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OoBYCoO
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The World According To Monsanto
#15159331 - 09/30/11 05:12 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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The World According To Monsanto
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15159394 - 09/30/11 05:28 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15159449 - 09/30/11 05:40 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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shiiiiit. i hope i get the 16th off to go to the d.c. one. i definitely want to be there.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15159574 - 09/30/11 06:13 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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It's kind of a waste of time and effort supporting a cause that will waste more money and resources on things which are for the most part trivial.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: CatWrangler69] 1
#15159597 - 09/30/11 06:17 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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it is NOT trivial if you are a farmer. Monsanto goes to great lengths to deny farmers the right to generate their own seed...to the point of hiring private investigators and lawyers to intimidate guys who own seed cleaning equipment.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: greysRDbest]
#15159625 - 09/30/11 06:22 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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It's just one business' attempt at taking over the niche of another's. That's all.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: greysRDbest]
#15159691 - 09/30/11 06:43 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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greysRDbest said: it is NOT trivial if you are a farmer. Monsanto goes to great lengths to deny farmers the right to generate their own seed...to the point of hiring private investigators and lawyers to intimidate guys who own seed cleaning equipment.
Exactly!!! If you watch the video LiquidSmoke, you will see that. Not trivial in the least! It's that mentality that allows companies like Monsanto to do whatever they want and end up fucking us in the end! How is it trivial when they are bankrupting and taking EVERYTHING away from generational farmers for "allegedly" violating their patents on seed? For trespassing on their property so the gene police can get these "genetic reports" that are used against the farmers in court to sue them for everything they have? How is it trivial that b/c of Monsanto, you are effectively causing us to create monocultures of cash crops which weakens said crops b/c they are unable to defend themselves NATURALLY against pests/environmental problems, which also plays into their bottom line... ***enter their pesticides**** sold and used to combat these deficiencies that THEIR monocultures have created. Not to mention the harm that these chemicals do to the ground/ground water and US!!!!
Need I continue?!?!??!
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15160453 - 09/30/11 10:10 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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liquidsmoke. i'm really baffled you even said that. seriously dude.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: pachoo]
#15160525 - 09/30/11 10:31 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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@LiquidSmoke Well here's some news articles to help you out w/ that...
http://motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2011/09/monsanto-denies-superinsect-science http://www.scidev.net/en/news/mexican-trial-of-gm-maize-stirs-debate.html http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2011/04/05/3182831.htm?WT.mc_id=science_twitterfeed_enviro&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+abcscience_enviro+%28Environment+news+and+features%2C+from+ABC+Science%29 http://www.naturalnews.com/033216_GMO_contamination_lawsuits.html#ixzz1Tx53JlvN
Similar Movies regarding Monsanto:
Food Inc.
Future of Food
The World According to Monsanto
Food Matters
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Mississippi and Iowa, two big farm states, were recently tested for glyphosate levels in the air and water. Researchers found the key ingredient of Monsanto's Roundup herbicide in every stream sample tested, Scientific American reports.
The magazine quotes Paul Capel, environmental chemist and head of the agricultural chemicals team at the U.S. Geological Survey Office, saying: "It is out there in significant levels. It is out there consistently."
But Capel said more tests were needed to determine how harmful the chemical, glyphosate, might be to people and animals.
Real-Life Examples Speak For Themselves However, while a politically-guided agency needs more tests—and probably more tests after that—to make a public statement regarding the health effects of the chemical, some people don't need tests to be sure what those effects are.
People like Viviana Peralta in San Jorge, Argentina. Peralta's baby daughter suffers acute asthma attacks every time a crop duster sprays herbicides and pesticides near her house, which sits in an agriculture-rich province 600 kilometers from Buenos Aires.
A Le Monde story tells of Peralta's experiences, saying that she eventually made the connection between her daughter's asthma attacks and the chemical sprayings—a suspicion that a pediatrician would later confirm. Glyphosate was found present in Ailen's blood.
Le Monde reports more about the town of San Jorge:
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In San Jorge, cancer rates have spiked 30% in the past 10 years. Residents say that following a crop dusting, their lips turn blue and their tongues swell. Chickens die. Dogs and cats shed their hair. Bees disappear and birds become scarce.
And, the story continues, San Jorge is not alone:
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In the province of Chaco, which borders Paraguay, a study carried out over the past 10 years in a town called La Leonesa suggests that cancer rates have tripled while the incidence of malformations has quadrupled. The situation has created tensions between residents and rice farmers, who use glyphosate and spray from airplanes...
Andres Carrasco, an embryologist from the University of Buenos Aires, published a study in late 2010 demonstrating the toxic effects glyphosate can have on amphibian embryos. His work has earned him no shortage of enemies. He was physically attacked on a visit to La Leonesa and the conference he was scheduled to give there was canceled.
Carrasco is quoted saying he hasn't even made any new discoveries. "I just confirmed what other scientists had already discovered. The scientific evidence is there. Above all, there are the hundreds of [ill and malformed] people who are the living proof of this health emergency."
Apparently, though, that scientific evidence is not enough for the U.S. Geological Survey Office, or any other federal government agency, to show much concern about the effects of glyphosate on public health, despite finding it in every water sample tested.
(To be clear, the EPA is reviewing the chemical, but more than 30 years into its use and with a deadline for a decision still years away, it's not exactly treating it with any urgency.)
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15160596 - 09/30/11 10:47 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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LiquidSmoke said: It's just one business' attempt at taking over the niche of another's. That's all.
Yep, but they bamboozled the people who wrote the legislation that governs this shit and it appears the courts are in their pockets too. Farmers who show up with Monsanto genetics in the crops should be suing Monsanto for trespassing. Monsanto made farm crop genetics property and their cash cow is straying onto others property and the courts are coddling Monsanto.
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Under U.S. patent law, a farmer commits an offense even if they unknowingly plant Monsanto's seeds without purchasing them from the company. Other countries have similar laws.
In the well-known case of Canadian farmer Percy Schmeiser, pollen from a neighbour's GE canola fields and seeds that blew off trucks on their way to a processing plant ended up contaminating his fields with Monsanto's genetics.
The trial court ruled that no matter how the GE plants got there, Schmeiser had infringed on Monsanto's legal rights when he harvested and sold his crop. After a six-year legal battle, Canada's Supreme Court ruled that while Schmeiser had technically infringed on Monsanto's patent, he did not have to pay any penalties.
Schmeiser, who spoke at last year's World Social Forum in India, says it cost 400,000 dollars to defend himself.
"Monsanto should held legally responsible for the contamination," he said.
Another North Dakota farmer, Tom Wiley, explains the situation this way: "Farmers are being sued for having GMOs on their property that they did not buy, do not want, will not use and cannot sell."
"It's a corporation out of control," says Andrew Kimbrell, the executive director of CFS.
Quote from here, http://www.twnside.org.sg/title2/service155.htm
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: falcon]
#15160609 - 09/30/11 10:50 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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falcon said:
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LiquidSmoke said: It's just one business' attempt at taking over the niche of another's. That's all.
Yep, but they bamboozled the people who wrote the legislation that governs this shit and it appears the courts are in their pockets too. Farmers who show up with Monsanto genetics in the crops should be suing Monsanto for trespassing. Monsanto made farm crop genetics property and their cash cow is straying onto others property and the courts are coddling Monsanto.
http://www.naturalnews.com/033216_GMO_contamination_lawsuits.html#ixzz1Tx53JlvN
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15160659 - 09/30/11 11:02 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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Ha! Hopefully, they'll reap what they sowed.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: falcon]
#15160744 - 09/30/11 11:25 PM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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Yup, they were the ones who started precedence for suing farmers who have "violated" their patents, it's only right that they get a taste of their own medication!
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LiquidSmoke said: It's just one business' attempt at taking over the niche of another's. That's all.
you're missing the point entirely.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15162569 - 10/01/11 12:41 PM (7 months, 24 days ago) |
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I retract what I said previously.
I thought this was more of that "organic food is superior" mumbo jumbo.
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I haven't watched the documentary posted, but I know exactly what it's all about.
US law needs to change to disallow the patenting of dna. Plain and simple. To give any company a exclusive rights to dna is ridiculous, even if it is bio-engineered by them.
To the naysayers, this is what it's about. Mansato sues farmers that use their patented soy bean crop without paying them for it. The kicker is that this soy bean crop that they bio-engineered has pollen like any other plant, pollen that then sexually reproduces with crops that don't have the mansato patented reproduction gene. Mansato reps go around the country finding any farmer who doesn't pay them for their soy bean crop and them tries (often successfully) to put them out of business for not using it. It's genetic monopoly and needs to be stopped.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15164401 - 10/01/11 08:02 PM (7 months, 24 days ago) |
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Doesn't this belong more in the political forum?
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LiquidSmoke said: I retract what I said previously.
I thought this was more of that "organic food is superior" mumbo jumbo.
coolio. i like you now. 
but yea, this should be in the political forum....
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: pachoo]
#15169353 - 10/02/11 09:14 PM (7 months, 23 days ago) |
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While this is a huge political issue, it is about gardening/plants/etc afterall. Feel free to repost this there but I didn't want to double post.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#15171413 - 10/03/11 10:48 AM (7 months, 22 days ago) |
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it seems more of a thread for hippies to get riled up about a movement.
Which is why it seems more appropriate for the Political Forum.
Not much talk about cooking and brewing and what not.
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