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 Some little kats
#15196286 - 10/08/11 01:24 PM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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These are a few babies i'm growing on a windowsill. Not sure the exact type but they do not seem to be the narrow leaf variety. I have some more coming up and some outside. I should take a pic of a couple that are about 6' tall. I keep topping them or they would be way out of reach by now.
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Looking good. Surely the bottom right isn't Catha or if it is it is the most bizzare looking one I have ever seen.
Narrow leaf plants start out looking more broad-leaved anyway. The one in the back left looks like it might turn out to have narrow leaves.
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Re: Some little kats [Re: naum]
#15196897 - 10/08/11 04:04 PM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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Yes, the one in the right front is, upon closer examination, apparently a damiana. I see the kats i planted coming up below it so i'll just snip the dami. They do look like they will turn out to be kind of narrow leafed. I'll have a better pic later on. For now just ignore the big one in front.
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What's your soil composition, and hot often do you water, I've got 2 out of 3 (one isn't gonna make it) doing well, and on their second set of leaves, but they're not near as tall as yours. Gonna transfer to different pots real soon!
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Re: Some little kats [Re: fngbronco]
#15198430 - 10/08/11 10:35 PM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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i had a syrian rue plant come up in one of my catha babies it threw me through a loop for a little bit lol
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fng, i just use buck a bag potting soil, the good stuff. I add a little perlite to improve drainage. I have one outside which is about 6" tall plus the 2 grandaddy ones. I keep hoping one of them or both will flower but after 8 years or so, not a flower to be seen. Maybe one of these newer ones will flower some day? I'm going to have a shitload of seedlings pretty soon because i got good germ rates. Be sure to give them lots of sun.
Baron, i have loads of rue but haven't tried sprouting any lately. They are hard to grow and like harsh conditions. But they sure will sprout.
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Re: Some little kats [Re: fngbronco]
#15199837 - 10/09/11 10:09 AM (7 months, 16 days ago) |
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What's your soil composition, and hot often do you water, I've got 2 out of 3 (one isn't gonna make it) doing well, and on their second set of leaves, but they're not near as tall as yours. Gonna transfer to different pots real soon!
Check this for answers to your questions: http://www.plot55.com/growing/c.edulis.html
Khat hates soggy roots so don't water too much. I grew mine from seed in coarse sharp sand like I do with cactus seeds. Once they were starting to out grow their seedling trays I put them in a mix of 50% potting mix and 50% corase sharp sand. I water mine about twice a week (they are in quite small pots at the moment).
Also, don't plant them in an area where they can be seen from the street etc otherwise you'll get Africans jumping your fence and tearing your plant apart.
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Also, don't plant them in an area where they can be seen from the street etc otherwise you'll get Africans jumping your fence and tearing your plant apart.
Stonehenge, your khat plants are looking great 
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Re: Some little kats [Re: overstand]
#15208562 - 10/11/11 06:16 AM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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I think I read a story on here of someone who had to chop their khat tree down because of the amount of people who were stealing the plant material
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That would have been GoOnThen. See this thread for the story of his qat tree.
Fortunately in the US I doubt this is a big concern--Stoney's are in the back anyway, right? Also narrow-leaved plants are avoided by most groups, and I'm told even in Australia are free from the worry of being harvested unlike the more common types of qat.
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Re: Some little kats [Re: naum]
#15208681 - 10/11/11 07:18 AM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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That would have been GoOnThen. See this thread for the story of his qat tree.
Shit that was a year ago
It was a sad day 
I had four large pieces survive and they are all growing really well. So far two of the large plants and also a number of the smaller ones have been given new homes.
The crazy thing about this tree is its still ALIVE I had to go and hedge it the other day to keep it down under 3 feet.
I was sure it was dead but it started showing growth again in winter
Now I have to decide what to do with it again. 
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Re: Some little kats [Re: GoOnThen]
#15208924 - 10/11/11 08:33 AM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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I had some wide leaf plants but they died out along with my pereskiopsis. I thought most people prefer the narrow leaf anyway. No one knows what it is unless you tell people. That's the same way most indoor pot grows get busted, people shoot their mouth or show it to someone. Cops here have no idea what it is or if it's illegal and there are other common plants which look somewhat similar. In other countries it may be different. I've never heard of it for sale. fng, i thought that was funny too.
If anyone asked me what it was i'd say i got it at a yard sale and thought it looked pretty.
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That was mograine's post  but yeah that pretty funny shit lol
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Re: Some little kats [Re: fngbronco]
#15212788 - 10/12/11 06:45 AM (7 months, 14 days ago) |
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A friend of mine had Africans trespassing on his property lots to get his khat bush. We didn't even know what it was at the time.
My brother's friend had one in his front garden and an African guy knocked on his door and asked if he could have some. He asked him what it was for and the African guy told him it was medicine. He said he could take some. However, more and more people started coming and trespassing. They'd even stand on his car to get to stuff. He chopped it down and then some fucker had the nerve to knock on his door and abuse him for chopping it down. WTF!
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I assume you mean real africans and not the pc euphemism for black people. The blacks around here wouldn't know what it was if you told them. In parts of africa they do chew it every day. About as dangerous as coffee. I have countless plants in my yard front and back including many cacti, vines, bushes, etc and no one has ever asked what anything was or what it was used for. I believe khat use to be scheduled but despite looking hard for it, i have not been able to find anything outlawing the live plant.
They do bust shipments coming in but customs can bust anything, they can bust roses or coffee or anything they wish. It does not mean the items themselves are illegal. They might be packed wrong or not have documents. In the case of khat they look at intent same as poppies. You can grow all the poppies you want but don't let them catch you scoring the pods and making opium.
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Those lil khats are looking good man! How old are they?
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They are about a month old. I'll take a better pic some time. I should take a pic of my big ones.
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I assume you mean real africans and not the pc euphemism for black people. The blacks around here wouldn't know what it was if you told them. In parts of africa they do chew it every day. About as dangerous as coffee. I have countless plants in my yard front and back including many cacti, vines, bushes, etc and no one has ever asked what anything was or what it was used for. I believe khat use to be scheduled but despite looking hard for it, i have not been able to find anything outlawing the live plant.
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Yeah, they were African Africans. I used to have to deal with Indians (from India) stealing curry leaves from me which really got me angry since it'd wake me up at night and the tree was getting all fucked up. I was going to chop the thing down but then when I discovered that the guy who wanted to buy the place was a complete fuckwit I decided to leave it so he could deal with the same problem.
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Here is an updated photo. Some of the ones in back are 4" tall. There is more than one phenotype showing.
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Looking good. I've got four at the moment but one is a bit weak. The others are fine though. I can't wait until they're bigger.
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Does it provide euphoria at least? I read reports on erowid that it was quite the stimulant but if it's no stronger than coffee it must just be for looks then? Either way cool looking plants.
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Many report euphoria, its not the same as coffee. I should take a pic of my outside trees. I will be posting a pic today of another group of plants.
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Many report euphoria, its not the same as coffee. I should take a pic of my outside trees. I will be posting a pic today of another group of plants.
I would be interested in seeing some pics 
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Here are my 2 biggest plants. There is some underbrush lower down. What looks like a third kat in the middle is a branch from the one on the left. The plant in back has some red and orange leaves.
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Damn those are some big plants. So you haven't tried any?
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I've chewed a few leaves but i'm not into stims. i dont even drink coffee. The 2 big ones are over 6' and i've topped them several times or they might be twice that. No flowers yet and i doubt i'll get any but my caapi flowered and so did my voacanga one year so you never know. I'll post my latest caapi preflowers when the pic is ready.
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Here is an updated pic. Some have red stems, some are red all over. One little one is green and i forgot to include my big green one which is about 8". These are all seed grown. I just got a new batch of seed in.
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Looking good, I really like the one thats red all over.
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cold make them reddish like this ! really nice looking/healthy plants !
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Re: Some little kats [Re: sidvivius]
#15729522 - 01/28/12 01:21 PM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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I have seen cold make my outdoor plants turn red but these have been inside all winter. They seem to get redder with maturity. I see the ones with red stems and green leaves have some leaves starting to turn red. I think they will all turn red except the ones that are completely green.
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From what I've seen the cold only turns red plants (those with red stems and red new growth) redder/more purple. Plants with white/green stems don't turn red at all when exposed to the cold. In other words all of your plants except the one on the bottom right express the "red" phenotype and would have their leaves darken dramatically on exposure to the cold whereas the one on the bottom right would be relatively unaffected as it express the "green" phenotype.
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Re: Some little kats [Re: naum]
#15747247 - 02/01/12 12:00 PM (3 months, 25 days ago) |
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This is pretty sweet! I've always wanted to try some ever since a friend came back from Kenya raving about it. Growing looks like fun too. Do you live in the US? If it's not inappropriate, may I ask how you got ahold of one? No sources, just in general.
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What sort of lighting are you using for the indoor guys?
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I just set mine by the window but you can use floros. My outdoor ones have survived freezes but i dont know how much cold they can take.
What is interesting is my indoor ones have not been exposed to any cold and they are turning red. One is kind of beet red all over, you can see in the pic and the others are getting that way except for the green one. The leaves come in green and turn reddish.
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I use a fluro grow light for my khat seedlings and cacti seedlings etc. They cost next to nothing to run. My larger khat plants love full sun.
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When it turns red it's considered to be more potent. From what i've read. So you must be taking good care of them.
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