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Question regarding kratom capsules
    #14572137 - 06/07/11 01:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Just got my first order: the 4-strain variety pack of capsules.  They seemed like the easiest way for a noob.  Had a few questions for those with kratom experience:

1) Which to try first?  Superior Bali, Green Vein Thai, Green Malay, or Maeng Da?  Mind you this will be my first time.

2) How much to take?  Again, first time with kratom.  No idea what to expect.  Website has some suggestions but not sure if that is for mild or heavy effect? 

3) What should I expect?  How long to kick in?  How long does it last?  Will I be able to function normally?  What are the odds of nausea using capsules?

4) How are capsules different (in effect) from whole leaf or tea?  Do they work the same?  Could I make tea from capsules?

Any and all guidance is most welcome.


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: backstop]
    #14573083 - 06/07/11 08:51 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

take 14 capsules of the Maeng Da.

if it's good stuff ~ 7 g is plenty.

be sure to take them on an empty stomach and preload on grapefruit juice.

It will take about an hour to kick in and can last up to 8 hours.

I'm a big fan. And imo there's only subtle differences in the effects of them all but Bali and Maeng Da seems to put you down more. The other two you named are on the more stimulating end esp. at the start. Malay is a personal fave fwiw.


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: lurkmode]
    #14587326 - 06/09/11 09:49 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't want to push it the first time so I did 10 caps/5 grams.  Didn't feel anything.  I'll do 7 next time but not hopeful.  Bad stuff? Caps less potent? Tea better?  The site I got it from said 1.5-2 grams I'd feel something.  Disappointing.


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: backstop]
    #14589578 - 06/10/11 11:23 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

tea is less potent and fucking nasty tasting.

You didn't take enough though you should have felt something.

You may be alright taking 20 capsules. That would be my best advice.

Did you take them on an empty stomach and drink grapefruit juice beforehand? Neither is necessary but they help, esp. the former.


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: lurkmode]
    #14589686 - 06/10/11 12:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

12-15 caps is my "sweet spot" dose


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: P-O]
    #14590205 - 06/10/11 01:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for the tips.  I started with 6 caps, then added 4 more 90 minutes later.  That probably didn't help things.  Not an empty stomach or juice either.  I was just being cautious.

Hard to say what I felt.  I did feel a little odd but I also only had 4 hours sleep the evening before.  One thing that did happen was I woke up seeing "colored LED lights swirling in the dark."  That lasted 20 seconds or so before I fell back asleep.

I will wait a day or two and do 14 caps of Maeng Da.  Will also avoid eating and drink some juice.  Again, thanks for helping a noob.


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: backstop]
    #14590248 - 06/10/11 02:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

im not a fan of Maeng Da.  felt like a "coffee buzz" , i cleaned for a few hours as i remember.  it had very little euphoria and didnt last long.


15 caps of super indo , or red vein and after 2 hours you will not wanna leave the couch.  standing/moving too much makes you lightheaded and a lil nauseated (never puked on kratom though).  euphoria is going strong and weed just makes it better.  this is the perfect time to game out hard on the ps3 :cool:


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: backstop]
    #14590256 - 06/10/11 02:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You guys must get some shitty Kratom. If you get some regular Thai capsules from arenaethnobotanicals.com you can seriously take 5-7 caps and feel nice. It's not just me either all of my friends take that same dose and we all agree that it feels like taking about 10-20mg of oxycontin.


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: Mikey851]
    #14593595 - 06/11/11 01:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I just checked out the arena bot site. Their caps are size 00 which I believe are a whole gram.  The caps I have are half-gram.  So your stuff may not be any stronger, you're just taking larger caps.


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: backstop]
    #14593939 - 06/11/11 03:27 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

()() are .5 im pretty sure.


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: backstop]
    #14594025 - 06/11/11 03:56 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I just checked out the arena bot site. Their caps are size 00 which I believe are a whole gram.  The caps I have are half-gram.  So your stuff may not be any stronger, you're just taking larger caps.




Could be....or maybe they grind it finer and stuff more in. Either way I like taking less caps :smile:


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: Mikey851]
    #14594613 - 06/11/11 08:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Since I did by the sampler pack I have a variety of strains to pick from.  The store gave me 24 Maeng Da (of which I have 14 left), 10 Green Thai, 10 Green Malay, and 24 Super Bali. 

I have enough for a full hit of Maeng Da but not enough of Thai and Malay.  I have plenty of Super Bali but I read that the Bali is less potent and I need to take more.  True?  I assume mixing strains in one hit is cool?  I will need to add the Bali when I take the Thai or Malay. Will I need to take 8 more caps instead of 4 to bring the hit up to par?


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: backstop]
    #14614046 - 06/14/11 09:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, second try...an even larger disappointment.

This time 14 caps (7g) of Maeng Da caps, plus one cap of Superior Bali for good luck.  15 caps in all.  Empty stomach, orange juice (sorry, no grapefruit).  One hour in felt a little buzzy.  Two hours in buzz fading in and out.  By the third hour, nothing but faint nausea.

So that probably means either the kratom I bought (from a supporting sponsor, btw) was complete crap, or I'm just immune to the stuff.  Which is a shame because from what I read of other people experiences I think I would really enjoy kratom. 

I may give another vendor a try just to be sure.  Any thoughts?


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Re: Question regarding kratom capsules [Re: Mikey851]
    #14617518 - 06/15/11 03:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Mikey851 said:
You guys must get some shitty Kratom. If you get some regular Thai capsules from arenaethnobotanicals.com you can seriously take 5-7 caps and feel nice. It's not just me either all of my friends take that same dose and we all agree that it feels like taking about 10-20mg of oxycontin.




Totally. There's definitely some bomb-ass leaf out there.

I used to get a certain non-enhanced, plain leaf SGM (super green malaysian) that I only needed 2-3 grams to get a super strong buzz, like 4 vic's. Plain leaf that good is rare, though.

But there are other factors, too - how fine the grind is, whether it's taken on a very empty stomach, how much water you drink with it, how long you wait to eat afterwards.

For me, I eat a mouthful of trail mix with my toss n wash kratom to tell the stomach to digest what's in there. Eating 45 mins - 1 hour after kratom boosts my high, too

Some leaf causes dizziness, but not all. Blends like 1:2 or 1:3 of Maeng Da : Bali work well, too


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