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InvisibleLucid_Euphoria
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How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree?
    #14957910 - 08/21/11 08:39 PM (3 years, 29 days ago)

Legit.
No drug selling, stealing, etc.

I want to know how I can make 50 to 60k a year with only a high school diploma.

Or possibly some other inexpensive certification.


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #14959833 - 08/22/11 09:16 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Straight out of HS?  Tough chance.  Pick a good field and work your way up - its your best bet.


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: memes]
    #14959893 - 08/22/11 09:56 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

No I'm in my thirties :p


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #14960071 - 08/22/11 10:58 AM (3 years, 28 days ago)

Then I guess your ability to make 50-60k depends on what you've been doing the last 15 years.


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: memes]
    #14964813 - 08/23/11 11:16 AM (3 years, 27 days ago)

Try the railroads. I made 68k last year and I only have a GED.
You want a class 1 railroad: BNSF (Burlington Northern Santa Fe), CN (Canadian National), CP (Canadian Pacific), NS (Norfolk Southern), UP (Union Pacific), CSX (Chessie Seaboard Expanded) or KCS (Kansas City Southern).

Unfortunately, you will have to make a huge sacrifice lifestyle wise. You will be low man on the totem pole (seniority) and will be working on-call 24/7 365 days a year, being gone overnight, sometimes 36 hours or more per trip.


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: Despondent]
    #14967479 - 08/23/11 09:00 PM (3 years, 27 days ago)

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Despondent said:
Try the railroads. I made 68k last year and I only have a GED.
You want a class 1 railroad: BNSF (Burlington Northern Santa Fe), CN (Canadian National), CP (Canadian Pacific), NS (Norfolk Southern), UP (Union Pacific), CSX (Chessie Seaboard Expanded) or KCS (Kansas City Southern).

Unfortunately, you will have to make a huge sacrifice lifestyle wise. You will be low man on the totem pole (seniority) and will be working on-call 24/7 365 days a year, being gone overnight, sometimes 36 hours or more per trip.




My buddy works for CN but he had to go to the University and get
some degree to work for them.


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #14967503 - 08/23/11 09:04 PM (3 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

Lucid_Euphoria said:
Legit.
No drug selling, stealing, etc.

I want to know how I can make 50 to 60k a year with only a high school diploma.

Or possibly some other inexpensive certification.



High School education is nothing nowadays

College diploma is meaning less and less, student loans are just not worth taking at 30.


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #14969952 - 08/24/11 10:44 AM (3 years, 26 days ago)

Entrepreneurial activity.

Without a doubt, the best way to make good money without an education.

Now, it can be TREMENDOUSLY difficult and demanding; Depends on the need you identify and serve... But even it you find "EASY" money, someone will come along and compete for it.
 
As I mentioned, you must identify a "need"... the foolish and broke entrepreneur is one who starts a business he or she WANTS to do(Admit as my bigggest problem).  No, You need one that your customers want. 

The big money; the reliable money, is in the mundane boring shit everyone needs, but no one wants to do.... Coat hanger factory is my favorite example.

If this is the way you wish to go, listen close and talk to people about what they "need" or wish to have.

A near certain bet is Real Estate(buying and flipping) - If you are in the position, there is ALWAYS opportunity. Even a bad market is great! BUY IT! 
Even if you can scrape together only a few grand...  You can buy a small strategic property that can turn a profit.  It is kinda dirty, but if you grab a tiny empty lot in a spot where someone wants to develop you can make an immense profit.  My local hero did this.  Bought a $2300 piece of land beside an old sugar factory.  When the Factory was closed and destroyed, condos were planned...  sold it for $70,000.  Not a bad return on a few phone calls and a couple signatures. 

He had since gone on to buy up an entire small street one house at a time...  an old slummy row of 100 year old brick homes.  By renovating these he had single handedly tripled the market value in the entire area, made himself wealthy...  and a local hero..  Then died of cancer... 
 
The Online world is still a potential goldmine,  You just gotta think outside the box.  Just remember that you have the ENTIRE world to sell to online.

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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #14970469 - 08/24/11 01:04 PM (3 years, 26 days ago)

Learn a trade.  Carpenter, electrician, plumber...


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: badchad]
    #14979432 - 08/26/11 12:28 AM (3 years, 25 days ago)

get your ass in school while the job market sucks.  bust ass for a few years and then you got 60k a year no problem.


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #14979578 - 08/26/11 12:52 AM (3 years, 25 days ago)

plus 20-40k of debt


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #14979581 - 08/26/11 12:53 AM (3 years, 25 days ago)

and that'd be a shit school haha


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boardwalk [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #15009894 - 09/01/11 02:35 AM (3 years, 19 days ago)

real estate: very easy test, very easy profit.  I'm sure you can find a 'friend' to sell or buy a house through you.

stock trading works too but stressful if you don't like monetary losses.


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #15011678 - 09/01/11 02:05 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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Lucid_Euphoria said:
plus 20-40k of debt



Best part about this is in the USA you are not legally required to pay for ANY schooling as long as you are STILL in school. Therefor if you get your AA or BA... Go back and sign up for more classes afterwards. My teacher said he is on his 2nd PHD because he refuses to pay the government. Makes sense to me.


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: Toofpaste]
    #15013076 - 09/01/11 06:59 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

Who the hell wants to be in school thier entire life?

No thanks


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: Lucid_Euphoria]
    #15013240 - 09/01/11 07:33 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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Lucid_Euphoria said:
Who the hell wants to be in school thier entire life?

No thanks



It's not as bad as you might think if you study things you enjoy. Nobody said you had to GO to school or even that you have to go full time if you do.  :zaphod:


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Re: How can I make 50-60k annually with only a HS degree? [Re: Toofpaste]
    #15013296 - 09/01/11 07:43 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

This thread is useless unless you tell us about the skills or interests you have. Some people who want a modest 25-40k go do a IT certificate like Microsoft enterprise, Cisco, etc.

To make 50-60k you would need at least a diploma and 2-4 years experience in your field. Sometimes a degree is required depending on what you take. Sometimes you can't even get 25k a year out of an undergrad with a crowded job market. To reach that middle income level you need to at have a good seniority in some organization or a diploma/degree with 2-4 years experience.

Your only bet is that you have money to invest or do real estate like some suggested or you have a safe small business plan. Or work the trains or do a trade/vocational training.


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Re: boardwalk [Re: secrethandshake]
    #15013685 - 09/01/11 09:07 PM (3 years, 18 days ago)

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secrethandshake said:
real estate: very easy test, very easy profit.  I'm sure you can find a 'friend' to sell or buy a house through you.





How often do you think your friends flip houses?  My wife is an extremely successful real estate agent.  Almost none of them are, though.  It takes a certain sensibility to be successful in sales.  Very few people have it.  I know I don't.


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Re: boardwalk [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15015282 - 09/02/11 02:34 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

Very true, me either... I certainly envy those with the gift of sales.

My gift is me mits, it appears... and LOVE tearing out plaster and lath.


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Re: boardwalk [Re: Dickhead]
    #15015300 - 09/02/11 02:40 AM (3 years, 18 days ago)

find a self employed niche.

own your own job..

think outside the box and do shit with your free time..

for example, recycle shit...youd be amazed and what a truck load of used car batteries could bring in.


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