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Yeah I hear ya
I think the biggest disaster in this situation (the original thread subject) is how it affects artisan cheese makers.
i respect you for having kept an open mind through this thread, but cheese is hardly the biggest looser.
you can go on netflix right now and find 2 movies on demand:
one is called "Colony"
the other is "Vanishing of the bees"
When you look at the impacts of any ecological process, never focus on products that we, ourselves, indulge in first. There are Millions of variables that must be Carefully kept in line before we can even Begin to indulge in the fruits of the world we live in. and bee's are the lifeblood seasonal production! ( No bee's - We's FUCKED )
BYC, i LOVE how up to snuff you are on this shit! i've seen all those movies and everything netflix has on water, fuel, etc.
This definitely belongs in this forum. several of those movies detail Several successions of ppl who worked at monsanto and other companies, who are now writing the laws that let's them do what they do. Keep your voice up!
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Keep your voice up!
Forever! 
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
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The Corporation: Since the late 18th century American legal decision that the business corporation organizational model is legally a person, it has become a dominant economic, political and social force around the globe. This film takes an in-depth psychological examination of the organization model through various case studies. What the study illustrates is that in the its behaviour, this type of "person" typically acts like a dangerously destructive psychopath without conscience. Furthermore, we see the profound threat this psychopath has for our world and our future, but also how the people with courage, intelligence and determination can do to stop it.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/118169/the-corporation
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15756676 - 02/03/12 03:22 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Obama may be appointing the CEO of monsanto to head the FDA
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15761321 - 02/04/12 04:39 PM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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Fuck Monsanto, the patenting of life, contamination of non-GMO plants, monocultures, the false promise that their GMOs increase yields or are more environmentally friendly, poisons built into plants, antibiotic markers, "substantial equivalency", the pillaging of small farms, the revolving doors in politics, synthetic biocides, subsidies for the unsustainable production of food, undercutting foreign agricultural markets with government-subsidized/cheap crops, the lawsuits against innocent farmers caught in the crossfire, the lack of labeling, the allowance of false advertising, and on and on!
Monsanto is NOT solving world hunger or providing any benefit except the lining of their own pockets. If we wanted to solve world hunger we could simply not feed as many animals the edible crops that are grown. They profiteer off the labor of poorly compensated farmers, government subsidies, and sidestepping regulation through cronyism and bribery.
I'm not forever 100% against genetically modifying things but the truth is humans have not mastered an understanding about how genetics work and calling these first generation GMOs "substantially equivalent" to traditional breeding techniques is utter nonsense. At least there are some GMO projects that have a noble intent behind them. "Golden Rice" seems well-intentioned at least since it is modified to have more beta-carotene which is a precursor to vitamin A which can be a common dietary deficiency in some parts of the world. Still, it's irresponsible to unleash these kinds of things into the world without significant testing and overwhelming understanding of what we're doing.
Here's a list of at least some of the companies that buy seed from Monsanto in the USA and Canada http://us.seminis.com/products/hg_dealer.asp?/
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: PoC]
#15766119 - 02/05/12 07:58 PM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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much of what you're ranting about is government and ultimately you, you need
to deal with your elected officials, remove those that continue to stupport
the status quo. it just as with GMO crops, you have the choice not to buy the
products. the more people that know and dont buy the weaker these companies
become
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15766773 - 02/05/12 10:41 PM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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Putting the onus so heavily on the individual is not right. I do what I can on the individual level but corporations rule this place. There's also very little distinction between corporations and the government with all the revolving doors not the least in Monsanto's case. To me it's just a system of valuing money over nature, health, ethics, safety, or democracy. Buying into that system is a trap.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
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It just as with GMO crops, you have the choice not to buy the
products. the more people that know and dont buy the weaker these companies
become
That's the problem... there has been growing demand from the public that GMO's be labeled as such, but of course they have flexed their muscles in preventing that from becoming a requirement for their food products. If you look at one of my first posts in this thread, there has been many rallies!!!! The consumer, for the most part, don't know when they go to the market if they're buying GMO or not b/c it's not required by law to be labeled as such.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
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Putting the onus so heavily on the individual is not right. I do what I can on the individual level but corporations rule this place. There's also very little distinction between corporations and the government with all the revolving doors not the least in Monsanto's case. To me it's just a system of valuing money over nature, health, ethics, safety, or democracy. Buying into that system is a trap.
is it not your choice to buy the products you know use stuff you dont approve
of? is it also not your right to petition the government on your grievances
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It just as with GMO crops, you have the choice not to buy the
products. the more people that know and dont buy the weaker these companies
become
That's the problem... there has been growing demand from the public that GMO's be labeled as such, but of course they have flexed their muscles in preventing that from becoming a requirement for their food products. If you look at one of my first posts in this thread, there has been many rallies!!!! The consumer, for the most part, don't know when they go to the market if they're buying GMO or not b/c it's not required by law to be labeled as such.
growing demand, if .001% of the public is complaining about GMO grains in
breakfast cereals and that number increases to .02% but only the original
.001% is actually contacting their elected reps to step in and start with
conspicuous product labeling then has that demand actually increased. the
problem with most of those that want to see this sort of legislation is
that they dont speak up, instead they take the alarmist yet inactive
approach of only telling people and often times they're misinforming those
they do tell. why not take a proactive approach and contact companies that
dont use the GMO products and ask them why they arent labeling their stuff
as GMO free. the milk I buy is free of rBST/rBGH and is labeled as such in
order to generate the added sales without having to spend a fuckton on
'organic' which is yet another con from the government
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15767732 - 02/06/12 08:59 AM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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Oh but I have contacted my representatives and signed petitions. 
...and I post these w/ hope that others do likewise.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15777869 - 02/08/12 05:42 AM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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dont waste you time with petitions, they're great for letting people feel as
though they're doing something but they're typically ignored unless it's a
petition to get a republican governor out of office in wisconsin
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15791410 - 02/11/12 04:04 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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you know, sometimes things have to be said ( OR HEARD ) time after time after time before you get that "Ah-HA!" or "Oh YEAH!" moment. and it's just as true with me.
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if .001% of the public is complaining about GMO grains in
breakfast cereals and that number increases to .02% but only the original
.001% is actually contacting their elected reps to step in and start with
conspicuous product labeling then has that demand actually increased.
to give you a better analogy, we talk to our supermarket guys fairly often askin about fresh produce and varieties etc. the guy told us once, "if there's Ever Anything you guys want, Please say something! we know that if we get 10 ppl to ask about it, there are at Least a hundred more thinking about it."
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the problem with most of those that want to see this sort of legislation is that they dont speak up, instead they take the alarmist yet inactive approach of only telling people and often times they're misinforming those they do tell.
Guilty As Charged!
I'm gonna put that in my pipe and smoke it for a while. it's certainly not a complete solution but it's a piece of the puzzle, and was my " oh yeah . . stoopid!" moment
so really what we need are 100 ppl calling legislators a day!
anyways, i've gotta get to work - i was trying to remember the name of the movie i just watched on netflix about golden rice.
that's another gross fallacy. i don't think it had anything to do with well intentioned business. if i recall it was something closer to those areas having no interest in foreign seed of Any kind. practically at the govt lvl. and the extra vitamin a or whatever was the shim to get under the fence. once their in their in. and they destroy economies, families and lives. it's india all over again.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
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it's india all over again.
https://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/india-sues-monsanto-for-biopiracy/
india all over again... well, sorta
Tuesday, February 14,2012
Monsanto Found Guilty of Chemical Poisoning in France
A French court has found U.S. chemical giant Monsanto Co. guilty of pesticide poisoning in the case of a French farmer who became ill after exposure to one of the company’s herbicides, according to Reuters. The case is significant in that it sets precedent for other cases alleging pesticide poisoning or negligence in reporting of potential effects on human health resulting from pesticides. The court has said it will seek an expert opinion regarding the farmer’s losses in order to determine the appropriate amount of damages he should be rewarded.
http://www.boulderweekly.com/article-7620-monsanto-found-guilty-of-chemical-poisoning-in-france.html
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: 13shrooms]
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@13 That last video isn't working... it's blank.
You guys should check out http://www.organicconsumers.org/ , it's where I get most of my Monsanto updates!
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
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iz feexd now 
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