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 The Chronic
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 Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: seylm]
#14438573 - 05/12/11 02:39 AM (1 year, 19 days ago) |
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Sri Bhagavan: People would not understand the simple and bare truth - the truth of their every day, ever-present and eternal experience. That Truth is that of the Self. Is there anyone not aware of the Self? They would not even like to hear it (the Self), whereas they are eager to know what lies beyond - heaven, hell, reincarnation. Because they love mystery and not the bare truth, religions pamper them - only to bring them round to the Self. Wandering hither and thither you must return to the Self only. Then, why not abide in the Self even here and now? The other worlds require the Self as a spectator or speculator. Their reality is only of the same degrees as that of the spectator or thinker. They cannot exist without the spectator, etc. Therefore they are not different from the Self. Even the ignorant man sees only the Self when he sees objects. But he is confused and identifies the Self with the object, i.e., the body and with the senses and plays in the world. Subject and object - all merge in the Self. There is no seer nor objects seen. The seer and the seen are the Self. There are not many selves either. All are only one Self.
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 Kettleballz
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: The Chronic]
#14454642 - 05/15/11 01:10 AM (1 year, 16 days ago) |
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Difference is only by degree and not of kind, the secret to everything is oneness!
- Vivekananda
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Take me to the river, drop me in the water..
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UK Explorer
Viva La Colonización!
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: Kettleballz]
#14480633 - 05/19/11 06:52 PM (1 year, 11 days ago) |
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Go placidly amid the noise and the haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible, without surrender,
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even to the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons;
they are vexatious to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain or bitter,
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs,
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals,
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love,
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.
And whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace in your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.
Max Ehrmann, 1927
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Sobercolober
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: UK Explorer] 1
#14493550 - 05/22/11 10:19 AM (1 year, 9 days ago) |
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"The description is not the described."
Jiddu Krishnamurti
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OneU
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"You can go as far as you want and as fast as you want. The choice is yours." - Medicine Man
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The Chronic
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: OneU]
#14519246 - 05/27/11 02:34 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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When the ultimate reality is gained, what happens?
Nothing happens.
Even to speak of it as a 'gain' is to use figurative language.
It is the 'sahaja' (natural) state, one's eternal experience that was never truly lost. Only it appeared so.
Being 'that' is being oneself, for oneself is 'that'.
- Ramana (40 verses on Reality)
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Edited by The Chronic (05/27/11 10:04 AM)
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Lavo
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: seylm]
#14527921 - 05/28/11 06:45 PM (1 year, 2 days ago) |
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'Life is a waterfall, were one in the river and one again after the fall'
-system of a down
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EarthTalker
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: Lavo]
#14538011 - 05/30/11 08:27 PM (1 year, 16 hours ago) |
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Despite me being a Dharmic syncretic (mostly Hinduism and Buddhist elements), I have alot of respect for this quote as it shows Christianity as inherently anti-capitalist:
There was no needy person among them, for those who owned property or houses would sell them, bring the proceeds of the sale, and put them at the feet of the apostles, and they were distributed to each according to need. (ACTS 4:34-35)
I think christianity makes sense more when you look at it with an anti-capitalist perspective.
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: The Chronic]
#14582592 - 06/08/11 10:00 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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I prefer to ask all that is for protection and continued guidance, because it can be known only to me how many times I have been delivered from the hand of the enemy. I ask only to renew old promises and remain in the good graces that life has always offered me, even in the drought. If I live or if I die, every breath I take can change. I hope to accomplish for the worlds sake the task of working with spiritual energy.
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circastes
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: Two_Swarm]
#14603601 - 06/12/11 10:06 PM (11 months, 11 days ago) |
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Who says God has created this world? We have created it by our own imagination.
Baba
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Find me in the backyard, sailing my kettle. Playing poker with insects, wearing a cup of tea. A hat of brimstone, yellow-crimson, looking like a giant flea. Forever my friend: so my energy this day I lend, I practice faking it to pretend, and become the actor in the end. My folly hangs on the trees like leaves and drips in the falling breeze, the tock of a minute here shakes me to my knees.
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WScott
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: seylm]
#14605367 - 06/13/11 09:22 AM (11 months, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
seylm said:
"All ignorance has been started by shepherds. Shepherds are for sheep. I trust that you are lions. Lions are not to be herded; wherever they go they are on their own track." - Papaji
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Shabd_Mystic
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: WScott]
#14679781 - 06/27/11 11:31 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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"Do not be satisfied with the stories that come before you. Unfold your own myth." - Rumi
How will you become a clear mirror if you resent being polished? ~ Rumi
“No other means is better than the Sound (Shabd) for transcending the concealments of creation." ~ Maharshi Mehi
“The path of love is as sharp and as narrow as the edge of a sword. There is room for only one to tread it.” ~ Sawan Singh, the "Great Master"
"In the eyes of the ego, self-esteem and humility are contradictory. In truth, they are one and the same." ~ Eckhart Tolle
"Good actions and bad actions are both binding, like chains of gold or chains of iron." ~ Lord Krishna
"The Truth is one, but the Wise speak of it in various ways." ~ The Rig Veda
"When Love lit up the cage, my soul was flooded with Light." ~ Kabir
“Stop talking and thinking, and there is nothing you will not be able to know.” ~ Seng Ts'an
“I never give God thanks for loving me, because He cannot help it.” ~ Meister Eckhart
"The greatest barrier to consciousness is the belief that one is already conscious." ~ P.D. Ouspensky
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SteezeMonkey
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I might have posted these before, but they're good enough to post again anyway.
Eternity belongs to those who live in the present. -Ludwig Wittgenstein
Long you live and high you'll fly
and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
and all you touch and all you see
is all your life will ever be. -Pink Floyd
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world. -Buddha
When you realize how perfect everything is you will tilt your head back and laugh at the sky. -Buddha
Quote:
Shabd_Mystic said:
"The greatest barrier to consciousness is the belief that one is already conscious." ~ P.D. Ouspensky
Really digging this one!
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mushroomcloud9
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Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators the creator seeks--those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest.
Friedrich Nietzsche
"Thus Spoke Zarathustra"
One of my favorite Nietzsche quotes.
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angel100
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"it seems we humans look for superiority. and the minute that happens the right to control the inferior is manifested..."
"to be saintly is as much a control mechanism as is to be beastly. if one is not to control and not to be controlled one must live in between the beast and the saint"
"one character we forget in war is Mother Earth."
~Violeta de Bocage
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beware of contradictions. i'm everywhere.
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CityZen
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: angel100] 1
#14744012 - 07/10/11 04:12 AM (10 months, 15 days ago) |
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Regarding quotes, I've observed that there is a certain category which say absolutely nothing except they connect opposites in an counter-intuitive way, and this artificially generates certain meaning to the reader. Most trivial examples: "All is Nothing (and eventually Nothing is All)", "I am God", "Eternity is the smallest time spec so live in the present to become immortal", "Everything is Illuminated" aso
And then there are the thefts. Some quotes are stolen and refurbished by some modern Babas or Gurus. Example: "Life is a bridge over the sea of changes. Do not build a house on it" - Sri Sathya Sai Baba. This is direct theft from the Thomas gnostic Gospel. And I am not surprised as long as Sai Baba was a total 100% fraud.
This is why it is preferable to discern through the fake meanings when adopting a quote, by having as a criterion the necessity that the quote be specific and smart in itself, not only getting great words copulating within the same phrase.
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angel100
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: CityZen]
#14746747 - 07/10/11 04:10 PM (10 months, 14 days ago) |
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lmao, so true about the stealing of quotes. had an argument some months ago about a quote. i was swearing the quote was by a writer and the other person swore the quote was by j. lenin. after some research we found out that both had said the same thing. felt stupid after that.
anyway, don't care much if someone took it and revamped it or if it seems counter-intuitive. all that matters is if the reader gets something new out of it.
"all is nothing" yah its crazy such a simple quote of 3 words became so well-known. at same time, for spiritual people it has something important to say or something great to ponder on. like life is basically full of shit. if you reincarnate and return 10 centuries later to any planet, including earth, nothing will be the same. all your likes and interests will be different. everything you fought for--politics, religion, love, class, race--won't matter a damn. everything and all that you were and did will be worth nothing in this new life.
exception to the rule--if you could remember past lives then all is everything. but then again maybe thats why most of us can't remember a damn thing.
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beware of contradictions. i'm everywhere.
Edited by angel100 (07/10/11 04:44 PM)
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angel100
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: angel100] 1
#14746876 - 07/10/11 04:34 PM (10 months, 14 days ago) |
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here are another 3 quotes that i like...
I conceive that the land belongs to a vast family of which many are dead, few are living, and countless numbers are still unborn.
~A Chieftan from Nigeria
Thank God men cannot fly, and lay waste the sky as well as the earth.
~Henry David Thoreau
------he didnt know yet that we'd create a mass of flying objects that'd do the work for us. but still gotta admire the words.
Books can only reveal us to ourselves, and as often as they do us this service we lay them aside.
~Henry David Thoreau
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beware of contradictions. i'm everywhere.
Edited by angel100 (07/10/11 04:47 PM)
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CityZen
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: angel100]
#14750696 - 07/11/11 09:59 AM (10 months, 14 days ago) |
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"All is Nothing" and quotes like this may be true, but they are logically and operationally null. Let's imagine there was a world where in fact "All" is not "Nothing" and someone would utter "All is Nothing". How do you prove him wrong? So the phrase is flawed even if it may be true.
It's second leak is that virtually anyone may impersonate a great mystical master by only emitting this sort of assertions and no one could contradict him even though he is an idiot.
The most important value of a message is the fact that it emanates from a certain human being as they form a whole sense only blended together. These generic quotes are like prepacked wisdom kits.
Ontopic, here is a recent quote from a Russian journalist in an essay on recent international politics:
"Conspiracy theorists seek to create a world that we can understand – a world in which someone is in control. The reality is much bleaker. Nobody is in control, not even those who sincerely believe they are." (http://en.rian.ru/columnists/20110707/165071379.html)
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angel100
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 Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: CityZen]
#14752629 - 07/11/11 04:40 PM (10 months, 13 days ago) |
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"All is Nothing" and quotes like this may be true, but they are logically and operationally null. Let's imagine there was a world where in fact "All" is not "Nothing" and someone would utter "All is Nothing". How do you prove him wrong? So the phrase is flawed even if it may be true.
philosophically speaking, how do you prove anything wrong or right, logical or illogical? there is no absolute truth here. even a basic theory on the existence of a god has holes in it. life on earth is a consistent flaw, a big blob of truths, half truths, falsehood, relativity, and conditioning. lol!!! that's the great thing about philosophy, it's thoughtfully senseless.  you can go around and around and never come to an absolute conclusion.
now in science, there are conclusions. but then there are how many fuck-ups too? the minute a scientist says he found a solution, a scientific law or a cure, some other problem or mutation comes up and then becomes the exception to that solution. sometimes the rule is even changed, an example, the planet being flat.
so, personally i don't believe any quote (that is meant to be thought-provoking) to be completely illogical and operationally null nor completely logical and unflawed. each has its relative validity, all depending on the person who reads it. if someone can say a quote makes sense, then the quote makes sense to them even when others say it's stupid. in other words, these words in my response to you, are full of crap for those that get nothing out of it, but then again full of gold for those that do get something out of them. the same goes with your theory. i totally get what you say. you make a valid point.
like i said earlier, philosophy is thoughtfully senseless.
It's second leak is that virtually anyone may impersonate a great mystical master by only emitting this sort of assertions
everyone who is striving to better himself is impersonating someone or something. everyone starting out in the mystical world imitates a mystic they admire until they are superior enough to create their own theories. it's the same thing in music. when you're learning to play the piano you start out mastering and copying great past musicians like chopin. that's the thing about putting great theories, art and recipes out to the public. people will read them, love them, use them and soon adopt them until it becomes so much a part of them it no longer belongs to the original owner. that is the case for everything in our society, even our laws came from an older source.
and no one could contradict him even though he is an idiot.
of course people can contradict him. if a theory is wrong (according to your views) then people should discuss why it is wrong. that's the only way for anyone to move forward, including the person with the theory. if you are afraid to disagree with an "imposter", then you yourself have issues (self-esteem, opportunistic, selling-out...) if people can disagree and criticize presidents, popes, rabbis, parents, newscaster, celebrities and teachers why can't they contradict and criticize mystics?
The most important value of a message is the fact that it emanates from a certain human being as they form a whole sense only blended together.
hmmh... so are you saying someone who is not enlightened or mystically trained can't provide a message that is valuable? if that's what you are saying, then your comment is spiritually/mystically classist and i must partially disagree with you. yes, an enlightened one has more enlightened beliefs to impart. but the less enlightened one has beliefs to impart that are valuable too. everyone has something to teach. even the homicidal, schizo, racist, relgio-extremist pig has something to teach.
Ontopic, here is a recent quote from a Russian journalist in an essay on recent international politics: "Conspiracy theorists seek to create a world that we can understand – a world in which someone is in control. The reality is much bleaker. Nobody is in control, not even those who sincerely believe they are."
interesting quote. irony is... conspiracy theories only create more confusion even for the conspiracy theorist. some of them look like they've gone to hell and back. and i guess they have. and here's another apropos generic quote, "ignorance is bliss". at the same time, someone's gotta do the dirty work. sucks for them it's a physically, psychically, spiritually and mentally dangerous job.
anyway, back to your topic, i can see how the quote probably doesn't do much for an international political essay. it's not specific; so one can come away believing anything. but then who cares... as long as someone got something out of the essay.
anyway, it's my belief people get what they are and what they know. if you are all about love and compassion then you will see it everywhere. if you're about conspiracy then you will see conspiracy everywhere. in this quote, i get once again, nothing is absolute on earth. here we thought policitians controlled absolutely everything. then came the illuminatis. then the new world order elitists. now, at last comes the ever-present aliens. it's like a cat chasing its tail.
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beware of contradictions. i'm everywhere.
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