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Re: just caught my wife... [Re: greys]
#14651027 - 06/21/11 11:38 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Well, of course this generation didn't invent it. The media has however made it more popular, and the rise of teenage pregnancy has been increasing over the years. I'm pretty sure that's his point.
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Anonymous #7
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There should be tests and minimum qualifications before a couple is allowed to reproduce. IMO
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closed veil
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well, in MN you can't get a vasectomy unless you are 27 or have 4 children. we're fascist about ppl not having kids, why not have fascist laws regulating reproduction?
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Anonymous #4
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Anonymous said: There should be tests and minimum qualifications before a couple is allowed to reproduce. IMO
Tests? Like that's ever going to happen anyway...
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Anonymous said: There should be tests and minimum qualifications before a couple is allowed to reproduce. IMO
Tests? Like that's ever going to happen anyway...
I bet thats what people in the 1700s used to say about the prospect of the internet, and being able to video-conference (words they wouldn't even understand) with someone who ison the other side of the world, with near-zero delay, for free.
so :holdyourtongue:
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closed veil said: well, in MN you can't get a vasectomy unless you are 27 or have 4 children.
as if you cant leave Minnesota. You have to start thinking outside the box man. srsly.
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Re: just caught my wife... [Re: meams]
#14651558 - 06/22/11 01:12 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: There should be tests and minimum qualifications before a couple is allowed to reproduce. IMO
Tests? Like that's ever going to happen anyway...
I bet thats what people in the 1700s used to say about the prospect of the internet, and being able to video-conference (words they wouldn't even understand) with someone who ison the other side of the world, with near-zero delay, for free.
so :holdyourtongue:
they had pc's in the 1700s?

my internet access aint free and my pc wasnt either 
china has regulations on parenting already though, not saying thats a good approach.
who knows what is? maybe birth control, maybe education or maybe both.
i have also had buddies who've done the same thing and it seems situations like aforementioned
are damn common and could be avoided. its really just selfishness IMO , raising a kid while separated.
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Re: just caught my wife... [Re: greys]
#14651662 - 06/22/11 01:39 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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closed veil said: well, in MN you can't get a vasectomy unless you are 27 or have 4 children.
as if you cant leave Minnesota. You have to start thinking outside the box man. srsly.
well i'm over 27 so it doesn't matter to me, i just think the very idea of the law is crazy.
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i find reproduction regulation laws completely crazy. let nature sort that shit out!
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Re: just caught my wife... [Re: dummy]
#14651886 - 06/22/11 02:34 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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aren't you the same user that was proud of being a dead-beat dad?
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no. no kids. was that some sort of attack?
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Re: just caught my wife... [Re: dummy]
#14652139 - 06/22/11 04:01 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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no. some user posted something about being a dead-beat dad like he was proud of it. thought it was you. my mistake.
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Testing for babies is not only a violation of our rights, but an impingement on religious views. Honestly there's some trash out there, working on baby number 6, only the 2nd meth baby, but the 3rd to be exposed to her HIV, all in an attempt to get a large welfare check. Believe me if we could regulate it'd be great, but that's as fascist as saying what closed veil mention. I know of couples (same sex) that would make better parents than 30-50% of parents, possibly more, but aren't allowed, or harassed for adopting. It's like breeding dogs. Those puppy mills are flooding the market when there's perfectly good ones in foster care, shit some even potty trained lol. Yes I did compare us humans to dogs, overpopulation takes many shapes an forms, as does neglect amd abuse.
Back on topic tho, if that anonymous post was in fact homeboy's wife, they have bigger things to worry about than being dead beats or immature. I know it sounds selfish, but if they can't tale care of themselves and ensure their well being, they're only harming their child.
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Anonymous #6
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Re: just caught my wife... [Re: fngbronco] 1
#14653408 - 06/22/11 12:58 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I see absolutely nothing immature or unintelligent about not wanting to raise a child in a situation where his mother is unhappy and just sticking around so he can have 'a picture perfect family'
I think that there are many different ways to raise a child. The biological mom and dad shouldn't feel like they have to stay together just for the kid. Especially if one of them isn't happy. I've tried to express this multiple times. What's been said here is really only the tail end of the story, everything building up to that point wasn't mentioned at all in the OP.
I've been trying to, for the past year, explain that I'm not happy in this relationship and that I love him as the father of my child but that's about it. Our relationship has been weird from the beginning.
The kids shouldn't have kids thing is true, sure. But there are tons of people who love each other and are in relationships for a long time that are still kids having kids and the way that they raise their children is still determined by what is the social norm. Sit them in front of tv all day, take them to church, dictate to them what they can and can not do instead of helping them learn how to make decisions, etc.
If you think that anything that I have done or will continue to do is just because I am an unintelligent and immature person, then perhaps you should consider that you don't know all of the details of the situation that you are choosing to judge.
I have been in constant inner struggle over what is the right thing to do for a long time now. At some point, yes, that stress caused me to make some bad decisions. If you've never made a single bad decision in your life then by all means, continue to play the judge. No matter how many ways I have said 'I am unhappy here.' it has fallen on deaf ears.
First it was I want to move, there is so much pressure here from your family that I feel like I can't be myself and it is getting to me. Then, that you're pessimistic about everything and I can't be around this any more because it is causing me severe mental anguish. Over and over again I have run myself in circles because of this. No matter what I say, it changes nothing. I did something drastic, crazy things started to happen, but now some changes are actually being made.
I see no reason that we can't both continue to be civil toward one another in spite of all that has been said and done between us. I just want what I have always wanted. For us to both find a way that we can both be happy.
I think there's too much emphasis being placed on that we're losing something by splitting up. Sure, we are losing the opportunity to live with our son every single day. But the environment that he's in has been one of depression for a long time now. What do we have to gain? Him living with us separately and being able to see both of us happy... Giving him an opportunity to have not only 2 people who love him, but possibly 4...
I really don't see how more people loving my child is a bad thing.
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Anonymous said: I see absolutely nothing immature or unintelligent about wanting to raise a child in a situation where his mother is unhappy and just sticking around so he can have 'a picture perfect family'
I can tell you from first-hand experience that It. Does. Not. Work. The family might be picture perfect in some respects and at some times, but it will in reality be a strained, perpetual conflict.
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Re: just caught my wife... [Re: koraks]
#14653552 - 06/22/11 01:28 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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My mom and dad stuck it out 23 years. My mom didn't want to be married to my dad and it was obvious throughout my childhood. They both still did everything right for us kids. Yeah it screwed them up, but they stuck through it til we were out. It sucks yeah and if there was another option for them they'd have done it. They showed us kids that no matter how hard shit gets you don't give up.
Realistically #6 it was very immature and wrong and adulterous IMO that you'd not wait until you filed a divorce and completed it. You're married! I know other people wouldn't agree and would jump ship before letting the passengers off. People think of marriage as "the right thing to do" but don't realize that it's something more than that, or they won't admit it. They're too quick to go in with their loves even while they've got a contract with someone else. If someone in the NFL went to play for a different team before their contract expired they'd be fined pretty big I'm sure. Suck it up, do the right thing, and wait for shit to be completed before you go around starting something new. It's called respect (and that doesn't only apply to you #6 it applies to everyone).
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Re: just caught my wife... [Re: koraks]
#14653973 - 06/22/11 02:51 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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I can tell you from first-hand experience that It. Does. Not. Work. The family might be picture perfect in some respects and at some times, but it will in reality be a strained, perpetual conflict.
I left out the word 'not' before wanting. sorry. I tried to go back and edit it but the connection was going really slow. It's just now working again and you already quoted it before I could edit
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Re: just caught my wife... [Re: fngbronco]
#14653984 - 06/22/11 02:54 PM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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also, I'm not even talking to that guy any more. I told him to quit talking to me. He's just someone I've known since I was a kid and has been my friend through a lot of shit when a lot of other people had quit talking to me or just abandoned me as a friend.
But anyway, just to clear all of that up. Apologies were made all around and we are no longer speaking.
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