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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Offlinehuxmush
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Re: The Big Bang & God as the Singularity [Re: Jufin]
    #14786278 - 07/18/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Remember the guy that writes the Dilbert comic? He also wrote this:

God's Debris

You can download the book as a PDF for free.

Seems relevant to this thread.

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Re: The Big Bang & God as the Singularity [Re: blingbling]
    #18330293 - 05/27/13 09:01 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

I made an account for the specific purpose of telling you that I want to have your babies. I've tried to get this exact thought process across so many minds. You have no idea how long I've been looking for a like minded individual.

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Re: The Big Bang & God as the Singularity [Re: Zepirothica]
    #18330312 - 05/27/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

God referred to himself as "The Alpha and the Omega." The beginning and the end of time is probably what he meant. We are what is in between. He is still here, but through every bit of matter in existence. Everything will revert back to God in the end times, a big crunch, if you will. Nobody made God though. I am I am has always been, just as we have, in some form or another. Life eternal is truly ours. :p

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Re: The Big Bang & God as the Singularity [Re: blingbling]
    #18331024 - 05/27/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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well if the singularity had to be destroyed to become the universe then god must be dead or maybe if the universe ends it will become the singularity again but who knows  its funny that no one has an answer (or at least a good one) but almost everyone thinks about it




Perhaps the universe never really was created but instead simply appeared to be. Maybe God projects it with his infinite imagination.

Of course "before" the big bang there was no time or space as they are it's effect. If there was no time or space was there matter? Was there energy? Scientists would like to imagine it to be something like "a black hole" because they want to explain the big bang in terms of things which only came to exist AFTER the big bang. They want a material cause for it because that is all they know. Strings, multiple universes, etc.. anything but the infinite universal perceiver.

For me there is no explanations like that of Meher's in God Speaks and his other various elaborate discourses in which these questions are in fact explained. The real cause of the big bang is not a material cause because there is no matter in the formless beyond beyond.


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Re: The Big Bang & God as the Singularity [Re: blingbling]
    #18331088 - 05/27/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

jus posting so i can read later :thumbup:


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Re: The Big Bang & God as the Singularity [Re: Zepirothica]
    #18331968 - 05/28/13 05:03 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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Zepirothica said:
I made an account for the specific purpose of telling you that I want to have your babies.




:thisisheavyman:


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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.

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Re: The Big Bang & God as the Singularity [Re: blingbling]
    #18333584 - 05/28/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

:lol:

Babies...??

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Re: The Big Bang & God as the Singularity [Re: blingbling]
    #18334220 - 05/28/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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blingbling said:
some scientists believe that just before the big bang their was a singularity (like a black hole i guess) which contained all things. if the singularity contained all things including all knowledge then it would not be to presumptuous to call this thing god. although i prefer singularity which has less cultural conitations. for one reason or another this thing exploded and became the universe as we know it making us all a piece of the singularity. what do you think of this theory? hokus pokus mumbo jumbo? or possible explanation of god and our place in the universe? you decide!!




Yeah. I think all black holes are conscious. They are conscious of all the electromagnetic radiation they absorb, just like we are conscious of all the photons our eyes absorb. Consciousness is absorption, and what absorbs more than a black hole? A black hole is a cosmic eye that sees more of the universe than our telescopes will ever be able to.

Edited by Zanthius (05/28/13 05:14 PM)

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Re: The Big Bang & God as the Singularity [Re: Zanthius]
    #18334646 - 05/28/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 9 months ago)

we are not conscious of all the photons our eyes absorb just as we are not coscious of all the sounds that our ears pick up. our attention is limited. there is a lot that does not get through.


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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.

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Re: The Big Bang & God as the Singularity [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18337918 - 05/29/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 9 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
The Omniscient ONE, 'contracted' the Infinite Density to form a 'vacuole' in the midst of Infinitude. Into that 'contraction,' a point, a Singular point of designation in an Infinite Pleroma, all manner of energy was poured along with the immanence of Creative Intelligence (which is what God is called in Transcendental Meditation, but is suitably descriptive here). In Kabbalah, the Singularity has a name - Tsimtsum. Even now, at the receding horizon at the 'edge' of the expanding universe, that bubble which is the universe is pushing omnidirectionally outward into the Unmanifest Being of God. :wink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsimtsum





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MarkostheGnostic said:
For all his incredulity and comedic stance, Terrance doesn't say anything here. In fact, he is a prisoner of his own rational processes. The Singularity of the Big Bang did not arise "in empty space." There WAS no space. The entire universe of space, extension, and hence duration and time emerged from the Singularity. The universe was unmanifest prior to 10 to the -43 seconds ago. It was, for lack of a better explanation, Ideas in the Mind of God, which were 'externalized' from the Divine Essence, as the Divine Essence withdrew omnidirectionally to form a 'vacuole,' like an amoeba's cytoplasm forming a food vacuole.  The Singularity expanded instantly and rapidly in nanoseconds. It is estimated that the energy released was so hot, that subatomic particle nature didn't form for 300,000 years. But Ideas, Eternal Ideas, are built into the fabric of space-time. Even on this planet alone, the variety of living cells, plants, and animals reveals similarities yet great novelties. How many worlds have life, and how many different modes of perception and apperception are available to the Creator through which [S]He may Know Him-Herself?




^ wot e sed

:rasta:


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"Everything there is, and all that there is, is a Pattern of unspeakable proportion. The Pattern contains everything that is, completely fixed in succession, all the minimal particles interconnected in every way that is. Every way that is is not every conceivable way, because not everything that can be conceived is manifest in the pattern."

"THE Human, you, is a miniscule but essential part of that pattern. In it lies complete fulfillment. It will never become something it is not, but it will never need to be anything else." - Wiccan_Seeker

"If boring drudgery was the way of the universe, everything would have killed itself long ago." - Spacerific

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