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 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered
#15195904 - 10/08/11 11:50 AM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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So much for second sight and warnings from dead ancestors. It turns out that shamanic visions are only in your head and do not come from another realm.
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Very sad, but to what you said about the visions is a a stereotype. They don't see into whatever future they choose, it is whatever is shown by their ancestors. There are also different types of shamans who focus only on learning and understanding the energy around us.
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So the ancestors wanted them to die? Did they need a fourth to play bridge or were they just lonely?
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Who said any of that?
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Shamans allegedly practice their craft for wisdom and protection. They obviously got neither.
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Shamans allegedly practice their craft for wisdom and protection. They obviously got neither.
Definition of wisdom: The quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment; the quality of being wise.
As for protection, I have never heard of that. I just know that they have a vast knowledge of plants and medicinal values of plants of the rain forest. Hence the other name of Medicine man, maybe your misconception of their "protection".
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Gee, why would I fabricate such a fantasy?
Shamanic healing is based on the idea that there are spirits. That is, non-physical entities that seem to be conscious, and that it's possible for some people to interact with them. In Shamanism, the specially skilled person (called the shaman) travels in trance to the worlds where the spirits live, with the mission of getting help or information, for healing his or her clients and the whole community. In particular, there are compassionate spirits that have an interest in helping humans reduce the load of suffering in this world. The shaman learns where in the spirit worlds to find these compassionate spirits, and develops a partnership with them for this work.
ShamanElder.com: A Shaman keeps a bubble of protection around him or herself at all times.
Shamanista.com: Some people seem to have protection almost automatically, perhaps because it was built in to their early training without much/any discussion, and they learned to put up protection without consciously thinking of it.
Sometimes protection seems to be inherent in a person’s character, karma, or personality, but it still is best to know how to do protection consciously. Everyone needs to know how to respond to unusual situations, teach those who need protection how to get it, and so on.
In indigenous cultures protection is likely to be built into shamanic practice, so that it doesn’t have to be discussed or learned separately. But for modern Europeans and Americans, brought up in a dualistic, materialist culture, such practices are generally not automatic. They are not traditional for us, and so we have to adopt and use them consciously.
Protection is like any other skill. First you have to learn how, and then it takes conscious, systematic practice until it becomes automatic.
BodySpiritAwareness.com: Spiritual Healing
Shamanic healing is almost always done in close partnership with the shaman's helping spirits. The shaman relies on these compassionate spirits for information, guidance, power, and protection. The spirits rely on the shaman as a physical intermediary and compassionate helper, and often make use of traditional healing methods explained below.
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Awww, it's nice to see you having a good day OC.
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 Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: Cups]
#15196182 - 10/08/11 12:57 PM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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I spent $1500 on a protective amulet, now I have to watch my back!
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I spent $1500 on a protective amulet, now I have to watch my back!
You should have bought...
....wait for it...
...the watch! 
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I spent $1500 on a protective amulet, now I have to watch my back!
I went to Shaman U. Cost me a lot in tuition but now I am working a full time job.
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: LunarEclipse]
#15196315 - 10/08/11 01:33 PM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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You still at the drive-thru window?
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You still at the drive-thru window?
No but I am still the Booger King.
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So much for second sight and warnings from dead ancestors. It turns out that shamanic visions are only in your head and do not come from another realm.
Who'd a thunk?
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: Icelander]
#15196360 - 10/08/11 01:43 PM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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Only 90% of trippers under the age of 24.
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I plan on selling them real-estate. 
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― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: Icelander]
#15196376 - 10/08/11 01:47 PM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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There is a guy online who has made over a million selling real estate on the moon and another has made a fortune naming stars after customers. I hear the asteroid field is wide open still.
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There is a guy online who has made over a million selling real estate on the moon and another has made a fortune naming stars after customers. I hear the asteroid field is wide open still.
Many will pay for even a little ass ter oid.
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Re: 14 Peruvian Shamans Murdered [Re: LunarEclipse]
#15196420 - 10/08/11 01:57 PM (7 months, 17 days ago) |
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Keep trying. The day is still young and you might score one before sundown.
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Keep trying. The day is still young and you might score one before sundown.
OK Slim.
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