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 Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God
#14929947 - 08/16/11 04:24 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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After a looong break taking strong psychoactives, yesterday I felt it was time to expand my mind again and I opted for Methoxetamine, a dissociative anesthetic.
The dosing regimen was as follows:
17:15 -- 30mg sublingual, held for 10 minutes, swallowed with juice (OJ) and 5mg valium equivalent was taken to smooth the experience.
19:45 -- 30mg sublingual, held for 10 minutes, swallowed with juice
23:45h -- 10mg sublingual, held for 10 minutes, swallowed with juice
00:45h -- 20mg sublingual, held for 10 minutes, swallowed with juice
About 45min after the first dose it was kicking in HARD and I went to bed, staring at the unlit lamp overhead. Depth perception was first to go, it was like the lamp was a tiny miniature lamp that was right in my face, the ceiling seemed to be right on top of me. At one point I got annoyed by the lamp and bit at it to chew it up.  In the buildup of effects to the 2 hours point I progressively let voluntarily go of everything, my fears, my expectations, my concerns, I said goodbye to them as I was descending out of ordinary consciousness.
Methoxetamine is very calming. I deeply empathized with being a wild animal being tranquilizer darted, which pharmacologically was close enough. I relived my kitty being high on Ketamine from his jaw surgery and I emphatized so deeply with his stumbling around - I was in the exact same boat.
At 2:30 hours into it I went out of bed and stumbled downstairs to prepare a booster dose. I made an incense sacrifice to my house Nkisi and got to weighing, constantly repeating to myself that I should do the best possible job at that.
Sublingual. Methoxetamine is somewhat bitter and has a bit of a sour flavor to it. Weighing was done repeatedly using a Rizla paper as a weighing boat until I was convinced I did it right, then said my prayer and sprinkled it under my tongue and kept it there for 10min. Over those 10 min, your mouth half fills up with saliva, you just need to let that happen and not think about it too much. After swallowing I rinsed my mouth with juice and then chased it with a big glass of cold chocolate milk. Then downstairs, candles lit, I waited out the first 45 min before going back to bed.
IMPORTANT: To me at least, high doses of methoxetamine are VERY uncomfortable when taken sitting down. You are in-ca-fucking-pacitated and you need to lie down, then it gets VERY comfortable. Theres an urge to gesture, posture and whisper to yourself. How people take this in clubs is beyond me and reason this will soon be ilegalized. You HAVE to lie down on a high dose, its non negotiable. You can't do this around people you can't be a bell end around, casting them maniacal looks and whispering to yourself.
I got into bed and felt to be my Nkisi statue being wrapped in its cloth. My consciousness split in two and a lively discussion, relevant to the trip began. It assured me that the essence of a human being is not the matter, the flesh, but that we are the story, and that the story is eternal. When the body is left behind, the matter ceases to be but the story, you, goes on. As he put it, in the computer that is the central nervous system a program is active that interconnects with the parts of the brain it needs, and this program, this piece of code, is what makes a human, human. We are what connects sensory input with memories and calculations, we are the program that unifies the parts to the whole.
It insisted that the Self has no precise location in the brain, should someone get a stroke in an important part the Self attempts to work around it, reassigning meanings to neural paths and altering them. When the foetus forms, the genetically hardwired basis of the Self program awakens and over childhood learns how to program and reprogram itself. It made clear that what we think of as cognitive processes does not stop in the brain, the neural net present in the lungs can be used to do basic math, for example. Your entire central nervous system should be thought of as the "computer" not just the brain.
It also told me that the computers of today have what it takes to house artificial intelligence, but what is needed is a program to be written that makes the first move, one that will expand itself to a full scope and assigns meaning to parts of the drives and the input it gets.
It went on and on and went ever more grandiose and radiant with confidence so I interrupted it's by then epic lecture with the question: "So, are you my servant?" That immediately toned down all authoritativeness and it said: "Of course I am, you programmed me for now to reveal this to you, when the trip is over you will disband me and assimilate me. But know that the fears that you sometimes have are your servants too, they serve to aid you, and you must not let them get the better of you."
I asked it and it explained that "the servants taking over" is the root cause of most mental illness, that the core of the mind, the person, takes a weak stance and lets itself be overrun by what in essence are messenger servants (like anxiety) who get out of control if they are not reined in. It went on to explain that most people who are now on meds for anxiety disorders would be instantly cured if they learned to "keep their servants in check" instead of take pills to soften their messages, but that the problem is that you can't really tell people how to do that because it requires the Self to reprogram itself, and that process is different for each of us and entirely ineffabble.
It also explained that the media are largely at fault for the current epidemic of mental illness because most people let them into their minds as voices of authority, but what they do is overemphasizes messengers of fear, negative thinking and suspicion, strengthening their position in the mind. According to it, humans are composed of a collection of internal messenging systems, and what our strength is as a species, is that we have come very adept through language and interpretation to communicate with those around us as if they were internal messengers thereby linking up the minds of the beings to a superorganism. The problem we have currently, as it put it, is that internal messengers have assigned reliabilities and predictabilities and that its a hard individual process to do the same with external sources of information, such as other people, the media, the internet and so forth. The mind has a significant problem with discerning between internal messengers which are sincere and authoritative in their fields and insincere quasi authorities (fox news and advertizing come to mind) in the external world.
My body felt very heavy. My limbs were light and mobile. Lying in my bed in darkness gave much greater depth than with indirect light. Direct light was intolerable. Lying on my back I could make my arms and legs move, or rather, make the body image of them move without moving them. To my mind there was motion but I knew that in the physical world there was no motion. I then went on an audacious experiment. Instead of making the body image of my limbs move, I chose to EXPAND my body. And lo and behold, I felt my body grow. I experimented with it. I could make it grow or shrink, age and rejuvinate, merge with the mattress and sheets, melt like ice in the sun. I could make the feeling of parts of my body disapear entirely, and overemphasize feelings, such as the blanket on my legs feeling like it was a heavy leaden cloak pressing down on my legs.
Whenever I got up, you do have to pee a lot, I reminded myself: "You are now interacting with physical reality. Do it wrong and you can get hurt." which made me extra careful negotiating stairs and zombie shuffling around, but also mindful to chew my food well and focus on the chewing process to avoid the Elvis effect of almost choking to death on food because you're out of your gourd on tranquilizers.
About 3-4 hours after a dose you stabilize to a point where its smooth sailing but you are really quite intoxicated for hours more. I find most merit in not taking one big dose at once but instead smaller ones every 2-3 hours as needed.
The 10mg dose was fairly wasteful it livened the high up but didnt take me to a new level of profundity, the 20mg dose an hour and a half later overshot the mark a bit for me, I had better taken 20mg at the time of the 10mg dose and left it at that - or quit at 2x30.
Its been months after my last Methoxetamine experience, the one where I birthed two universes and became a God in, on 2x50mg, and again, at lower dose, methoxetamine went and gobsmacked me with utter amazement at the drugs profundity, depth and scope.
I'm a BIG guy, and 60-100mg in 2-4 doses completely takes care of my needs for half a day. There is very little fear or stress which I commonly get with serotonin psychedelics. Heartbeat and breath quicken somewhat but nothing bad. Drugs like MDMA are quite more-ish with me but methoxetamine is so psychologically involving for me that it isnt moreish or naggy to me.
The stuff is AMAZING. Takes me higher than anything I know.
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 Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14929981 - 08/16/11 04:41 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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Nice read and descriptions. Makes a pereson curious to try....
Edited by Sham87 (08/16/11 04:43 AM)
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: Sham87]
#14929984 - 08/16/11 04:42 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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What can I say, its 
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14929996 - 08/16/11 04:46 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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If your brain is dirty laundry, MXE is a washing machine.
It cleans the pipes better than scouring pads.
Scouring pads? Jesus, I'm getting old.
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14930022 - 08/16/11 04:58 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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Dammit, Wiccan.
I just found some MXE today, and I've been vacillating on if I should purchase it or not.
This thread hasn't clinched it, but now I'm certainly going to dwell on it further.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14930034 - 08/16/11 05:02 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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Quote:
IMPORTANT: To me at least, high doses of methoxetamine are VERY uncomfortable when taken sitting down. You are in-ca-fucking-pacitated and you need to lie down, then it gets VERY comfortable. Theres an urge to gesture, posture and whisper to yourself. How people take this in clubs is beyond me and reason this will soon be ilegalized. You HAVE to lie down on a high dose, its non negotiable. You can't do this around people you can't be a bell end around, casting them maniacal looks and whispering to yourself.
Yeah my room mate thinks I am insane 
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: tymoteusz3]
#14930057 - 08/16/11 05:10 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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tymoteusz3 said:
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IMPORTANT: To me at least, high doses of methoxetamine are VERY uncomfortable when taken sitting down. You are in-ca-fucking-pacitated and you need to lie down, then it gets VERY comfortable. Theres an urge to gesture, posture and whisper to yourself. How people take this in clubs is beyond me and reason this will soon be ilegalized. You HAVE to lie down on a high dose, its non negotiable. You can't do this around people you can't be a bell end around, casting them maniacal looks and whispering to yourself.
Yeah my room mate thinks I am insane
The people I introduced it to temporarily thought they were going crazy, became afraid of long-term damage, and encountered that infamous "I'm never coming down, holy shit" feeling that psychonauts run into.
High doses are reserved for space cowboys.
Nevertheless, by morning time they were bouncing around with cheerful laughter and after-glows. It's a squeegee for the soul.
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: tymoteusz3]
#14930059 - 08/16/11 05:11 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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Yeah my room mate thinks I am insane
During the period of intoxication, you indeed are quite insane, whats important is whether it wears off when you sober up.
Your dopamine is HIGH, you operate with trance logic, split personalities and babble, you get a charles manson gaze, experience supernatural things and act sincerely out of your gourd.
You're definitely INSANE during Methoxetamine's effect, but the only things that matter is do you get out of control and do you indeed sober up if it wears off?
One of the things you say goodbye to when you descend is your sanity. Most of us do get it back though.
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14930069 - 08/16/11 05:15 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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Yeah my room mate thinks I am insane
During the period of intoxication, you indeed are quite insane, whats important is whether it wears off when you sober up.
Your dopamine is HIGH, you operate with trance logic, split personalities and babble, you get a charles manson gaze, experience supernatural things and act sincerely out of your gourd.
You're definitely INSANE during Methoxetamine's effect, but the only things that matter is do you get out of control and do you indeed sober up if it wears off?
Yes I was told the gaze was quite unnerving.
Its why I only take it when no one is around anymore. Obviously I am totally sane when it wears off though.
Since I am a very calm person I never lose control, and can handle myself really well. However I can see it ending badly for someone who is volatile / cannot handle themselves well.
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Ketamine , Methoxetamine ,MDMA, Coke, Meth, Morphine, Mushrooms, LSD , 2C-E, 2C-I, 2C-B, Mescaline, Weed, JWH - 250, JWH - 019, PCP, GHB, DMT,
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: tymoteusz3]
#14930083 - 08/16/11 05:18 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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Speaking of the gaze, I distinctly remember a friend who unconsciously closed one eye throughout the duration of the peak. Evening when (attempting) speaking, she squinted the eye and looked honestly retarded. No wonder people think we're crazy for exploring consciousness in these ways. From the outside it probably looks weird as fuck.
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: The Whale]
#14930092 - 08/16/11 05:21 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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The Whale said:
Speaking of the gaze, I distinctly remember a friend who unconsciously closed one eye throughout the duration of the peak. Evening when (attempting) speaking, she squinted the eye and looked honestly retarded. No wonder people think we're crazy for exploring consciousness in these ways. From the outside it probably looks weird as fuck.
Yeah it looks like we are messed up druggies who just took too much.
However if they only knew how awesome it was.
Last MXE hole I saw the void open up in my bathroom and me get sucked in.. truly awemazing.
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Understanding and dealing with panic attacks from weed
Research Chemical Reviews
2CE, Methoxetamine
There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K.
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: tymoteusz3] 1
#14930106 - 08/16/11 05:26 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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Last MXE hole I saw the void open up in my bathroom and me get sucked in.. truly awemazing.
Lets see, on that point you weren't concerned in the least bit and went "Weeeee! See where it takes me!!" I'm like that too on MXE, amazing you can be comfortable with things so bizarre
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14930112 - 08/16/11 05:30 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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Definitely a 'carefree' quality that accompanies the amazement. I remember having my physical body feel like it was being stretched across the room and disassembled into pieces. Instead of fear though, I was like "wow, this is interesting..."
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: The Whale]
#14930164 - 08/16/11 05:56 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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its a very "fascinating" drug, weird stuff happens and instead of frighten or weird you out it fascinates you. Its very Mr Spocklike in that regard, you tend to intellectually engage yourself with what unfolds.
Still to the outside world you're mad as a hatter for a few hours.
Not something to do too often or your life will get "fascinating" too
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: The Whale]
#14930260 - 08/16/11 06:31 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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Last MXE hole I saw the void open up in my bathroom and me get sucked in.. truly awemazing.
Lets see, on that point you weren't concerned in the least bit and went "Weeeee! See where it takes me!!" I'm like that too on MXE, amazing you can be comfortable with things so bizarre
Yeah its amazing actually. On psychedelics I am always a little wary / fearful, MXE and Ketamine just feel like home, like its the natural thing to do. Its one of the reasons I love them so much.
As well, even while deep in the hole, your head is still quite clear (only delusional).
As well, a lovely line of K during a hard trip can totally turn it around into awesomeness.
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The Whale said:
Definitely a 'carefree' quality that accompanies the amazement. I remember having my physical body feel like it was being stretched across the room and disassembled into pieces. Instead of fear though, I was like "wow, this is interesting..."
Yeah. When I was on my balcony and saw multiple suns and my balcony disappear and I was just floating there, my immediate reaction was "wow this is so amazing".
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There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K.
Edited by tymoteusz3 (08/16/11 06:34 AM)
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: tymoteusz3]
#14930275 - 08/16/11 06:35 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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I hope you're stocked up well Tymo, good things like these usually arent around for long. you know whats gonna happen with clubbers treating it like ketamine...
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14930285 - 08/16/11 06:38 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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I hope you're stocked up well Tymo, good things like these usually arent around for long. you know whats gonna happen with clubbers treating it like ketamine...
Yeah I have some but am gonna get another huge pile shortly. Its something I want to have for years and years and I don't see it lasting very long especially given the potential to have adverse effects at higher doses for those not expecting it / not capable of handling it.
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Psychedelic Love
(Ketamine + Psychedelics -- Floating on a cloud of color, Create your own blackroom for real life CEVs, A cure for nausea on shrooms)
Understanding and dealing with panic attacks from weed
Research Chemical Reviews
2CE, Methoxetamine
There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K.
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: tymoteusz3]
#14930325 - 08/16/11 06:50 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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100 grams can be had for under $1500. I cant just spend that kind of money but by golly that would be awesome to have.
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#14930341 - 08/16/11 06:54 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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100 grams can be had for under $1500. I cant just spend that kind of money but by golly that would be awesome to have.
Yeah I know
That would be an awesome lifetime supply however.
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Psychedelic Love
(Ketamine + Psychedelics -- Floating on a cloud of color, Create your own blackroom for real life CEVs, A cure for nausea on shrooms)
Understanding and dealing with panic attacks from weed
Research Chemical Reviews
2CE, Methoxetamine
There is NOTHING better than feeling that warm dissociative fuzz creeping up your body from IM K.
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Re: Methoxetamine - 90 milligrams of God [Re: tymoteusz3]
#14930428 - 08/16/11 07:13 AM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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One thing I love about this drug is that its highly thought provoking, like serotonin psychedelics, but actually gives you oceans of time the explore those thoughts. With shrooms I often feel rushed and flooded.
I heard someone accidentally took 950 milligrams of the stuff and lived. That doesnt mean we all will but does point at the possibility that the side effects profile might be on the benign side, as downers go.
When my RC supplier mixed up my shit putting me in the ER, he was so kind to send me a free baggie of 10 grams Methoxetamine. Considering I use 50-100mg in a session thats an awesome way to say sorry
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