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 LayinUp
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 Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: LayinUp]
#15022404 - 09/03/11 10:53 AM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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LayinUp
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: LayinUp]
#15022415 - 09/03/11 10:55 AM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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Of course, we can build these with all recycled materials too!
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Zanthius
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: LayinUp]
#15022423 - 09/03/11 10:58 AM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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LightShedder said:
http://www.zeitgeistmediaproject.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=402:the-doctor-now-show-vertical-farms&catid=6:film-media&Itemid=3
I wish Peter Joseph ( the creator of the Zeitgeist movie ) had studied a bit more ecology and natural sciences. He is spot-on about the economic system though, although a bit naive.
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: Sly Stone]
#15022428 - 09/03/11 10:59 AM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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Now I have to go xFrockx on you.
I was sincerely hoping you would not have to stoop to such a tactic. 
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I dont think our population size is a problem, and I dont think it needs correcting. I welcome the project upcoming population growth.
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LayinUp
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: Zanthius]
#15022437 - 09/03/11 11:00 AM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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Zanthius said:
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LightShedder said:
http://www.zeitgeistmediaproject.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=402:the-doctor-now-show-vertical-farms&catid=6:film-media&Itemid=3
I wish Peter Joseph ( the creator of the Zeitgeist movie ) had studied a bit more ecology and natural sciences. He is spot-on about the economic system though, although a bit naive.
Not so sure I understand what you are saying? Peter Joseph is NOT the inventor of vertical farms or utilizing geothermal energy.
Are you trying to suggest these are viable technologies?
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Zanthius
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: LayinUp]
#15022480 - 09/03/11 11:12 AM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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LayinUp said:
Not so sure I understand what you are saying? Peter Joseph is NOT the inventor of vertical farms or utilizing geothermal energy.
Are you trying to suggest these are viable technologies?
Vertical farms utilizing geothermal energy for 50 billion people? I doubt that I will ever see 100 million people living on food from vertical farms utilizing geothermal energy.
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: Zanthius]
#15022494 - 09/03/11 11:15 AM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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Zanthius said:
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LayinUp said:
Not so sure I understand what you are saying? Peter Joseph is NOT the inventor of vertical farms or utilizing geothermal energy.
Are you trying to suggest these are viable technologies?
Vertical farms utilizing geothermal energy for 50 billion people? I doubt that I will ever see 100 million people living on food from vertical farms utilizing geothermal energy.
I doubt you will too.
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thelivingfreekshow said:
46% of the earth(not counting the ocean, of course) is uninhabited.
Much of that land is uninhabitable, however.
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: LayinUp]
#15022613 - 09/03/11 11:42 AM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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I see you still choose to ignore my question even when reposted at your request.
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: Icelander]
#15022685 - 09/03/11 12:00 PM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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The other guy was ignoring you.
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Icelander
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: Sly Stone]
#15022839 - 09/03/11 12:40 PM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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Oh sorry, they all look alike to me. 
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― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: 4896744]
#15022963 - 09/03/11 01:07 PM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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All I know is I've backed my preach with action. I've not reproduced.
Anyone here going to back theirs by living like they're in Bangladesh?
You bet I'm livin as close to one as possible still being able to type this to you now on this iPhone... And personally I choose to remain this involved with society for 2 reasons (as opposed to retreating and living completely off the land)
A) give my 2 children a good upbringing with a positive foundation for future progression for themselves and our planet (relating to these very issues)
B) accumulate as much wealth in this silly capitalistic system through whatever means possible to redistribute the wealth appropriately
Not to mention volunteer work I do and future philanthropic plans I have for changing the existent world for the better.
you see, for me to live completely like a Bangladesh, I would have to take a recluse-like stance of non-action. Knowing what I know about the state of things, I choose to act and try and change things while I have the chance- the oppurtunity fir seclusion and ignorance can cone later in life. For now, I'm capable of feeding people and devoting energy towards a better future for humanity and the earth as a whole.
Do you believe in objective morality?
Of course not! Did I give you a reason to believe I did?
The fact that you are preaching your ideological preference as something that we should follow kind of hinted at it. You might as well be preaching to us about your favorite band being better than our favorite band.
Definitely misinterpretation onyour behalf. I was responding to someone who implied a question of whether I practice what I preach, as he claims he does. I was giving a brief description of things I do to follow my beliefs. Sorry if it came off as trying to be influential, I actually can't find that notion in there reading back on it, so maybe it was some projection of the way you felt about what I wrote?? I dunno
And for what it's worth, the grateful dead is far better than your favorite band
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"How should the population be corrected?" isn't the right question. I'm assuming OP meant something more along the lines of "How are we to deal with resource allocation?" but his first question garnered more attention by blaming others.
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LightShedder
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: penelope_tree]
#15022988 - 09/03/11 01:13 PM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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penelope_tree said:
"How should the population be corrected?" isn't the right question. I'm assuming OP meant something more along the lines of "How are we to deal with resource allocation?" but his first question garnered more attention by blaming others.
It's a bit like asking the question "how do we fix the over-demand for urinals?" when we have 7 people bunched up on 3 out of 10 urinals.
There's 3 more urinals so I'd say figure out a way to utilize the urinals adequately. Don't kill 4 people because you're too stupid or greedy or whatever to utilize the open urinals!
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"If it seems radical, pretend like it is normal."
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: Icelander]
#15023065 - 09/03/11 01:29 PM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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Icelander said:
I see you still choose to ignore my question even when reposted at your request.
If you're asking how we plan to feed 50 billion people I say....
It's not like im claiming that if 50 billion people were thrown onto the planet tomorrow that we'd be able to feed them before they all get a chance to watch American gladiators... Rather, if we harnessed our potential collectively as a species (which involves reproduction and selective teachings to younger generations, not genocide) we would be prepared by the time we reach that population.
How?
Threres endless possibilities I won't elaborate on right now (maybe later) ranging from things as simple as efficient farming/ living habits to realistic space exploration/inhabitation.
It's possible, it takes faith and action of a radical degree, yes.
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"If it seems radical, pretend like it is normal."
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: LightShedder]
#15023076 - 09/03/11 01:31 PM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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LightShedder said:
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Icelander said:
I see you still choose to ignore my question even when reposted at your request.
If you're asking how we plan to feed 50 billion people I say....
It's not like im claiming that if 50 billion people were thrown onto the planet tomorrow that we'd be able to feed them before they all get a chance to watch American gladiators... Rather, if we harnessed our potential collectively as a species (which involves reproduction and selective teachings to younger generations, not genocide) we would be prepared by the time we reach that population.
How?
Threres endless possibilities I won't elaborate on right now (maybe later) ranging from things as simple as resourceful farming/efficient living habits to realistic space exploration/inhabitation.
It's possible, it takes faith and action of a radical degree, yes.
Once again you completely skipped the question I reposted for you. Go figure.
Let me help you by yelling. IN ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY MAJOR EVIDENCE THAT HUMANS ARE GOING TO BE WILLING TO PRACTICE EQUALITY AND EQUALLY SHARE RESOURCES?
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: LightShedder]
#15023095 - 09/03/11 01:35 PM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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It's sad because it IS your lifestyle that is ruining the planet (collectively,hundreds of millions of our lifestyles). And some of you think you have a right to live the unnecessary materialistic lives you live, not seeing anything wrong with it. You carry the belief that other people don't have the right to life, yet you think you have a right to a wasteful worthless, yes worthless, life?
"I have authority over how many people can live like me (western materialism), whoever is a burden to my fucked existence must die!"
Advice: literally, practice what you preach. Go kill yourselves.
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"If it seems radical, pretend like it is normal."
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: LightShedder]
#15023102 - 09/03/11 01:37 PM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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Definitely misinterpretation onyour behalf. I was responding to someone who implied a question of whether I practice what I preach, as he claims he does. I was giving a brief description of things I do to follow my beliefs. Sorry if it came off as trying to be influential, I actually can't find that notion in there reading back on it, so maybe it was some projection of the way you felt about what I wrote?? I dunno
And for what it's worth, the grateful dead is far better than your favorite band
I guess you are right. It is just rare that someone comes in here with such an attitude who doesn't try to preach about how everyone else is doing it wrong.
Oh and the grateful dead sucks. They have some of the most boring music I've heard. 
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Re: How should the population be corrected? [Re: 4896744]
#15023106 - 09/03/11 01:38 PM (8 months, 21 days ago) |
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They really are a sucky band musically but the lifestyle that surrounded them was very cool imo.
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― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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