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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14565613 - 06/05/11 07:32 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Icelander said: You are going off topic here. More proof of Conspiracy? Let's let the others decide. 
maybe ou're just trying to cover up the fact that you're a secret mod
That's not true but I have recently received evidence that the mods have me on Double Secret Probation and are waiting to strike.
What have I ever done to anyone here? Nothing that's what. I just try to help everyone and this is the thanks I get. Conspired against in secret.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14565801 - 06/05/11 08:21 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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ivander said: Ice.. I must say, you are onto something. This forum is just crazy. Most interesting case for me was when mods locked and unlocked each other threads..
you cant prove that ever happened 
Does not mean it did not happen.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: ivander]
#14565816 - 06/05/11 08:26 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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this is prisoner.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: Icelander]
#14576633 - 06/07/11 10:50 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Icelander said: What have I ever done to anyone here?
you asked questions
questions like this one
questions that will lead to answers
answers you will not like
like, these are not the droids you are looking for
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rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14576688 - 06/07/11 10:58 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I like all the answers I get especially yours. I enjoy a good laugh.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: Icelander]
#14576694 - 06/07/11 10:59 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: Icelander]
#14578240 - 06/08/11 06:14 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: ivander]
#14578314 - 06/08/11 06:55 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Now hmmm m hold on one mo and heres me out. Now I have a real good sense of humour, and it also can be extremely surreal, so I am not mr serious, though I dont suppress seriousness, its.....to the point. This is what I notice. I was part of a thread, and made an effort to post a VERY deep post. I dont say this bragging. i KNOW that I was putting down a unique point of view. HOWEVER, a mod thjere--if i remember it was 'prisoner' just LOCKED it because he said someone had posted a vid without any 'argument' or some shit. Now, I look at THIS one..........................what do we see, a big percentage of posts are just posting emoticons...YET...YETthis is allowed apparently.........
So why is this. Is it so the the mods here make up the rules as they go along?
Now dont get me wrong. i HATE rules. I would love it as free as can be. Bu7t what i resent is people afforded power making UP the rules. So what do ya think? should i start a thread titled 'do mods make up the rules as they go along?'
It is personal also because i received a ban out of the blue quite recently and had this charming message and 'reason' for being banned with threat of permanent ban 'your banned for talking shit in the poitics forum' So I of course protested this disrespect and misuse of power to administration and was immediately reinstated. But that is EXACTLY what those of us who feel we are being fucked with need to be aware of and speak out against it.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: zzripz] 1
#14578805 - 06/08/11 11:16 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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It's only the OP that this rule applies to. Maybe it would be better if you read forum rules before posting in that forum and making claims about mods not following protocol.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: zzripz]
#14578809 - 06/08/11 11:17 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I mean, from my experience here it seems in the conspiracy thread the mods SUPPORT the ones who attack conspiracy theories. Am i right?
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: zzripz]
#14578830 - 06/08/11 11:23 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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I haven't been in this forum long enough to know.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: zzripz]
#14578895 - 06/08/11 11:41 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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zzripz said: I mean, from my experience here it seems in the conspiracy thread the mods SUPPORT the ones who attack conspiracy theories. Am i right?
I realize this isn't your style, but if you'd make a clear argument citing some evidence of this abuse rather than making all these vague posts, at least you could convince others, and maybe you'd get something changed.
If I was aware of any significant use of moderator powers to suppress particular viewpoints (other than tin the mystery forum where that's the rule), I would raise the issue myself. Posts like the ones you've been making for a while now aren't helpful however, because you provide nothing but bare claims with no specific examples or explanation how the conduct is abusive or improper.
As icelander points out: some of what you complain about seems to be just an ignorance of the rules, which you should read before claiming they aren't enforced fairly.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: johnm214]
#14578946 - 06/08/11 11:57 AM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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zzripz said: I mean, from my experience here it seems in the conspiracy thread the mods SUPPORT the ones who attack conspiracy theories. Am i right?
I realize this isn't your style, but if you'd make a clear argument citing some evidence of this abuse rather than making all these vague posts, at least you could convince others, and maybe you'd get something changed.
If I was aware of any significant use of moderator powers to suppress particular viewpoints (other than tin the mystery forum where that's the rule), I would raise the issue myself. Posts like the ones you've been making for a while now aren't helpful however, because you provide nothing but bare claims with no specific examples or explanation how the conduct is abusive or improper.
As icelander points out: some of what you complain about seems to be just an ignorance of the rules, which you should read before claiming they aren't enforced fairly.
Yes you have been on my case for a while now haven't you> ARE you a moderator here? What do you make of this: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14578928#14578928
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: zzripz] 1
#14579014 - 06/08/11 12:15 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Haven't you listened to or comprehended one thing I said to you about understanding the rules? I'm beginning to wonder if you're old enough to post here?
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: Icelander]
#14579197 - 06/08/11 01:01 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Only two mods here. Pris#1 and cosmo. From my personal observation, I would say I agree with zzripz stance, that prisoner is supporting those who attack (for the lack of better words) c.theorist. Cuz I dont see cosmo, except occasional posting, doing anything that stands out. While 99% posts are locked by prisoner.
Now dont think Im taking sides or trying to accuse anyone of anything. Its just my personal observation and its not a testimony for the court. OFC, I cant prove any of these claims also.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: Icelander] 1
#14579413 - 06/08/11 01:55 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Sometimes I wonder. There often seems to be no rhyme or reason to their actions and you can never get any information out of them. Are we being set up?
Shroomism is. He believes he is an alien from another galaxy or dimension. True story.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: Icelander]
#14579793 - 06/08/11 03:22 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Haven't you listened to or comprehended one thing I said to you about understanding the rules? I'm beginning to wonder if you're old enough to post here?
VERY ironic interjection there! You have just BROKE rules. your also not making sense. On one hand YOU see something wrong with the moderation, and then on other attack me for pointing it out? what is with you? you seem a bit confused
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: ivander]
#14579876 - 06/08/11 03:41 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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ivander said: Only two mods here. Pris#1 and cosmo. From my personal observation, I would say I agree with zzripz stance, that prisoner is supporting those who attack (for the lack of better words) c.theorist. Cuz I dont see cosmo, except occasional posting, doing anything that stands out. While 99% posts are locked by prisoner.
Now dont think Im taking sides or trying to accuse anyone of anything. Its just my personal observation and its not a testimony for the court. OFC, I cant prove any of these claims also.
EXACTLY! Dont apologize for your totally correct insight. See, what is happening is that a little cabal has more or less taken over the conspiracy forum with help from a moderator-prisoner- who shares their same beliefs, and thus they can hide behind him and get away with murder flouting all the rules and provoking people who have alternative beliefs, knowing that if they 'break a rule' or whatever they will be warned and banned!
THATS what is going on.
So it is complete BIAS and MISUSE of POWER, and what needs to happen is this injustice be protested above their heads, and those that do not share the in-house belief which is anti-conspiracy theories should support each other in this abuse of the Shroomery. I mean if we want to expose what is going on in the world out there, we need also expose what is happening in these little forums.
IF the administrators don't see anything wrong with this set-up, back up what is going on, then there is nothing to do but further protest this affair and gladly leave, and then spread the word about this around the internet.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: zzripz]
#14579948 - 06/08/11 03:58 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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IDK, I understand you point, but I would not go as fat to say that pris#1 is agent and part of cabal. To me this forum is one big(and not so funny) joke. So I dont take discussions and dramas presented here that much seriously.
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Re: Are the mods here aliens? [Re: ivander]
#14580017 - 06/08/11 04:16 PM (1 year, 11 months ago) |
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Yes you have been on my case for a while now haven't you> ARE you a moderator here?
I don't think I've been on your case, particularly. While I think we disagree more often than not and I feel we have different views, I don't think any interactions have been out of the ordinary. To be fair, you did call me a racist in our first conversation, but i don't think I let that influence my views of your posts. I don't think I've ever warned or banned you, either.
Yes, I am a moderator for the chemistry and science forums here- other forums I may deal with if the assigned moderators are logged out and something needs done or if our Illuminati liaison requests I handle it.
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What do you make of this: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14578928#14578928
I see you have a list of comments you attribute to a user. I don't see how this list establishes the bias or abuse amongst the moderator staff that you allege, as you've not suggested any moderator before me was even aware of these posts, let alone that they would have handled them differently if it had been you who made those posts or someone else.
You first complained about the post in #14578306 about 25 minutes after it was posted, and then started touting it as an example of biased moderating and special treatment being given to posters whom are the "moderator's pet" about three hours after that.
Do you have some reason to believe that if you had made that same post you would have received an infraction within three hours? As you've not indicated you even reported this issue and the comment is, even now, only something like 8.5 hours old, I doubt any moderator even looked at it before me. As such, its hard to see how this could document some abuse or double standard. Even if someone had seen the post, you don't provide any explanation for why you think it would have been treated differently if you or another poster authored the post.
(note: moderators don't always announce publicly when an infraction has been issued or when a user has been informally warned. I see you yourself have such infractions that lack an announcement in the thread in question. You should therefore be cautious in your presumptions of how other cases are handled if you haven't been told by the person in question or the moderator who handled it. Only forum-wide bans along with their duration and the category of the infraction are listed openly for the general user base to review.)
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ivander said: Only two mods here. Pris#1 and cosmo. From my personal observation, I would say I agree with zzripz stance, that prisoner is supporting those who attack (for the lack of better words) c.theorist. Cuz I dont see cosmo, except occasional posting, doing anything that stands out. While 99% posts are locked by prisoner.
What do you mean "supporting"? Moderators are free to discuss as any other user, and may share their own opinions. Plainly: they are not required to do anything except remain within the rules when they are participating as any other user might. Only when they are carrying out their official functions are they required to remain impartial and fair.
Personally, I don't really see why it matters what a moderator's personal beliefs are. Their personal views have nothing to do with whether they are unfair, biased, or competent, and I would think discriminating on moderator invitations on the basis of viewpoint would be exactly the kind of unfair discrimination zzripz is against.
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