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Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries
    #15187749 - 10/06/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:feelsbadman:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MEDICAL_MARIJUANA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-10-06-16-20-34

Feds target Calif. pot dispensaries for closure


SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Federal prosecutors have launched a crackdown on pot dispensaries in California, warning the stores that they must shut down in 45 days or face criminal charges and confiscation of their property even if they are operating legally under the state's 15-year-old medical marijuana law.

In an escalation of the ongoing conflict between the U.S. government and the nation's burgeoning medical marijuana industry, at least 16 pot shops or their landlords received letters this week stating they are violating federal drug laws, even though medical marijuana is legal in California. The state's four U.S. attorneys were scheduled Friday to announce a broader coordinated crackdown.

Their offices refused Thursday to confirm the closure orders. The Associated Press obtained copies of the letters that a prosecutor sent to at least 12 San Diego dispensaries. They state that federal law "takes precedence over state law and applies regardless of the particular uses for which a dispensary is selling and distributing marijuana."

"Under United States law, a dispensary's operations involving sales and distribution of marijuana are illegal and subject to criminal prosecution and civil enforcement actions," according to the letters signed by U.S. Attorney Laura Duffy in San Diego. "Real and personal property involved in such operations are subject to seizure by and forfeiture to the United States ... regardless of the purported purpose of the dispensary."

The move comes a little more than two months after the Obama administration toughened its stand on medical marijuana. For two years before that, federal officials had indicated they would not move aggressively against dispensaries in compliance with laws in the 16 states where pot is legal for people with doctors' recommendations.

The Department of Justice issued a policy memo to federal prosecutors in late June stating that marijuana dispensaries and licensed growers in states with medical marijuana laws could face prosecution for violating federal drug and money-laundering laws. The effort to shutter California dispensaries appeared to be the most far-reaching effort so far to put that guidance into action.

"This really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. The administration is simply making good on multiple threats issued since President Obama took office," said Kevin Sabet, a former adviser to the president's drug czar and a fellow at the University of Pennsylvania's Center for Substance Abuse Solutions. "The challenge is to balance the scarcity of law enforcement resources and the sanctity of this country's medication approval process. It seems like the administration is simply making good on multiple statements made previously to appropriately strike that balance."

Greg Anton, a lawyer who represents dispensary Marin Alliance for Medical Marijuana, said its landlord received an "extremely threatening" letter Wednesday invoking a federal law that imposes additional penalties for selling drugs within 1,000 feet of schools, parks and playgrounds.

The landlord was ordered to evict the 14-year-old pot club or risk imprisonment, plus forfeiture of the property and all the rent he has collected while the dispensary has been in business, Anton said.

Marin Alliance's founder "has been paying state and federal taxes for 14 years, and they have cashed all the checks," he said. "All I hear from Obama is whining about his budget, but he has money to do this which will actually reduce revenues."

Kris Hermes, a spokesman for the medical marijuana advocacy group Americans for Safe Access, said the warnings are part of what appears to be an attempt by the Obama administration to curb medical marijuana on multiple fronts and through multiple agencies. A series of dispensary raids in Montana, for example, involved agents from not only the FBI and U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency, but the Internal Revenue Service and Environmental Protection Agency.

Going after property owners is not a new tactic though, Hermes said. Five years ago, the Department of Justice under President George W. Bush made similar threats to about 300 Los Angeles-area landlords who were renting space to medical marijuana outlets, some of whom were eventually evicted or closed their doors voluntarily, he said.

"It did have an impact. However, the federal government never acted on its threats, never prosecuted anybody, never even went to court to begin prosecutions," Hermes said. "By and large, they were empty threats, but they relied on them and the cost of postage to shut down as many facilities as they could without having to engage in criminal enforcement activity."

Besides the dozen dispensaries in San Diego and the one in Marin County, at least three shops in San Francisco already have received closure notices, said Dale Gieringer, director of the California chapter of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws.

The San Diego medical marijuana outlets put on notice were the same 12 that city officials sued last month for operating illegally, after activists there threatened to force an election on a zoning plan adopted to regulate the city's fast-growing medical marijuana industry, City Attorney Jan Goldsmith said. A judge on Wednesday ordered nine of the targeted shops to close, while the other three shut down voluntarily, Goldsmith said.

Duffy, the U.S. attorney for far Southern California, planned to issue warning letters to property owners and all of the 180 or so dispensaries that have proliferated in San Diego in the absence of compromise regulations, according to Goldsmith.

"The real power is with the federal government," he said. "They have the asset forfeiture, and that means either the federal government will own a lot of property or these landlords will evict a lot of dispensaries."

(sorry if this is a repost, I search but didn't find anything)


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667] * 1
    #15187755 - 10/06/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

And so it begins.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667] * 6
    #15187759 - 10/06/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

All they're doing is pushing the entire market underground. Black market politics. Congrats idiots.

And fuck you Obama.

Edited by PatrickKn (10/06/11 05:25 PM)

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: PatrickKn]
    #15187769 - 10/06/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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All they're doing is pushing the entire market underground. Black market politics. Congrats idiots.

And fuck you Obama.




well you can't profit off incarcerating people for something that's legal.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667]
    #15187772 - 10/06/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

No. Why?:sad:


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: thoughts]
    #15187776 - 10/06/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I know it's overused but....'Merica!

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: PatrickKn]
    #15187780 - 10/06/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Holy moly.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: fatppl12]
    #15187784 - 10/06/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This is huge news. Colorado is next I bet. Events have been leading up to this. Ridiculous.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: fatppl12]
    #15187798 - 10/06/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

didnt see that coming..


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: PatrickKn]
    #15187804 - 10/06/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

so fucking ridiculous.

Take 70 years to get one half-assed way of ingesting a plant, a majority of people support the legislation, yet the federal government has to come save the day.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #15187815 - 10/06/11 05:33 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm sure they won't stop at California... If this does indeed happen it'll be the end of medical cannabis in the usa. :frown:


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #15187828 - 10/06/11 05:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i still think all this horseshit is going to end some day.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #15187832 - 10/06/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What the fuck?

Damn, I was furious when I started to read it.. by the end I felt sad, and less free than I already am.:feelsbadman:

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667]
    #15187839 - 10/06/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

There are always raids on these...one goes down like 5-10 pop up.

I wouldn't worry too much.


Most of the ones I've seen that get raid are the ones skirting the lines of the law.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667]
    #15187840 - 10/06/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This is a sad day in history.:sad:


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Solo_Dolo]
    #15187850 - 10/06/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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There are always raids on these...one goes down like 5-10 pop up.

I wouldn't worry too much.


Most of the ones I've seen that get raid are the ones skirting the lines of the law.



I don't think so. Legal battles are going to slow them to a halt. They'll get them on everything from tax evasion to federal drug charges.

It's going back underground. Backwards fucking idiots.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: ButteredToast]
    #15187859 - 10/06/11 05:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

And, another big governmental fuck you to good people in California.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Devlish2]
    #15187878 - 10/06/11 05:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

good thing Obama kept to his word, sayin the feds will stop raiding dispensary.  :facepalm: :mad2:





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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: ButteredToast]
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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Sticky Green] * 2
    #15187893 - 10/06/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Disgusting. Can we all just fucking vote Ron Paul?  If you dont the drug wars just gonna get worse along with all our other freedom.





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    #15187896 - 10/06/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Obama is the face but let us remember the forces behind it.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Sticky Green]
    #15187902 - 10/06/11 05:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

This coupled with the horrible news about the Netherlands.

FUCKKKKK


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: propensity]
    #15187905 - 10/06/11 05:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You know Obama's a pussy.  Hes doing this because Marijuana is trumping his online questions.

Edited by skatealex2 (10/06/11 05:50 PM)

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: skatealex2]
    #15187926 - 10/06/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Obama is the face but let us remember the forces behind it.



Agreed.

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You know Obama's a pussy.  Hes doing this because Marijuana is trumping his online questions.



Yeah a question he can ignore or give a piss poor answer to is drinving him to go after Ca. dispensaries. That must be it.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 4runner]
    #15187930 - 10/06/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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You know Obama's a pussy.  Hes doing this because Marijuana is trumping his online questions.



Yeah a question he can ignore or give a piss poor answer to is drinving him to go after Ca. dispensaries. That must be it.





No that is not just it but he is trying to appear tough on the issue to brainwashed sheeple and its good for the employees over at the little known terrorist orginization called the dea.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: skatealex2]
    #15187934 - 10/06/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i dont know what to say

ignoring the lies
isnt this totally out of bounds for the federal government i mean i know mj is illegal under fed law but the state democratically voted for dispensary's

and why now and not when they first started opening

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Duffy, the U.S. attorney for far Southern California, planned to issue warning letters to property owners and all of the 180 or so dispensaries that have proliferated in San Diego in the absence of compromise regulations, according to Goldsmith.




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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Micawber]
    #15187950 - 10/06/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Fucking tyrants. Thats all I can say. We need some real CHANGE, and I doubt itll come from the lying prick in the oval office.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Micawber]
    #15187954 - 10/06/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Probably because now that they've been around a while, they've accumulated a nice chunk of change for the federal government to steal.

It's all about the :money:


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: mukhail]
    #15187961 - 10/06/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

and doesnt cali have some of the worst debt for a state in the us?

even if they don't carry through with their plans it will sure keep other from wanting to open shop

way to kill revenue


on the other hand i wonder if it would have gone this far if people hadn't abused the medical mj system


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: skatealex2]
    #15187971 - 10/06/11 06:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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You know Obama's a pussy.  Hes doing this because Marijuana is trumping his online questions.



Yeah a question he can ignore or give a piss poor answer to is drinving him to go after Ca. dispensaries. That must be it.





No that is not just it but he is trying to appear tough on the issue to brainwashed sheeple and its good for the employees over at the little known terrorist orginization called the dea.




So he is trying to get the undecided and libertarian vote then? Him acting tough does nothing for him.At least from what I hear from the more left of center population. But it could be my west coast upbringing, maybe things are different or for those voting in other regions. He sure as hell isn't getting any right wingers.

Can't disagree with the DEA comment, they need their work, hell they just raided a legal grow a few miles from me. (as seen on shroomery news)

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Micawber] * 1
    #15187980 - 10/06/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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ignoring the lies
isnt this totally out of bounds for the federal government i mean i know mj is illegal under fed law but the state democratically voted for dispensary's

and why now and not when they first started opening





They'll use the commerce clause and tax law to justify raids and avoid it being illegal and out of bounds.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: PatrickKn] * 2
    #15188002 - 10/06/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I can't believe what I read. I heard that they were going to stop federal raids on dispensaries. :nonono: I guess not.

Now I'm angry. :crankey:


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: PatrickKn] * 3
    #15188013 - 10/06/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I just am so angry right now. I dont even know how to articulate it verbally. I know voting will probably achieve nothing promising, and theres to many idiots for a real revolt.

I denounce the federal government. If I ever face arrest, im defending my freedom with my life. This country is a fucking dictatorship behind a thin veil of democracy.

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    #15188065 - 10/06/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What a tremendous waste of resources.  I've been benefiting from Cali medical even in FL.  What a tragedy.  :rebelride:


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: mukhail]
    #15188083 - 10/06/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys...


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    #15188093 - 10/06/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news guys...



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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: All We Perceive] * 1
    #15188114 - 10/06/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

So try are spending more gov money and increasing the unemployment rate at the same time.Ugh.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Solo_Dolo]
    #15188158 - 10/06/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This really pisses me off. I cannot believe that its coming down to this again! Fuck Obama! Fuck this rotten excuse we call a "government". We as a people are being manipulated, cheated and lied too.... FUCK!!!! :crankey:


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 2Cents] * 3
    #15188177 - 10/06/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck you Obama, going to burn one down right now.

Gonna have to block out the sun to stop the plants from growing. :ganja:

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: ButteredToast] * 1
    #15188189 - 10/06/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Oh. no. Where will I find hugely overpriced marijuana now?

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 2
    #15188218 - 10/06/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Its the fact of the matter man, its not about the dispensaries. Its about our right to pay too much for a bag of weed if we so please.


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    #15188221 - 10/06/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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    #15188241 - 10/06/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This thread needed some pix....






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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Salomon]
    #15188254 - 10/06/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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:ronpaul:
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The system's potential for abuse and the people that do, are gonna magically disappear if you just vote this cocksucker in!
















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    #15188282 - 10/06/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

whole system has to change.  too much opportunity for corruption.



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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 3
    #15188293 - 10/06/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i didn't say that.


but it seems to me that he would do more good than bad.



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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Salomon] * 1
    #15188328 - 10/06/11 07:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Time for a...


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #15188374 - 10/06/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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:ronpaul:
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:lmafo:



The system's potential for abuse and the people that do, are gonna magically disappear if you just vote this cocksucker in!
















yea, right.




It would depend on how strict the he believes the executive branch must enforce the laws passed by Congress.  He's been consistent in thinking it's not the government's place to control drugs and the President has 100% control over what and how laws are enforced.

It doesn't matter though because there's absolutely no chance he gets elected.

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    #15188385 - 10/06/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

if a leader was gonna make any real changes , they would take him out..... Look at jfk

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    #15188401 - 10/06/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Even if he did, congress would stonewall him and drag every attack on the status qou, on for ridiculous lengths of time.

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Even if he did, congress would stonewall him and drag every attack on the status qou, on for ridiculous lengths of time.




I'm not sure he would, but a President is fully capable of ordering the DEA to fuck off.  Congress could impeach him for it, but in the world where enough people got together to get him elected, I'm not sure they would be willing to.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: MelloRed]
    #15188446 - 10/06/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

They dispensaries down in Michigan as well. We protested in Lansing in September:

The wolf is at the door friends.

Soon Medical Marijuana may either be a thing of the past, or only available to people at deaths door.


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    #15188484 - 10/06/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Our protesting might not do us any good either. Until we turn it into a revolt. The will of the people is being ignored. We are pissed.

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    #15188516 - 10/06/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



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Our protesting might not do us any good either. Until we turn it into a revolt. The will of the people is being ignored. We are pissed.

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    #15188550 - 10/06/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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A contradiction. :lmafo:




Indeed. They lie to get what they want, and what they want is us in prison. Keeps the system moving along, and the free-thinkers behind bars or too afraid to "come out of the closet".

I've seen pictures of that stuff too. It comes in a coffee-can looking thing, and looks like green dookie. That's NOT medical Cannabis, that's street-schwag.


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    #15188566 - 10/06/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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:ronpaul:
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:lmafo:



The system's potential for abuse and the people that do, are gonna magically disappear if you just vote this cocksucker in!












 



yea, right.




It would depend on how strict the he believes the executive branch must enforce the laws passed by Congress.  He's been consistent in thinking it's not the government's place to control drugs and the President has 100% control over what and how laws are enforced.

It doesn't matter though because there's absolutely no chance he gets elected.






Damn I guess the media really is fooling all of you.  If every marijuana smoker, libertarian, Ron Paul supporter, people who support ending the wars, ending the war on drugs and everyone sick of the status quo voted, Ron Paul could easily win the nominee. 


Ron Paul versus Obama I think Obama would get schooled.  That fucker doesn't even follow the government's own rule of law but apparently no one gives a fuck.


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    #15188851 - 10/06/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Dimethyltryptamine]
    #15188902 - 10/06/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I seriously will never get this shit.

It makes my head hurt...like WTF,all these fucking pills are allowed to be produced legally that kill over 100k people a year...alcohol kills 100k...tabacoo kills 250k... a plant that has never killed one person is illegal...


Ugh.So is this gonna spread to every state??

We just passed this bill last year in AZ?
Is the vote to make marijuana 100%legal in cali still gonna be on the next elections?


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Solo_Dolo]
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I seriously will never get this shit.

It makes my head hurt...like WTF,all these fucking pills are allowed to be produced legally that kill over 100k people a year...alcohol kills 100k...tabacoo kills 250k... a plant that has never killed one person is illegal...


Ugh.So is this gonna spread to every state??

We just passed this bill last year in AZ?
Is the vote to make marijuana 100%legal in cali still gonna be on the next elections?





First question is to be determined i guess.    As for the second I guess we'll have to see how the states react.  I kind of hope it turns into a battle cause the government has no right to be bossing states around.  Fuck.  The medical dispensaries should get tanks and just shoot out the terrorist orginization dea if they try to shut them down.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: skatealex2] * 3
    #15189089 - 10/06/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Dear Fed Gov,

Thank you so much for increasing our market share in the extremely-lucrative cannabis market. Please allow us to give nothing in return.

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    #15189130 - 10/06/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with the Ron Paul idea, however I feel there is a larger picture to this thread. The united stated government are in all areas of our lives. Our civil liberties are being taken away daily. The article clearly states that business's in long standing operation within limits of the law have been targeted, yet people make excuses, ie:"most shops that get shut down didn't follow blah blah", or "who cares, 15 more open". The fucking point is that the world, more specifically the people of the united states are held hostage by the illusion of freedom.We are held in a perpetual zeitgeist by global elitist. People are like sheep. When one escapes the others dare not go for fear of what the owner/mast will do, the other half stay because of what their peers will think. All the while, time and time again, only several sheep break from the heard for safety and freedom.....I'm done....thanks

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: jadeferguson]
    #15189179 - 10/06/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Will this mean all taxes already taken will be returned? Since it was illegal to take it in the first place apparently.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: jadeferguson]
    #15189185 - 10/06/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Aren't there thousands of dispensaries in CA?

They sent a letter to 12 of them?

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    #15189202 - 10/06/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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All they're doing is pushing the entire market underground. Black market politics. Congrats idiots.

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    #15189227 - 10/06/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

fuck weed. shit makes you lazy and apathetic.

HOWEVER

voters made their decision and an arm of the executive branch is countering this decision. this is a troubling day for democracy. troubling, indeed.


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    #15189383 - 10/06/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

depends on what kind of weed your smoking.....unless of course your a pussy ....-cough-cough-in a low voicedeltron...  just teasing man

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    #15189406 - 10/06/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

idk man. i spent years smoking weed everyday. the comedown makes you sleepy and unless your smokin bowls every 10 minutes, you don't feel like doin shit...

i've found myself being way more productive on amphetamine, cocaine, and even alcohol.

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idk man. i spent years smoking weed everyday. the comedown makes you sleepy and unless your smokin bowls every 10 minutes, you don't feel like doin shit...

i've found myself being way more productive on amphetamine, cocaine, and even alcohol.

idk, must just be me. but maybe it's yall like getting high too much to admit it.




Every 10 minutes??!lol...what you smoking swag??

And I will admit...I love getting high.I can be just as productive high as sober..shit I work high most of the time lol.


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:ronpaul:
2012





:lmafo:



The system's potential for abuse and the people that do, are gonna magically disappear if you just vote this cocksucker in!












 



yea, right.




It would depend on how strict the he believes the executive branch must enforce the laws passed by Congress.  He's been consistent in thinking it's not the government's place to control drugs and the President has 100% control over what and how laws are enforced.

It doesn't matter though because there's absolutely no chance he gets elected.






Damn I guess the media really is fooling all of you.  If every marijuana smoker, libertarian, Ron Paul supporter, people who support ending the wars, ending the war on drugs and everyone sick of the status quo voted, Ron Paul could easily win the nominee. 


Ron Paul versus Obama I think Obama would get schooled.  That fucker doesn't even follow the government's own rule of law but apparently no one gives a fuck.






If its so damn simple why has nothing been done?

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #15189571 - 10/06/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Do you all actually think that they're going to shut down all of the dispensaries?

And there is no way I'd vote for anyone solely based on their drug views. Sorry, Ron Paul.

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:lmafo:



The system's potential for abuse and the people that do, are gonna magically disappear if you just vote this cocksucker in!












 



yea, right.




It would depend on how strict the he believes the executive branch must enforce the laws passed by Congress.  He's been consistent in thinking it's not the government's place to control drugs and the President has 100% control over what and how laws are enforced.

It doesn't matter though because there's absolutely no chance he gets elected.






Damn I guess the media really is fooling all of you.  If every marijuana smoker, libertarian, Ron Paul supporter, people who support ending the wars, ending the war on drugs and everyone sick of the status quo voted, Ron Paul could easily win the nominee. 


Ron Paul versus Obama I think Obama would get schooled.  That fucker doesn't even follow the government's own rule of law but apparently no one gives a fuck.






If its so damn simple why has nothing been done?





Not saying its that simple but stuff is being done.  October 19th - Black This Out Money Bomb.  Aiming to raise $6,000,000 in one day by grassroot supporters for the campaign.  A lot of Ron Paul fans are spreading the word wherever they can for the money bomb. 

Already 1,000's of people are joining for the moneybomb.  October 19th should show if the campaign still has a lot of momentum if it is a success.

www.blackthisout.com 

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=181997088537471

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    #15189582 - 10/06/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Do you all actually think that they're going to shut down all of the dispensaries?

And there is no way I'd vote for anyone solely based on their drug views. Sorry, Ron Paul.





Besides the war on drugs, hel would end all the other wars, bring the troops home and save trillions of dollars - which means economic boost, less taxes.  He would also end programs such as the patriot act which basically gives the government permission to tap our phones and spy on us on the internet, and the TSA which gives government agents the right to grope us at airports.

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    #15189613 - 10/06/11 11:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Didnt obama say something about bringing troops home :hmm:

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Besides the war on drugs, personally I like that Ron Paul would end all the other wars, bring the troops home and save trillions of dollars - which means economic boost, less taxes.  I also like that he would end programs such as the patriot act which basically gives the government permission to tap our phones and spy on us on the internet.




I have a lot of ideological differences with him on economics. Though I do admit that I would consider registering Republican and voting for him if he got the Republican nomination just to see what would happen.

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    #15189656 - 10/06/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

After he sent thousands more in at the start of his term.

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    #15189687 - 10/06/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

That is true. But I feel that the US military strategy has been decently effective considering the mess that the administration inherited.

Regardless, that is straying from the main topic here. I believe that the Obama administration has been way too open to conservative influence. Maybe for reelection purposes but that doesn't exactly work because people are going to complain no matter what. And I stand by the idea that marijuana law reform is a second term issue in modern politics. Obama has repeatedly supported states' rights in these issues. He needs to be more aggressive.

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Goddamn it! :mad2: The dispenseries offer variety.


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    #15189738 - 10/07/11 12:18 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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That is true. But I feel that the US military strategy has been decently effective considering the mess that the administration inherited.

Regardless, that is straying from the main topic here. I believe that the Obama administration has been way too open to conservative influence. Maybe for reelection purposes but that doesn't exactly work because people are going to complain no matter what. And I stand by the idea that marijuana law reform is a second term issue in modern politics. Obama has repeatedly supported states' rights in these issues. He needs to be more aggressive.





Lol man.  He clearly doesn't support states rights with these issues.

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    #15190694 - 10/07/11 09:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

GUys guys.....dont you see whats going on here? The Government is simply creating more jobs! Now the illegal drug trade can continue, and people can support their families being marijuana farmers.


we owe the federal government a huge thank you. Places like Humboldt, mendocino and Trinity will be able to survive :rockon:


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #15190745 - 10/07/11 09:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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All they're doing is pushing the entire market underground. Black market politics. Congrats idiots.

And fuck you Obama.




well you can't profit off incarcerating people for something that's legal.



there sure do!!! prison is big $$$$

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Madcaps]
    #15190815 - 10/07/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This is great. All the government is doing with this is creating a catalyst for federal legalization.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: PatrickKn]
    #15191197 - 10/07/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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There are always raids on these...one goes down like 5-10 pop up.

I wouldn't worry too much.


Most of the ones I've seen that get raid are the ones skirting the lines of the law.



I don't think so. Legal battles are going to slow them to a halt. They'll get them on everything from tax evasion to federal drug charges.

It's going back underground. Backwards fucking idiots.




doubt it. They can take down a few big name, high profile dispensaries; however, dispensaries pop up like wildfire here. Lest we not forget the thousands upon thousands of mobile dispensaries. Lets face it, freedom has already been let out of the bag. There is no taking it back now.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667]
    #15191219 - 10/07/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm sure they won't stop at California... If this does indeed happen it'll be the end of medical cannabis in the usa. :frown:




Well, they also don't have the power to outright unhinge local law, so they'll just need to hide the weed better and sell it behind closed doors.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: CarnivalBarker]
    #15191527 - 10/07/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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This is great. All the government is doing with this is creating a catalyst for federal legalization.




Maybe this will inspire for the medical patients to vote for full legalization of weed  next time its on the ballet.
This may inspire more fuel for the fully legal movement:shrug:

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: i like cow poo]
    #15191667 - 10/07/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You gotta wonder what these guys think when they draw these laws up. "God I hate those nice non-violent medical marijuana sellers that pay all their taxes and follow the law. Wanna know who should really control the marijuana industry? Those violent cartels that dont give the government shit and murder our constituents...wait a second....I'm IN the government and can make that happen! Damn I amaze even myself sometimes..."


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    #15191677 - 10/07/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Salomon]
    #15191774 - 10/07/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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DEA Going to Federal Court for Blocking Medical Marijuana Research
The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is being sued by the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies for upholding a monopoly on research marijuana and for blocking medical marijuana studies.
   
The Santa Cruz-based Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) will be taking the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) to federal court for upholding a monopoly on research marijuana, and for blocking valuable medical research into the benefits of the herb that could save many lives.

On August 15, the DEA issued its final order, rejecting the 2007 recommendation from their own Administrative Law Judge, Mary Ellen Bittner, that it would be in the public interest to grant University of Massachusetts Professor Lyle Craker a license to grow marijuana for federally-regulated medical research.

This  misguided action by the DEA, which came after four long years of waiting, preserves an unconstitutional monopoly held by the National Institute of Drug Abuse (NIDA) on the supply of marijuana for medical research. The DEA’s strategy appears to be to delay their responses for as long as possible, and to block research that demonstrates any medical benefits of cannabis.

The final order by the DEA allows them to block medical studies with cannabis that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has already approved, despite the Obama administration’s stated commitment to prioritize science over politics when it came to medical marijuana.

For example, the proposed posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) study with cannabis that I reported on back in May, with 50 war veterans who suffer from chronic, treatment- resistant PTSD is at a standstill--despite the fact that the study was approved by the FDA--because NIDA is blocking the study by not allowing the researchers to purchase marijuana.

At this point the mountain of evidence for the medical benefits of cannabis is simply exploding through the roof, and more and more states are continuing to legalize cannabis for medical use, so the federal government’s draconian position on medical marijuana and their blockade on research is beginning to look more and more ridiculous. Even President Obama appears to be at a loss for words, and doesn’t seem to know what to say about it when he is confronted.
During a Town Hall meeting on August 15 with President Obama, he was asked, “If you can't legalize marijuana, why can’t we just legalize medical marijuana, to help the people that need it?” Obama responded by saying, “Well, you know, a lot of states are making decisions about medical marijuana. As a controlled substance, the issue then is, you know, is it being prescribed by a doctor, as opposed to, you know--well, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll leave it at that.”
MAPS has received a generous offer for pro-bono legal representation from the Washington, D.C. law firm Covington & Burling LLP, one of the foremost law firms representing the pharmaceutical industry.

According to MAPS Director of Communications Brad Burge, “The DEA’s defense of NIDA’s monopoly has blocked privately-funded medical marijuana research for four decades. Now, the gap between what patients and scientists know about marijuana’s medical value and what these agencies are willing to acknowledge is wider than ever. This latest rejection highlights how far these agencies are willing to go to prevent vital research from moving forward.

But there’s good news, too: By showing how far they’ll go to block this research, NIDA and the DEA have inadvertently strengthened our case against the NIDA monopoly. The federal courts are the perfect stage for showing the world that in the centuries-old battle between irrational fear and careful scientific investigation, there is a clear winner.”

To find out more about MAPS, or to make a contribution to help further medical cannabis and psychedelic drug therapy research, see: www.maps.org



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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667] * 1
    #15191968 - 10/07/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The only thing surprising about this... is that any of you are surprised by this. If you didn't see it coming, you weren't looking.

Obama is a lying fuck. Congress is populated by assholes.

What did you expect? That the will of the people would count for something?

Hey! I have an idea. Go sign another internet petition that won't count for shit.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #15192086 - 10/07/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Didnt obama say something about bringing troops home :hmm:




yeah and he is being a pussy about it.

He lied before (promised to bring them home right away, gets into office only to send 17000 more out), he is probably just lying again

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667]
    #15192283 - 10/07/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

They only way they'll take my medicine away is over my cold dead body.
I'm in Michigan and the laws changed a tiny bit but it's still super easy to get your medicine here, deliveries are the new thing. It doesn't look like it's gonna get any worse here, only better hopefully.


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    #15192365 - 10/07/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Lol at all you silly fucks who are just like

OMG Y U DO THIS OBAMA

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: propensity] * 1
    #15193166 - 10/07/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

That's not true. Obama appoints the head of the DEA and the appoints the people who make these decisions. Congress didn't mandate this letter, Obama's advisors did. If Ron Paul was President he could easily appoint someone from NORML of whatever who agree's with his opinions.

Ron Paul is very outspoken about drug prohibition and is extremely sympathetic (especially as a Dr.) towards the medical program.
and he is Mr. Free Market, government intervention in a thriving industry goes strongly against his beliefs

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #15193438 - 10/07/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

This realy is shit, Im glad I dont live in a med state now, to have it and then have it taken away is worse than to not have it at all.  The only sliver of solace I will get from this horrible shit is getting to mock all the weed snobs who act as if your dog shit unless you live in california and have a med card and act holier than thou but that is hardly a consolation.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: PeterGriffin467]
    #15193573 - 10/07/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Everyone wonted change, didnt stay what kind of change....:huxleyfacepalm:

Let's see it brings in say 225 mil in taxes alone, let's close them down....:nonono:

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: skatealex2]
    #15193787 - 10/07/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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You know Obama's a pussy.  Hes doing this because Marijuana is trumping his online questions.




Well obviously Obama is a pussy. while George Bush was kind of ballsy.

But to be honest, they are both fucking fucktard dipshit morons who can't tie their shoes and shouldn't be driving a car, none the less running the country as president. however, I think Obama is smart enough to tie at least one shoe, George Bush was kind of a dip shit though, and think Obama's i.q. is one point smarter :smirk:


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: propensity]
    #15194078 - 10/07/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Lol at all you silly fucks who are just like

OMG Y U DO THIS OBAMA

It doesn't matter who is president. It won't make a difference.





agreed. 


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: skatealex2]
    #15194192 - 10/08/11 12:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I LOL at the federal govt, federal law supersedes state law my dick...
They are grasping at straws here.
Cannabis has more acceptance now than it ever has in the last 70 years,
Medical programs are opening up all over the country..
California is not going to just take it sitting down.
More likely they will come in and try and shut down half the dispensaries then when they leave twice as many pop up.

They know their reign of terror is coming to an end and they are just holding on to whatever power they think they can grasp.
Striking at CA first to try and spread the fear..
Anything to 'maintain control' and delay the fucking inevitable.
This shit will not end well for them.
People are already pissed enough about the economy.
Now they are going to add this to mix and make things 10 x worse?
Marijuana is like CA's #2 money maker. The shit will not just go away.
Ha. Fucking noobs.
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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Shroomism] * 2
    #15194226 - 10/08/11 12:09 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Ron Paul is the only candidate who does not have interests on Wall street. He is the only candidate who would seriously challenge the federal reserve system which is what has bankrupt the United States. Why the hell would anyone with a hint of common sense vote for anyone but Ron Paul? Oh I remember...all the people caught in the matrix

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #15194269 - 10/08/11 12:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
The only thing surprising about this... is that any of you are surprised by this. If you didn't see it coming, you weren't looking.

Obama is a lying fuck. Congress is populated by assholes.

What did you expect? That the will of the people would count for something?

Hey! I have an idea. Go sign another internet petition that won't count for shit.




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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #15194353 - 10/08/11 12:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

this is like alcohol prohibition in more ways then one, all that dupont pesticide filling up your lungs

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Konyap]
    #15194766 - 10/08/11 04:53 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

tl;dr

Did you guys really not see this coming?

And really, did you not see luvdemshrooms's cynical but logical and realistic viewpoint?

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667]
    #15196367 - 10/08/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

California's not going to take this lying down, the state is defending the pot clubs. I don't think the feds are going to have their way TBH. They've been trying to get us to stop from the beginning but it's just not in their power. They will have to give up someday. :shrug:


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    #15198543 - 10/09/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Lol at all you silly fucks who are just like

OMG Y U DO THIS OBAMA

It doesn't matter who is president. It won't make a difference.





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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 404]
    #15201754 - 10/09/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You know you could all pick up a dammmm phone and contact your local representatives and flame the hell out of them and Obama's reelection center with requests to support the upcoming issue of moving marijuana to a schedule 2...

go here and find your state  rep and start calling dam you do something don't just bitch, bitch where it might itch.
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/congress/phone-numbers-and-mailing-addresses-memb.html

or if you have no clue who your state reps are then go here click on your state and call them over and over. Have your friends call. Have their friends call. Dammit if we can occupy wall street then lets use some of that momentum and flood the reps messaging services with requests to end the war on a humble plant....
http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Shroomism]
    #15202882 - 10/09/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I LOL at the federal govt, federal law supersedes state law my dick...
They are grasping at straws here.
Cannabis has more acceptance now than it ever has in the last 70 years,
Medical programs are opening up all over the country..
California is not going to just take it sitting down.
More likely they will come in and try and shut down half the dispensaries then when they leave twice as many pop up.

They know their reign of terror is coming to an end and they are just holding on to whatever power they think they can grasp.
Striking at CA first to try and spread the fear..
Anything to 'maintain control' and delay the fucking inevitable.
This shit will not end well for them.
People are already pissed enough about the economy.
Now they are going to add this to mix and make things 10 x worse?
Marijuana is like CA's #2 money maker. The shit will not just go away.
Ha. Fucking noobs.
Your temple is coming down, mofuckas.



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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: The_Ghost]
    #15202906 - 10/09/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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The_Ghost said:
Quote:

Shroomism said:
I LOL at the federal govt, federal law supersedes state law my dick...
They are grasping at straws here.
Cannabis has more acceptance now than it ever has in the last 70 years,
Medical programs are opening up all over the country..
California is not going to just take it sitting down.
More likely they will come in and try and shut down half the dispensaries then when they leave twice as many pop up.

They know their reign of terror is coming to an end and they are just holding on to whatever power they think they can grasp.
Striking at CA first to try and spread the fear..
Anything to 'maintain control' and delay the fucking inevitable.
This shit will not end well for them.
People are already pissed enough about the economy.
Now they are going to add this to mix and make things 10 x worse?
Marijuana is like CA's #2 money maker. The shit will not just go away.
Ha. Fucking noobs.
Your temple is coming down, mofuckas.



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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Almond Flour]
    #15203003 - 10/09/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

They'll probably shut down like 12 dispensaries, and the rest will continue to flourish.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: circularvortex]
    #15203068 - 10/09/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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They'll probably shut down like 12 dispensaries, and the rest will continue to flourish.




Happens every time. This is not a new story, people. The federal government "cracks down" and closes the largest dispensaries with the most outstanding tax problems, then one or another city government legalizes pot the next day. California, as a state, has sent a message to the federal government, which is: "You can have my pot when you confiscate it at gunpoint." And the federal government continues doing that to the very best of its abilities, which it turns out is very poorly.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #15203389 - 10/10/11 12:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

nigga imagine what we could do wit crack!

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    #15203411 - 10/10/11 12:35 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I believe the crackdown on crack is occurring in South America, and it's going just as ineffectively. Cough, Evo Morales.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Konyap]
    #15203421 - 10/10/11 12:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

More people are growing weed in California now than at any time in the past.

I just dont see weed going away. I don't foresee it's use declining at all. It's a nearly unstoppable force to be reckoned with.

It's strange though and I don't understand why they're doing this now instead of either not allowing it or cracking down earlier. Maybe they just waited for it to get so big so they could confiscate more assets and such. Who knows, shit sucks.


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    #15203490 - 10/10/11 01:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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I believe the crackdown on crack is occurring in South America, and it's going just as ineffectively. Cough, Evo Morales.




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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #15203537 - 10/10/11 01:17 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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They'll probably shut down like 12 dispensaries, and the rest will continue to flourish.




Happens every time. This is not a new story, people. The federal government "cracks down" and closes the largest dispensaries with the most outstanding tax problems, then one or another city government legalizes pot the next day. California, as a state, has sent a message to the federal government, which is: "You can have my pot when you confiscate it at gunpoint." And the federal government continues doing that to the very best of its abilities, which it turns out is very poorly.

I'm telling you, I can't believe how vastly people overestimate the reach of the federal government.




But the fact is there are 12 dispensary owners whose lives are ruined, the employees lose their jobs, and the growers lose their freedom.  We can look at the bigger picture and say that 12 isn't so bad considering how many there are, but at the same time, there are many people whose lives will be ruined by the upcoming raids regardless.  The worst part is the state in which they live says "Yes do it all you want," so they do, and end up screwed by the government.

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    #15203697 - 10/10/11 02:23 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

lololol. all those people who signed up for cards are probably on dispensary lists that will be raided due to violation of federal law. being ahead of the game: knowing federal law trumps state where federal laws are in existence.


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    #15203765 - 10/10/11 03:05 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667]
    #15203835 - 10/10/11 03:45 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I've heard this has already caused very, very long lines and increased demand in the range of $3000-$4000 an hour in extra business. I don't know how true this is for the state as a whole, this is just what I've heard.

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    #15206494 - 10/10/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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lololol. all those people who signed up for cards are probably on dispensary lists that will be raided due to violation of federal law. being ahead of the game: knowing federal law trumps state where federal laws are in existence.




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    #15207526 - 10/10/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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lololol. all those people who signed up for cards are probably on dispensary lists that will be raided due to violation of federal law. being ahead of the game: knowing federal law trumps state where federal laws are in existence.




They're not tracking down everybody who bought weed at the dispensaries they raid.





yeah that would be retarded. You think they're going to throw us all in federal prison?

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 404]
    #15207805 - 10/10/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)



Still though, nailing dispensary owners is very difficult. They are generally wealthy enough to defend themselves in court for a very long time. It ends up costing the feds a lot of money to bust people like this.

If you read the article it will tell all about the DEA using fear tactics. They make empty threats all the time. :facepalm:


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lololol. all those people who signed up for cards are probably on dispensary lists that will be raided due to violation of federal law. being ahead of the game: knowing federal law trumps state where federal laws are in existence.




They're not tracking down everybody who bought weed at the dispensaries they raid.





yeah that would be retarded. You think they're going to throw us all in federal prison?





Lol, have you seen the statistics of prison populations since the "War on Drugs" began?





yes but they aren't going to track down 500,000+ patients nationwide, try them and lock them in prison, they'll go after the big fry

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    #15207968 - 10/11/11 12:33 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The DEA is not equipped to police everybody in the country, and California police enforce California law.

Weed is legal in Oakland. You don't need a recommendation. There are dispensaries you can walk into from the street. Oakland is getting ready to tax it.

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    #15209668 - 10/11/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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The DEA is not equipped to police everybody in the country, and California police enforce California law.

Weed is legal in Oakland. You don't need a recommendation. There are dispensaries you can walk into from the street. Oakland is getting ready to tax it.

Weed's not going anywhere.





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    #15210802 - 10/11/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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The DEA is not equipped to police everybody in the country, and California police enforce California law.

Weed is legal in Oakland. You don't need a recommendation. There are dispensaries you can walk into from the street. Oakland is getting ready to tax it.

Weed's not going anywhere.





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    #15212037 - 10/12/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

but people open up shops because they mostly think nothing will happen to them and state law will protect them.  The feds can shutdown how many shops in a week?  Only they stop, for some reason.  If they really wanted to they could be shutting shops down every single day.  There doing it for the profit, let them get big enough, collect lots of money, then when they bust them they get to put all that cash in there back pocket.

but my point is if they really didn't want these shops around, they wouldn't be around.  Soon as people start taking them seriously is the second those shops stop popping up.

anyone have any links to whats actually happening to these shop owners tho?  I havn't really followed this story much but i thought i heard a shop got closed and the owner said he was going to open a new one up right away? :confused::lol:

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    #15212086 - 10/12/11 01:23 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Anybody connected enough to start a dispensary knows full well what the feds have done. They know the DEA thinks federal law trumps state law. They do it anyway.

I'll reiterate the main points:

1) The federal government actually can't enforce drug laws nationwide. The DEA, the FBI, and other federal agencies don't have the money or manpower necessary to do so.

2) The local governments of California are, for the most part, extremely pro-pot. Local law enforcement enforces local law. (It is possible to be fined $100 for unlawful possession, less than a speeding ticket, but around here cops are under order to tolerate it. I've been caught red-handed with weed and been ignored several times.)

3) Dispensary owners have the money for a good defense in court. The legal fees often grow to be astronomical. This is terrible for the dispensary owner, but it's also terrible for the feds. The feds just can't keep up with it, hence the fear tactics.

4) Oakland is getting ready to collect taxes on weed sold to people without prescriptions.

It's really fucking evil and shit that the feds are doing this, but I can't get worked up over it. It's totally pointless and actually unsustainable. The more integrated weed becomes with our economy, the harder it will become for the feds to beat this dead horse. They're going to just forget about it someday because the cost so drastically outweighs the payoff.


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    #15212115 - 10/12/11 01:32 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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    #15212173 - 10/12/11 01:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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    #15212198 - 10/12/11 02:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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    #15212200 - 10/12/11 02:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hate to pop your us-vs.-them bubble, but fact is far fewer Americans care about marijuana than they do about the solvency of their banks. California's just the bellwether, the entire country is fast approaching a tipping point in marijuana laws. It's the same pattern everywhere: it starts with decriminalization because it's just so expensive and pointless to chase around after stoners. Then comes the medical marijuana cards. Eventually there are fewer people upset that healthy people are getting marijuana than there are people wondering why healthy people shouldn't get marijuana.The gray market makes room for entrepreneurs. The economy becomes increasingly intertwined with marijuana, and full-blown legalization for all adults follows shortly.

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    #15212217 - 10/12/11 02:09 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

but when all those people get out of jail or stop going to jail, that means less food, less jobs, less everything more expensive everything.  Slavery works too :lol:


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    #15213129 - 10/12/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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They only way they'll take my medicine away is over my cold dead body.
I'm in Michigan and the laws changed a tiny bit but it's still super easy to get your medicine here, deliveries are the new thing. It doesn't look like it's gonna get any worse here, only better hopefully.






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    #15214007 - 10/12/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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    #15215914 - 10/12/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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The DEA is not equipped to police everybody in the country, and California police enforce California law.

Weed is legal in Oakland. You don't need a recommendation. There are dispensaries you can walk into from the street. Oakland is getting ready to tax it.

Weed's not going anywhere.




No shit?  I live in Oakland.  Where are these clubs you can just walk into?


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    #15215925 - 10/12/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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    #15215956 - 10/12/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I actually never went to one. The prices are a bit higher at the non-medical clubs, and one of my best friends is a first-rate dealer who lives a couple blocks down. So yeah, never felt the need to actually go there.

But my brother is telling you look for the "The Cozy Lounge." My roommate knows the actual address so I'll hit you up with it in a PM when he gets home from work. As the name might suggest, they've actually got a lounge where you can chill and smoke your shit out of a hookah.

Totally legit and tolerated under Oakland law. These guys are just trying to figure out how to tax this shit. :lolsy:

I didn't know you were from Oak-town circularvortex, we need to chill. I'm busy as fuck most of the time, but my birthday is in a couple weeks. My birthday is actually on Thursday (the 27th) which is the Friday to my three-day weekend. I intend to get all my schoolwork finished up ahead of time so I can spend the whole weekend partying it the fuck up with my crew of psychedelic gangsters.

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    #15215981 - 10/12/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I'm down.  I actually just moved to Oakland like a month ago.  Definitely hit me with some details on your party man :pm:


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    #15217251 - 10/13/11 12:23 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Damn had our first MJ dispensary raid here in az yesterday.fuck the man!!!


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    #15217622 - 10/13/11 02:46 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

your federal government is just in the process of disillusionment.

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I actually never went to one. The prices are a bit higher at the non-medical clubs, and one of my best friends is a first-rate dealer who lives a couple blocks down. So yeah, never felt the need to actually go there.

But my brother is telling you look for the "The Cozy Lounge." My roommate knows the actual address so I'll hit you up with it in a PM when he gets home from work. As the name might suggest, they've actually got a lounge where you can chill and smoke your shit out of a hookah.

Totally legit and tolerated under Oakland law. These guys are just trying to figure out how to tax this shit. :lolsy:

I didn't know you were from Oak-town circularvortex, we need to chill. I'm busy as fuck most of the time, but my birthday is in a couple weeks. My birthday is actually on Thursday (the 27th) which is the Friday to my three-day weekend. I intend to get all my schoolwork finished up ahead of time so I can spend the whole weekend partying it the fuck up with my crew of psychedelic gangsters.

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just to clarify, it's my understanding that you can't, under ANY circumstances, legally buy weed without a doctors rec that can be verified through the cannassist program.  I've been to a dispensary in LA where you could just walk in and enter the storefront and see the buds.  However, every other place i've been to has had a separate lounge area where you're held while they verify your info.  I've only been to like 40 dispensaries in cali though, mostly in sacramento.  So what i just read seems a bit misleading.  Perhaps you can go into a lounge like that with your own bud and smoke it, but I really don't think anyone can go in there and buy some.


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In Oakland you can just go right in and chill card or not...


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In Oakland you can just go right in and chill card or not...




Right, Oakland has different clubs. Most of them are medical clubs admittedly, but there are a few that aren't. They also charge more, so you're better off going to the medical places if you can, but it's a start :shrug:


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So there are places in oakland where you can go pick up weed without a card?


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WOW u'd think that during election year that most candidates would back up legal medical marijuana since the taxes on it benefit the failing economy and also I am severely disappointed in Obama being that as I remember he stood by this and now he's destroying and do you guys truly believe that Ron Paul will sand by legal marijuana? Or is it just something to say so he gets votes, I mean he is republican and that confuses me and makes me doubt his sincerity

I don't live in CA but I am angry I thought that since other states were catching on that eventually all the states would follow...not the opposite damn the feds they never know when to leave a good thing alone


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WOW u'd think that during election year that most candidates would back up legal medical marijuana since the taxes on it benefit the failing economy and also I am severely disappointed in Obama being that as I remember he stood by this and now he's destroying and do you guys truly believe that Ron Paul will sand by legal marijuana? Or is it just something to say so he gets votes, I mean he is republican and that confuses me and makes me doubt his sincerity

I don't live in CA but I am angry I thought that since other states were catching on that eventually all the states would follow...not the opposite damn the feds they never know when to leave a good thing alone





Ron Paul's the real deal.    He's been speaking out against the war on drugs for 30+ years. 

When I saw Ron Paul speak in NY a month ago he opened his speech by asking if anyone in the audience is from the FBI, CIA, IRS or the TSA and concluded that is good cause were all friends in the room.    I think Ron Paul is the only top tier candidate running for president that actually gives a fuck about our freedom.




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    #15232516 - 10/16/11 05:12 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It's better this way anyways... no government involvement is ideal imo... you know if the dispensaries continued to grow and become more numerous there would eventually be a tax, an age restriction, and I imagine corporations would start producing and product quality would continuously decline until we were all smoking more carcinogenic additives than THC.

Don't fear the feds they are your friends if you so wish, buy local!

For those with medical reasons for use, it might seem like a negative change but it'll all get better soon enough, in the meantime you still have that good friend of your's a couple houses down the street.

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WASHINGTON -- The decision to crack down on medical pot establishments in the Golden State was a collective decision by four U.S. attorneys in California and not the result of any directive from Washington, according to a spokesman for California-based U.S. Attorney Andre Birotte Jr.




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It's better this way anyways... no government involvement is ideal imo... you know if the dispensaries continued to grow and become more numerous there would eventually be a tax, an age restriction, and I imagine corporations would start producing and product quality would continuously decline until we were all smoking more carcinogenic additives than THC.

Don't fear the feds they are your friends if you so wish, buy local!

For those with medical reasons for use, it might seem like a negative change but it'll all get better soon enough, in the meantime you still have that good friend of your's a couple houses down the street.





I agree to an extent.  I'm not comfortable with full scale legalization knowing how it could get corrupt but full blown decriminalization, no charges or jail for any marijuana users I would like to see.  No marijuana arrests in the U.S. would be nice.


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WASHINGTON -- The decision to crack down on medical pot establishments in the Golden State was a collective decision by four U.S. attorneys in California and not the result of any directive from Washington, according to a spokesman for California-based U.S. Attorney Andre Birotte Jr.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/14/crackdown-medical-marijuana-california_n_1011780.html





I wouldn't trust that article so quick. Right here it clearly says Obama's Department of Justice is cracking down on medical marijuana. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/11/war-on-weed-obama-marijuana_n_1005483.html

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SAN FRANCISCO -- Three years on, not a single Wall Street banker has been prosecuted after a financial crisis rooted in rampant fraud brought the global economy to its knees. President Obama's Department of Justice has more dangerous miscreants to worry about: medical marijuana shop owners.

The DOJ has launched an assault on medical pot dispensaries, vowing to shut down establishments licensed and regulated by state and local governments, in a reversal of an earlier policy, based on an Obama campaign promise to leave the shops alone as long as they followed state law.



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    #15236111 - 10/16/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Getting the drug culture to cooperate with the government is like trying to get the government to adequately supply social services. Not going to happen.

So rather than try to actually wring tax money out of growers and dispensers who would much rather reinvest in their operations and not pay taxes, the government is taking a slash and burn approach. Having allowed the industry to expand unchecked for years, they're seeking to bring everyone down at once and rob, i mean, "confiscate", tens of thousands of peoples livelihoods.

What confuses me is the California DA's involvement in this whole thing, why would they want to assist the feds in violating their states rights? They should be the ones protecting the dispensaries legal rights to sell weed to people at a store, not to mention these peoples jobs.

One way or another the feds are going to get theirs. They just did the same thing through the Kansas DA to shut down and rob BBB.

This is not just about weed or K2 anymore. This is about ideology. Everyone i know who grows, sells, mules, cooks or crystalizes is a non-supporter of the Gov't. They see a segment of the economy mostly populated by dissidents gaining a considerable amount of legitimate currency and associated legal clout, as well as credibility and social acceptance.

I have never supported medical cannabis because of the taxable nature of business in this country. I do not want the money that people spend on cannabis being used by the government to fight wars and prosecute growers who didn't give big brother a big enough cut.

Beyond constant fear of police, it's these double standard political charades that make me not want to live in this country, despite its many conveniences.

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    #15240847 - 10/17/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Monday, October 17 To my friends and colleagues in the medical cannabis industry: I believe the time has come for us to form a state-wide trade association of cannabis collectives, and lend my voice to others calling for its formation. The events of early October have made it clear that the Obama administration has decided to specifically target California’s medical cannabis industry, and comes on the heels of similar attacks in Montana and Michigan. With several federal government agencies—IRS, Treasury, ATF, DOJ—involved in launching coordinated attacks, our industry has never faced such challenging times. The entire amazing system of legal, regulated cannabis distribution that we have developed is under threat, along with all the jobs and tax revenue we have extracted from the illegal market. Licensed dispensaries, laboratory tested medicine, cbd-rich medicine, local and state tax revenues, family farms, and thousands and thousands of jobs are all at stake. It is a time to come together; a time to pool our assets; to assemble our brightest minds; and to carefully develop and deploy a winning strategy. Clearly, we cannot do that on our own, one dispensary at a time. Our only hope lies in coming together. Over the years, we have seen several previous efforts to create a broad based trade association, but none has been successful so far. In my view, the main stumbling block has been suspicion of competitors, and the existence of several smaller, more local trade associations. If we could ever afford that type of division, the time has surely passed. With our very survival at stake, we must call on our better selves, assume good intention on the part of our fellow activists and businesspeople, reach across whatever divides us, and come together now. I stand ready to support such an organization in any way I can.




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"Unions are about making money, and that's what PHARMACEUTICAL companies are about. They don't care about the patients," Martinez said.



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Mr. Ray Martinez is suggesting that medical marijuana dispensaries don't care about their patients as much as profit-driven pharmaceutical companies do. Myself, I'm just not so sure.


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    #15241494 - 10/18/11 12:49 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Very unfair to say that ALL dispensaries dont care about the patients. A lot of the "patients" that you are sooo concered about are getting their cards for NO valid reason except that they use it for recreational purpose. Now I am not saying that people shouldn't have their weed who want to just smoke it. I am just saying what about the little dispensary is truly giving it to Terminally Ill people. It really does have medical purpose.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 404]
    #15243278 - 10/18/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

fuck the feds, life will still go on, thell just switch to a delivery service, no need to waste gas, it also will cut out the store front the grower will make what he deserves...if he delivers, it will be like the old dope dealing days. like me i was locked up for 4 yrs for cultivation, my time is not free..

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    #15243354 - 10/18/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I think the Pharmacorps are receiving devastatingly accurate studies on the benefits of cannabis and have lobbied for a stronger crackdown on pot shops n grow houses to thin out the market. Later the will buy up the best growing land confiscated by the fed, begin cultivating under the guise of medical research, a few months / years later lobby again this time for limited permits. Only they will afford these permits, then they will sell an infused THC/ insert some inhibitor/ sell to doctors and charge outrageous prices for a sub par product. Make billions, pay of the politicians who helped push through legislation, and the Americans will be none the wiser.

Its just like every case in which the government has used Imminent Domain to take land from people. They will claim to need the land for federal highway use or to protect some species of animal, only to turn around and sell the land to the highest corporate bidder. Nothing new. Same dirty system, same dirty tricks. You'll probably lose your pot. It isn't till they regulate our food intake and begin snatching up kids that we will actually take action. By then it will be too late.


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    #15245334 - 10/18/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Unfortunately pot heads aren't as violent as drunks, so the reason to stop its prohibition (tommygun masacres in the streets) will not be there. We will just have to find a non-violent way to get the gov to be reasonable. Besided the cops miss busting people for smoking pot and are using the feds to circomvent the vote we won. Shady bastards.

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    #15248932 - 10/19/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Very unfair to say that ALL dispensaries dont care about the patients. A lot of the "patients" that you are sooo concered about are getting their cards for NO valid reason except that they use it for recreational purpose. Now I am not saying that people shouldn't have their weed who want to just smoke it. I am just saying what about the little dispensary is truly giving it to Terminally Ill people. It really does have medical purpose.

Just my two cents.....:shrug:




I do not understand stoners that say pot doesn't have medical value for them.  Not one bit.

Just because you don't have glaucoma or cancer or what have you, doesn't make pot not a medicine for you.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 404]
    #15249829 - 10/19/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Meh, I'll start worrying about the feds closing down clubs when one of the six clubs within walking distance of me get shut down. Seriously, it would take a fucking army to close down every single dispensary in California. Just more scare tactics, nothing to see here.

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    #15251421 - 10/20/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Meh, I'll start worrying about the feds closing down clubs when one of the six clubs within walking distance of me get shut down. Seriously, it would take a fucking army to close down every single dispensary in California. Just more scare tactics, nothing to see here.




I'm on probation till 2014 and can't smoke my medicinal MJ anyways but I agree with you, I think or at least hope that it is just a scare tactic or that it is somehow resolved by the time I am able to partake again.

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    #15252038 - 10/20/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I live in Ohio where there are no medical marijuana laws. I have smoked recreational marijuana for ten plus years. Just over a year ago I kicked a really bad opiate addiction. Along with the damage caused by my previous drug use, I have a family history of intestinal issues. I have found over time that marijuana not only creates appetite, but it also makes having to take a shit ten times easier. The medicinal qualities of marijuana are endless, and in the end there is ZERO negative information,scientifically speaking...

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    #15260343 - 10/22/11 03:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

That would be against everything soldiers are sworn to supposedly protect, the US Constitution and its people....
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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Shroomism]
    #15260364 - 10/22/11 03:43 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

itsd economically more profitable to have a cops and robbers scheme. that way you have good guys and bad guys...

thats what they need to have thousands of pigs be allowed to rob you of your weed and your property. Its a pro-government anti-population scheme.
it means more fuel consumption which boosts the economy. fewer vehicles need to move around if the same amount of marijuana is legal, and thus half the amount of people make money, if you think about it...


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    #15260400 - 10/22/11 04:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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That would be against everything soldiers are sworn to supposedly protect, the US Constitution and its people....
They are just keeping them busy overseas




in the end the solders will do as there told thats what there being paid, trained, breed, brainwashed to do.  You look around the world and you see other nations military blowing there citizens to shreds, america won't be any different.  Well, the only thing that might differ is that they will use 120k volt stun guns, 500x strength pepper spray, microwave guns, ect first.  When all those nifty things fail, the guns will come out because at that point those serving and protecting are going to be fearing for there lives, and they will justify there reactions by that, as well as saying there's a few people in there houses i have to protect them.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #15260544 - 10/22/11 05:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yeah I'm sure they are just gonna go blow away their family and neighbors all in the name of following orders.

I know the military is a brainwashing academy, but goddamn people. Most soldiers are your next door neighbor.


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    #15260567 - 10/22/11 06:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

they will see a mob not family/neighbors, this kind of thing happens all over the place.  what makes america so different?  we already have cops shooting people over there beliefs because they were following orders/procedures. if our gov is afraid of losing power it will do everything to keep it, and there's enough people here that if someone doesn't follow orders they just get replaced.  Not to mention outside of the military is all the propaganda like the word "terrorist". 

lets say the rioters were the first to draw blood, how would the military feel about that?  we've had protests recently, do any of the cops just go home?  nope, they follow orders and lock people up, if someone fired at them u best believe they would whip there shit out faster than a donut to mouth


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #15260768 - 10/22/11 07:42 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

San Jose, CA is ordering all dispensaries closed soon.

http://420medicated.com/2011/alert-all-san-jose-collectives-will-be-shut-down-october-29th/

They need 40,000 signatures by the 29th to put it on a referendum. Anyone think that's actually going to happen???


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #15261689 - 10/22/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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That would be against everything soldiers are sworn to supposedly protect, the US Constitution and its people....
They are just keeping them busy overseas




in the end the solders will do as there told thats what there being paid, trained, breed, brainwashed to do.  You look around the world and you see other nations military blowing there citizens to shreds, america won't be any different.  Well, the only thing that might differ is that they will use 120k volt stun guns, 500x strength pepper spray, microwave guns, ect first.  When all those nifty things fail, the guns will come out because at that point those serving and protecting are going to be fearing for there lives, and they will justify there reactions by that, as well as saying there's a few people in there houses i have to protect them.




You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. America is not ruled by a totalitarian dictator's regime, and it's going to be hard to convince American soldiers the 50% of people who stand up behind pot are actually terrorists (because obviously they aren't) and it's also hard to justify gunning people down when all they want is pot, and not to overthrow the entire fucking government.

Kids with no international perspective lol. It's going to take more than Marijuana to start a full blown civil war; maybe some starvation could.


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    #15262164 - 10/22/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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San Jose, CA is ordering all dispensaries closed soon.

http://420medicated.com/2011/alert-all-san-jose-collectives-will-be-shut-down-october-29th/

They need 40,000 signatures by the 29th to put it on a referendum. Anyone think that's actually going to happen???




I'm sure it will be put on a referendum.

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    #15263785 - 10/22/11 09:40 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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That would be against everything soldiers are sworn to supposedly protect, the US Constitution and its people....
They are just keeping them busy overseas




in the end the solders will do as there told thats what there being paid, trained, breed, brainwashed to do.  You look around the world and you see other nations military blowing there citizens to shreds, america won't be any different.  Well, the only thing that might differ is that they will use 120k volt stun guns, 500x strength pepper spray, microwave guns, ect first.  When all those nifty things fail, the guns will come out because at that point those serving and protecting are going to be fearing for there lives, and they will justify there reactions by that, as well as saying there's a few people in there houses i have to protect them.




You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. America is not ruled by a totalitarian dictator's regime, and it's going to be hard to convince American soldiers the 50% of people who stand up behind pot are actually terrorists (because obviously they aren't) and it's also hard to justify gunning people down when all they want is pot, and not to overthrow the entire fucking government.

Kids with no international perspective lol. It's going to take more than Marijuana to start a full blown civil war; maybe some starvation could.




you don't know what the fuck your talking about, since i was talking about riots, and overthrowing the entire fucking government :derp:


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #15266363 - 10/23/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

can a referendum actually prevent a FEDERAL crackdown?

excuse the pun...


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    #15267115 - 10/23/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

No. Federal law trumps state law.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667]
    #15269195 - 10/24/11 01:25 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

that's such a load of bullshit!!!

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    #15272805 - 10/24/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

And I just got my Cannabis Card! :sad:


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Shroomism]
    #15276964 - 10/25/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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yeah I'm sure they are just gonna go blow away their family and neighbors all in the name of following orders.

I know the military is a brainwashing academy, but goddamn people. Most soldiers are your next door neighbor.





My brother was in the army for a few years before being discharged. I can tell you this, he is not brainwashed. not like people make it out to be.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 404]
    #15277129 - 10/25/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Soldiers will do what soldiers are told to do without question that is what they are trained to do. They are the ultimate tool
thats why they go to bootcamp, you never question orders. When your commanding officer tells you to do something you dont say "why" or "i dont think thats right". It is the governments army not the peoples army
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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Satyapriya]
    #15278587 - 10/25/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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And I just got my Cannabis Card! :sad:




Dont trip, your carf will still be valid and you still have the right to use and not all clubs will be closed and long after they are there will still be at home delivery services. They cant stop it, just harrass us is all.

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    #15278597 - 10/25/11 09:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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And I just got my Cannabis Card! :sad:




Dont trip, your carf will still be valid and you still have the right to use and not all clubs will be closed and long after they are there will still be at home delivery services. They cant stop it, just harrass us is all.




This.

I feel like every post about the Feds cracking down on dispensaries should include the disclaimer "WARNING: THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT USES FEAR TACTICS AND EMPTY THREATS TO MAKE THEMSELVES SEEM MORE IMPORTANT AND POWERFUL THAN THEY ACTUALLY ARE."

They pull this shit with the dispensaries seriously like every year or two, it never goes anywhere, and the industry continues to thrive. I actually would go so far as to say that a total shutdown of California's marijuana industry (though impossible from a practical standpoint) would cripple the nation's economy beyond recovery.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #15282269 - 10/26/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah even my cousin can legally "medicate" so it's no wonder it comes to an end.

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    #15284199 - 10/27/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

"we are the federal gov't! are laws over-ride yours! [even tho The Constitution says otherwise] you will close 'pot-shops'! your assents will be ceased. you will be prosecuted! you will be persecuted! end message."

this is rather fucked because now the Fed gov't will try to collect a butt-load from Cali for taxing the shit!

this will go all the way to the supreme court. gov't vs. gov't! it's a plant!!


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: broken]
    #15290638 - 10/28/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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"we are the federal gov't! are laws over-ride yours! [even tho The Constitution says otherwise] you will close 'pot-shops'! your assents will be ceased. you will be prosecuted! you will be persecuted! end message."





:lol:  i agree with your point but its just funny when marijuana supporters make grammatical errors.  we need to prove to the anti-marijuana population that weed doesn't make people dumb.  it sucks because anyone making the same grammar mistakes and misspellings would have most likely made the same mistakes even if they had never smoked weed. but the media and government propagandists will take that and turn it around and say that marijuana inhibits our ability to learn and makes academic performance suffer in young people.

but anyway, 'are' does not equal 'our' and 'cease' isn't the same as 'seize'.  not trying to be a dick but i think the pro-pot movement stands a much better chance at progress if pot smokers step up and show the world that we're (mostly) not addicts, burn outs/drop outs, and lazy unemployed/underemployed losers.  we're just as capable and  successful as anyone else and it needs to be common knowledge that regular, average, normal people like to smoke herb.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: BoneMan]
    #15290811 - 10/28/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:rolleyes: Nobody needs to prove shit to nobody.


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    #15294703 - 10/29/11 10:33 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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"we are the federal gov't! are laws over-ride yours! [even tho The Constitution says otherwise] you will close 'pot-shops'! your assents will be ceased. you will be prosecuted! you will be persecuted! end message."





:lol:  i agree with your point but its just funny when marijuana supporters make grammatical errors.  we need to prove to the anti-marijuana population that weed doesn't make people dumb.  it sucks because anyone making the same grammar mistakes and misspellings would have most likely made the same mistakes even if they had never smoked weed. but the media and government propagandists will take that and turn it around and say that marijuana inhibits our ability to learn and makes academic performance suffer in young people.





lolwut? Cannabis affects the amygdala and hippocampus regions of the brain, both of which are part of the limbic system and deal very closely with the consolidation of memories from short-term to long-term

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: BoneMan]
    #15294925 - 10/29/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

so because i'm not great with the written english language i'm a :

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"we are the federal gov't! are laws over-ride yours! [even tho The Constitution says otherwise] you will close 'pot-shops'! your assents will be ceased. you will be prosecuted! you will be persecuted! end message."





:lol:  i agree with your point but its just funny when marijuana supporters make grammatical errors.  we need to prove to the anti-marijuana population that weed doesn't make people dumb.  it sucks because anyone making the same grammar mistakes and misspellings would have most likely made the same mistakes even if they had never smoked weed. but the media and government propagandists will take that and turn it around and say that marijuana inhibits our ability to learn and makes academic performance suffer in young people.





lolwut? Cannabis affects the amygdala and hippocampus regions of the brain, both of which are part of the limbic system and deal very closely with the consolidation of memories from short-term to long-term


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: CavemanJohnson]
    #15299725 - 10/30/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Meh, I'll start worrying about the feds closing down clubs when one of the six clubs within walking distance of me get shut down. Seriously, it would take a fucking army to close down every single dispensary in California. Just more scare tactics, nothing to see here.



I may have spoke too soon here.

I know for a fact that one local club has been shutdown

I have heard through the grapevine that another has closed their doors (not sure if permanently). Another has switched over to delivery service only, and they no longer accept new customers

There are still plenty of open clubs around town. Hopefully this trend doesn't continue  :sad: I'm located in Sacramento btw.

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    #15299903 - 10/30/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

they just stopped givin compensation to them one of the largest dispensaries was told they owe 2.5 million

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    #15300557 - 10/30/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

People abuse the system so much. Just look at Coaster, he got a card. There's nothing wrong with him, except for being a retard and a drug addict.

If the feds finally end it for good, you can thank California doctors and Coaster.

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    #15302056 - 10/31/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

:coasterheart:

Weed is similar to caffeine or nicotine for a lot of people, but because other people can't handle it or whatever the fuck it has to be illegal?

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    #15304951 - 10/31/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

so what was the threatining letter they recieved?

probably a threat to pharmacutical companies...

It doesn't really matter I bet you this will stir some shit and get the public to start questioning the governments intentions.

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    #15307697 - 11/01/11 07:29 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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All they're doing is pushing the entire market underground. Black market politics. Congrats idiots.

And fuck you Obama.




God this pisses me off so much.  I guess it's going to be a buyers market soon, there will be some gun battles that ensue (in Cali for sure), and then the feds will, once again, ride in on their moral high horse and say "See all of this bloodshed!!! This is what marijuana does!!!"  For fucks sake I wouldn't bet against us (the United States) from being very far off from goddamn mandatory bible camps, and a fuckin donut cop on every corner.  No wonder why this country is fucked.

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People abuse the system so much. Just look at Coaster, he got a card. There's nothing wrong with him, except for being a retard and a drug addict.

If the feds finally end it for good, you can thank California doctors and Coaster.

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Not really man, we can thank California for having medical marijuana to begin with.  And why would you think that this program would be any different than any other government program?  They all get abused one way or another.  This one is no different.

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    #15308031 - 11/01/11 09:35 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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That would be against everything soldiers are sworn to supposedly protect, the US Constitution and its people....
They are just keeping them busy overseas




in the end the solders will do as there told thats what there being paid, trained, breed, brainwashed to do.  You look around the world and you see other nations military blowing there citizens to shreds





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    #15308063 - 11/01/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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yeah I'm sure they are just gonna go blow away their family and neighbors all in the name of following orders.

I know the military is a brainwashing academy, but goddamn people. Most soldiers are your next door neighbor.





My brother was in the army for a few years before being discharged. I can tell you this, he is not brainwashed. not like people make it out to be.





I have never known anyone in the military that would turn it's guns on his
own people, sure there may be a few in every thousand but that's not
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against an armed nation. the armories would empty. the government's supply
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    #15308071 - 11/01/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Not really man, we can thank California for having medical marijuana to begin with.





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    #15308175 - 11/01/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

as long as there's a reason and a paycheck there's going to be alot of people willing to "protect" the country against itself.  The reason the government hasn't been overthrown yet is because everyones afraid to get shot the fuck up, because they know thats what it would take! When riots hit the streets the cops come in taze, pepper spray, and then lock you up.  When that doesn't work, both sides are going to esculate, when cops start going down, how do you imagine the country is going to react?

There's going to be 2 sides, a side that wants change, and a side that likes the status quo, thats why there will always be guys with guns ready to use them, thats why governments like over population because there's always a soilder ready to fight for them. And push comes to shove there's always nato to come bomb us like lybia to reinstate our democracy. 

When there's guns going off one side is going to think oh poor citizens getting killed, and another side is going to think poor cops/military AND citizens getting hurt, both ways u can swing it as helping by shooting armed citizens which is from guns to pitchforks, unarmed citizens would obviously just get arrested like always after a overdose of pepperspray and taser for rubbing their eye's wrong


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: TwoCoats]
    #15308380 - 11/01/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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there will be some gun battles that ensue (in Cali for sure)




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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Robo]
    #15308569 - 11/01/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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People abuse the system so much. Just look at Coaster, he got a card. There's nothing wrong with him, except for being a retard and a drug addict.

If the feds finally end it for good, you can thank California doctors and Coaster.

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Pretty much, even if you are a pot doctor you should laugh an idiot like coaster out of your office.  It IS because of people like him and probably all those stupid current tv/natgeo specials where idiot lisa ling is like "so this is a pot shop derp derp" and continues to interview like the last guy in the world you would want to represent MM as a legit thing, funny they always seem to find the doucheist guy to interview and make it look bad.  They also always interview "patients" walking in and asking them there ailments while the clueless idiot patients tell them things like " I dun stubbed my toe, wink wink nod nod marijuana helps with the pain and lets me live a better life duuuurrrrrrr".  No one should ever agree to potraying there shop on tv for everyone to see like that, just made it look terrible and like every idiot stoner who wants a card can get one (which was coincidentaly true).  I kinda thought something like this might be comin in the future (just not so damn soon) after I just saw on MTV's true life an episode called "IM in the marijuana business".  They showed some like 20 yr old fag who was becoming a caretaker and thought he was tony montana for having some clones and sat his parents down to tell em about his big plans with life and how hes not gonna use his college degree and grow marijuana instead.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: PeterGriffin467]
    #15309763 - 11/01/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Robo]
    #15311033 - 11/01/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone else hear about the huge lawsuit against the Obama Administration by the Americans for Safe Access?

Looks like this fight is about to get heated. Fuck the DEA!

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 404]
    #15311537 - 11/01/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Konyap]
    #15311861 - 11/02/11 01:45 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'm just saiyan.


EDIT: ...wtf is that thing anyway, a horny Charmander?

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 404]
    #15313510 - 11/02/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Anyone else hear about the huge lawsuit against the Obama Administration by the Americans for Safe Access?

Looks like this fight is about to get heated. Fuck the DEA!




I handn't heard, but good. I for one am going to do ny part by not voting for him again and convincing others to do the same, not hard since he sucked.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Morican]
    #15315439 - 11/02/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

certain politicians are better on the fed and certain are better on state, obama is not the latter

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: q667]
    #15324326 - 11/04/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I'll bet every spore print I own this "crackdown" NEVER happens.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Sci-Fi]
    #15324338 - 11/04/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Do you live under a rock? It's BEEN happening. Google News search medical marijuana. Not sure if troll..

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Sci-Fi]
    #15324401 - 11/04/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

From what I've read, only 3 places have been raided so far.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: nooneman]
    #15324414 - 11/04/11 09:27 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

way more than three. and I'm not even factoring in the other states like colorado. they don't need to raid the places, all they need is the scare tactics and then to tell the landlords to put up eviction notices.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 404]
    #15324430 - 11/04/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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way more than three.



Link?

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: nooneman]
    #15324540 - 11/04/11 09:53 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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way more than three.



Link?







Really? You could have easily done this yourself. Google News ftw.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_19261397
http://lomalinda.patch.com/articles/colton-pot-dispensary-shut-down-after-federal-raid
http://www.katu.com/news/local/133278268.html

ALL of Fort Collins dispensaries are fucked, they just voted against them (result of fear tactics)

Here's a total of 8 that got closed down... http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Lake-Forest-Medical-Marijuana-Closed-132359883.html



I shouldn't need to go any further...

And before you go off saying "WELL, THEY WEREN'T RAIDED"

all I'm saying is the crackdown doesn't NEED to raid for them to make some kind of downsizing of this industry, this 'crackdown' is doing it in different ways... Pretty sure I could find more than three raided places if i changed some stuff around in my search.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 404]
    #15324682 - 11/04/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Sci-fi, canni getta spore print preeze?  Lol, trade?

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 404]
    #15324784 - 11/04/11 11:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

you are losing the bet so far. This topic is CA marijuana dispensaries.

You posted one dispensary closure in california. Thats not news. One gets closed down every week in california for breaking the rules. At the same time ten more open. There are approximately 150 new dispensaries in my county alone in the past two years.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Sci-Fi]
    #15324887 - 11/04/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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you are losing the bet so far. This topic is CA marijuana dispensaries.

You posted one dispensary closure in california. Thats not news. One gets closed down every week in california for breaking the rules. At the same time ten more open. There are approximately 150 new dispensaries in my county alone in the past two years.





Lol, yeah you got me there, but does it really matter if its just cali? The federal drug war affects more than just the dispensaries in CA

Regardless, would you be willing to trade one, assuming I have something that you'd want?

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: 404]
    #15325806 - 11/05/11 08:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

So, the socialist jigaboo lied again.  What's new?


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: starfire_xes]
    #15326446 - 11/05/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

yea pretty much just state are left out

being a grown up nowadays pretty much entitles being a fag.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Konyap]
    #15333740 - 11/06/11 11:44 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It's not gonna happen... it's a stunt for re-election, and possibly funding from alcohol, tobacco, whatever.  i honestly don't think they're actually going to go after property owners who rent to MMJ dispensaries...if they actually do, once they actually start taking over individuals property you will see the reaction...think long and hard about it.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: countchocula420]
    #15350839 - 11/10/11 04:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I say let them do it, Many of the dispensary owners are ready to go to court. I haven't gone to one since the announcement.

because there is a shitload in cali i believe they will send out written letters first and then send a task force, it would take at least 6 months to close them all down and by that time some will be re-opening because some will beat it in court.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: djmako7]
    #15351656 - 11/10/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I think if it even goes that far, once private property owners get their land/property taken away for renting property to mmj dispensaries you will see people getting pissed.  but theres already been a lawsuit filed against Holder, the guy who's responsible on the fed's end.


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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: countchocula420]
    #15353042 - 11/10/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone else think in the long run this will just get the public to start questioning the governments intentions?

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    #15353387 - 11/10/11 11:58 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Anyone else think in the long run this will just get the public to start questioning the governments intentions?




This is what I hope will happen. The propper motivator is there, money. No.one cares enough about fighting for their right to smoke, but people will fight for money.

The rest of us should just fight for our right to smoke. Aint it about time?

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Morican]
    #15353401 - 11/11/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

what i want to know, who is going to support this tool, jive mother-fucker in the white house who is the president?  At least the republican tools are straight out and tell u they won't support legalizing it.  You fucking assholes who vote for this jigaboo in the whitehouse, you deserve to go to jail for firing up a joint.
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what i want to know, who is going to support this tool, jive mother-fucker in the white house who is the president?  At least the republican tools are straight out and tell u they won't support legalizing it.  You fucking assholes who vote for this jigaboo in the whitehouse, you deserve to go to jail for firing up a joint.
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He just told everyone what they wanted to hear to get into office. Hes just a puppet. the people that put him in charge picked a black man because they knew he would get votes, it was either him, a lady, or mccain.all the black folks voted for him just because he was black.lol.makes no sense. it really doesnt matter who is in the white house anyway, the people that are really running the show just have the presidents as a puppet to the public anyway. "vote for change" things will never change. the secret people in power use politics to gain more. look at the bush family. him, his dad, and his grandad. it just makes me sick. look at the whole federal reserve thing

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Umeltin]
    #15353581 - 11/11/11 12:46 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

This is exactly what I mean.  Yet people still believe this TOOL is the best choice. The best choice, IMO, is Ron Paul, no matter how radical his ideas seem to be;  At least he doesn't change his position.


Now, you you fucking people who think Obama is the fucking big nig on campus, the man who will turn around america, just go ahead and post this socialist mother fucker's bullshit--i'll rip you a new asshole. 

If you came to your sense and realize this jigaboo is a lying, socialist mother fucker dancing on the end of strings, I give you my full respect and support--because he IS a fucking puppet.


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This is exactly what I mean.  Yet people still believe this TOOL is the best choice. The best choice, IMO, is Ron Paul, no matter how radical his ideas seem to be;  At least he doesn't change his position.


Now, you you fucking people who think Obama is the fucking big nig on campus, the man who will turn around america, just go ahead and post this socialist mother fucker's bullshit--i'll rip you a new asshole. 

If you came to your sense and realize this jigaboo is a lying, socialist mother fucker dancing on the end of strings, I give you my full respect and support--because he IS a fucking puppet.




Im not even into politics and i started to notice this. glad someone else feels the same

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Umeltin]
    #15357788 - 11/11/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

We need cartel money for lawyers and to buy the support of politicians and cartel justice when they go back on their promises. I for one am sick of people telling me I cant smoke bud. I will always be pro pot regardless of the laws. But I mean enough is enough, lets get agressive about it and make the craziness stop. Occupying wallstreet is getting news coverage and support because most of us agree that the rich are out of control, well the feds are out of control so lets occupy congress or the white house till they legalize pot.

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Re: Feds will shut down CA marijuana dispensaries [Re: Morican]
    #15362734 - 11/12/11 11:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

those Fedassfaces get themselves involved in everything. But the marijuana patients will probably stop this from happening.


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