discount every politician and label them as a nut? Or do you actually have an opinion about the specific candidates and their positions? It appears to be the former..




Anybody who has paid attention to me knows that I have examined the jerk-off extensively, specifically eviscerated his idiocy at all turns, and have done so for several years.  Bachman has nothing to do with anything.  I call him L. Ron because his supporters here are a mind numbed zombie army and suck his cock because of what they think he will do about drug laws, which he couldn't fucking do anyway.  He is a douche and he has no shot and I am eagerly awaiting the day he rides off into the sunset forever so I will not have to joust with his increasingly moronic supporters.


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #15281369 - 10/26/11 04:26 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Considering I haven't paid attention to you, are there any specific positions you care to discredit? You came in here starting shit, so back it up.

Also, I wasn't aware of his position on the drug war until after I had found merit with his stance on foreign policy, health care reform, national security, tax reform, and govt. overspending and his plan to reduce it. I support Ron Paul for simple reasons, his ideas and actions, and what they could do for our potentially great nation. I'm not one of the mind numb zombies, and I have taken a critical view of Paul before deciding to pledge my support.

You are just making general, personal assumptions.:nono:



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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: mushiepussy]
    #15281512 - 10/26/11 05:03 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

I didn't come in here just talking shit, several years ago Ythan permabanned me for chopping L. Ron's dick off and it isn't my fault you missed the lesson.  I don't really feel obligated to recite the entire zappaisgod ouvre every time some kid comes and professes a taste for his dick.  Why don't you just tell me what you think is so cool about the asshole and we can go from there?


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15281636 - 10/26/11 05:31 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I didn't come in here just talking shit, several years ago Ythan permabanned me for chopping L. Ron's dick off and it isn't my fault you missed the lesson.




Whose dick did you suck to get unpermabanned?


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #15281699 - 10/26/11 05:42 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

Nobody's.  Several people pointed out the error of his ways.


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Re: Ron Paul 2012 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15281716 - 10/26/11 05:46 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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I didn't come in here just talking shit, several years ago Ythan permabanned me for chopping L. Ron's dick off and it isn't my fault you missed the lesson.




Whose dick did you suck to get unpermabanned?





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Nobody's.  Several people pointed out the error of his ways.





That's his story and he's sticking to it.


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