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Ratfish Oil
    #14537007 - 05/30/11 07:57 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Anyone been on this stuff at least 1-2 months?

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A drop of Ratfish oil on a sandwich daily is sufficient to prevent tooth decay.
It prevents hardening of arteries.
It removes the effects of chlorine, fluorine and bromine in the body.
It decalcifies. (Pineal gland is particularly mentioned along with the arteries)
His research indicates it to be the ultimate antioxidant source known to man, and that it contains a lot of Activator X.
Does not turn rancid in hundreds of years due to the large antioxidant content.




http://ratfishoil.com/

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Re: RatFish Oil - Chimaera Monstrosa Linnaeus NOW AVAILABLE [Dr Peterson]
For those interested, I've been taking Blue Ice fermented skate liver oil for a couple of months now, and third-eye activity has definitely increased.

In the 90s, I would see many things with eyes closed and as a layer over the 3d. Over the years, the visions went away. Now they're returning, and I'm very grateful.

Many thanks to those who suggested the product!




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Re: Ratfish Oil [Re: deranger]
    #14537043 - 05/30/11 08:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Eat healthy and your teeth will be fine. I'd say it's just another damn scam to make you spend money. It might help but honestly if you eat right you shouldn't need it.
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Re: Ratfish Oil [Re: deranger]
    #14537045 - 05/30/11 08:05 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

This is really strange.. My buddy just got diagnosed with a cyst around his pineal and he was talking something to me about water flouridation... He's got bi-polar and went for a scan related to that and something else.


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Re: Ratfish Oil [Re: hoodbran]
    #14537061 - 05/30/11 08:09 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Yah water fluoridation is a major problem and the funny thing is, is that the government is fucking pumping the fluoride into the god damn water. I only drink distilled water, you ain't going to catch me drinkin tap water.


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Re: Ratfish Oil [Re: deranger]
    #14537071 - 05/30/11 08:12 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ive just been researching it a bit. And I was just wondering:

1.) It's a bottom feeder, so whats the  heavy metal content like?
2.) The oil is coming from the LIVER, which is the body's filter and being a bottom feeder what residuals is it holding in? and the concentration of the 2 above.
3.) Its a near-threatened species apparently, how do they collect it? just selective fishing, or do fisheries just pull all their ratfish out of the nets and set em aside to be sold seperately from their regular catch?


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Re: Ratfish Oil [Re: hoodbran]
    #14537086 - 05/30/11 08:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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This is really strange.. My buddy just got diagnosed with a cyst around his pineal and he was talking something to me about water flouridation... He's got bi-polar and went for a scan related to that and something else.




huh, that's odd.  I'm interested in the possible de-calcification effects this oil might have. 

vedo, that is true.  though you don't know until you try.  and that testimonial got me thinking.


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Re: Ratfish Oil [Re: don_vedo]
    #14537095 - 05/30/11 08:18 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I was checking on a condition called agranulocytosis, a form of leukemia.  Found reports of this condition in cocaine users.  Something like 71% of coke in the US contains a cutting agent called levamisole (animal dewormer) and that the reason for adding it is unknown.. Yea, right! me thinks


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Re: Ratfish Oil [Re: deranger]
    #14537108 - 05/30/11 08:20 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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This is really strange.. My buddy just got diagnosed with a cyst around his pineal and he was talking something to me about water flouridation... He's got bi-polar and went for a scan related to that and something else.




huh, that's odd.  I'm interested in the possible de-calcification effects this oil might have. 

vedo, that is true.  though you don't know until you try.  and that testimonial got me thinking.




Ive done some reading and it seems a viable detox option.. but more reading's gotta be done.. Off to Athens...


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    #14537119 - 05/30/11 08:21 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Ive done some reading and it seems a viable detox option.. but more reading's gotta be done.. Off to Athens...




Spirulina and chlorella also some very viable detox options. Check them out!


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    #14537131 - 05/30/11 08:24 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Information and documentation list (In development - frequently updated)
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Douglas Laboratories,600 Boyce Road, Pittsburgh, PA 15205 (2010) Balanced amino acid formula
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Hao, D., Hammons, L.A., Eckhardt, S.G., Patnaik, A., Takimoto, C.H., Schwartz, G.H., Goetz, A.D., Tolcher, A.W., McCreery, H.A., Mamun, K., Williams, J.I., Holroyd, K.J. and Rowinsky, E.K. (2003). A phase I and Pharmacokinetic study of squalamine, an aminosterol anhiogenesis inhibitor. Clinical Cancer Research 9, 2465-2471.
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Hernández-Pérez, M., Gallego, R.M.M., Alayón, P.J.P. and Hernandéz, A.B. (1997). Squalene content in livers from deep-sea sharks caught in Canary Island waters. Mer. Freshwater Res. 48, 573-576.
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Collecting information and documentation, related to marine oils in general, and Ratfish oil in particular, is a painstaking job - that will continue for a long time. We are working particularly in finding better material in terms of the extended trials involving thousands of people in post-WWII years, (1945-1949) in relation to the oil's excellence, in combating caries. However, we have established that the anti-caries effects of the oil was a "side effect", that they were not aware of, before in the last years of the "experiment", and that from some sources - with its benefits in relation to cardiovascular vessel diseases - were the direct contributing cause of why the Ratfish oil was withdrawn from the market - and then finally disappeared. From som medical science sources there even was allegations, that the Ratfishoil could be toxic - to prevent further development of non-proprietary products. This could be interpreted "between the lines" by some more thorough review of research reports and their conclusions.

Why now, in recent years, it is possible to reconstruct much of the earlier research - is largely thanks to people like Dr. Pete Peterson and Dr. Bjørn Johan Øverbye, that now in these times focuses on some official marine oils excellence. Many who have been directly involved in this early research and that still are alive - now comes forward and tell of their experiences.

Moreover, it is a fact that in our sosial community it is “the big businesses” that manages and advises - and that they are fighting with "all means" to prevent good and affordable natural products to reach out to the market. In particular, "Big Pharma" - the great pharmaceutical industry - with its patented synthetic products - who are the most active in this role of “the game”. And their influence at all levels, and levels of society is indisputably documented. One significant example in recent times, The Swine Influenza vaccine, and WHO (World Health Organization). Here in this case, the future will tell us how they really worked that out.

To further strengthen the documentation of the Ratfish Oils excellent effects, we rely on you - “the children of the earth” – to provide us with it - if you should happen to come across relevant information.

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Re: Ratfish Oil [Re: deranger]
    #14537134 - 05/30/11 08:25 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

whatever that means.


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    #14537201 - 05/30/11 08:44 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I checked out webofknowledge, and some calcification occurs:

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Computed tomography studies concerning pineal calcification (PG) in schizophrenia have been conducted mainly by one author who correlated this calcification with several aspects of the illness. On the basis of these findings the aim of the present study was to analyze size and incidence of pineal gland calcification by CT in schizophrenics and healthy controls, and to verify the relationship between pineal calcification and age, and the possible correlation with psychopathologic variables. Pineal calcification was measured on CT scans of 87 schizophrenics and 46 controls divided into seven age subgroups of five years each. No significant differences in PC incidence and mean size between patients and controls were observed as far as the entire group was considered. PC size correlated with age both in schizophrenics and controls. We found a higher incidence of PG in schizophrenics in the age subgroup of 21-25 years, and a negative correlation with positive symptoms of schizophrenia in the overall group. These findings could suggest a premature calcific process in schizophrenics and a probable association with 'non-paranoid' aspects of the illness. Nevertheless the potential role of this process possibly related to some aspects of the altered neurodevelopment in schizophrenia is still unclear. (C) 1999 Elsevier, Paris.

Title: Computed tomography study of pineal calcification in schizophrenia
Author(s): Bersani G; Garavini A; Taddei I; et al.
Source: EUROPEAN PSYCHIATRY  Volume: 14  Issue: 3  Pages: 163-166  DOI: 10.1016/S0924-9338(99)80735-4  Published: JUN 1999
Times Cited: 7 (from All Databases)




thus calcification is caused by flouridation;

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Another WOK suggests calcification is related to sleep patterns;

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We classified the degree of pineal calcification (DOC) into seven groups using cranial Computer Tomography (cCT) and then correlated pineal DOC to chronic subjective sleep-related disturbances as measured by a sleep questionnaire in 36 patients. Analysed by logistic regression models, age and sex were not, but higher pineal DOC was significantly associated with the presence of daytime tiredness (OR = 4.15, 95% CI: 1.63, 10.54) and sleep disturbance (OR = 1.74, 95% CI: 1.10, 2.74). This study provides initial confirmation of the hypothesis that the increasing degree of pineal calcification (DOC) might indicate a decrease of melatonin production, which consecutively might lead to a disturbed circadian rhythmicity in the sleep-wake cycle, with the principal symptom being daytime tiredness. (C) 1998 Elsevier Science Ireland Ltd. All rights reserved.



On pineal calcification and its relation to subjective sleep perception: a hypothesis-driven pilot study
Author(s): Kunz D; Bes F; Schlattmann P; et al.
Source: PSYCHIATRY RESEARCH-NEUROIMAGING  Volume: 82  Issue: 3  Pages: 187-191  DOI: 10.1016/S0925-4927(98)00013-4  Published: JUN 30 1998
Times Cited: 17 (from All Databases)




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This looks interesting!


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Re: Ratfish Oil [Re: deranger]
    #14537229 - 05/30/11 08:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Any website that touts near impossible health benefit from a particular substance and then tries to sell you said substance is probably a scam.


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    #14537235 - 05/30/11 08:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

The town I live in banned fluoride from water because of health reasons.  I used to have a link to the court documents but lost them.


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    #14537340 - 05/30/11 09:11 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Any website that touts near impossible health benefit from a particular substance and then tries to sell you said substance is probably a scam.




Are you familiar with all the Norwegian research done on the oil?  Get off your high horse dude, this thread isn't about the website.


Skate liver oil is another interesting one.  Skate's are in the same family as Ratfish.

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Skates are members of the same family of fish as Ratfish and Sharks. They are bottom feeders and found in all oceans of the world. There is limited fishing of this fish as the market for their meat is limited to just a few cultures.

Skate livers are very large and produce a very deep orange pigmented oil. I knew little of this fish species but was told by an old Russian fisherman that i needed to make this oil. He spoke broken English so the conversation on the subject was short and to the point.

Since the Skate Liver oil introduction I have found many historical writings on the use of Skate liver oil during the 18th and 19th centuries. I am particularly intrigued by the comparison between Dr. Prices notes on the color of oils that he identified as rich in activator X and the skate liver oil's deep rich orange color.





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QQ is a Newly identified vitamin.. see below. More info on PQQ can be found on the WWW


PQQ has been found in the products we offer. PQQ is very high in the HVBO and even higher in the FCLO. Other unidentified peaks or related molecules are positioned just before or just after the HPLC PQQ peak in the HVBO/ Skate Liver oil and the FCLO.  All Three Products show different peaks of interest . : Lab technicians conducting the test were gushing all over the PQQ analysis including the other peaks on the graph.... below is a quick reference


Vitamin-Like PQQ Offers Antioxidant, Neuroprotective, and Mitochondrial Health Benefits

Posted on November 6, 2010 by Alison
PQQ (Pyrroloquinoline quinone) may be the first new vitamin to be identified in over five decades. While the compound was first identified in 1979, its presence and function in animals has only started to be understood in the last decade. It’s been found to have antioxidant and neuroprotective properties as well as contributing to mitochondrial health. It is thought to work as as enzyme cofactor somewhat like vitamin B3 (niacin) and vitamin B2 (riboflavin) and so someday may be grouped as one of the B vitamins which, like PQQ, are also water-soluble nutrients.

(from PQQ is the first new vitamin in 55 years)

PQQ was discovered in 1979 from a bacterium, and afterward it was reported to be in common foods. Because PQQ-deprived mice showed several abnormalities, such as poor development and breakable skin, PQQ has been considered as a candidate for vitamin. It was a mystery, however, with what enzyme PQQ is connected, preventing PQQ from being recognized as a vitamin. In this study, we discovered a mammalian PQQ-linked enzyme. The enzyme was involved in the degradation of the amino acid lysine, and it required PQQ to function normally. This brand-new vitamin will be also important for humans, and we are hoping for a great contribution in medical fields.


PQQ’s Effects on Mitochondria
Recent research suggests it helps mitochondria function better (somewhat like the antioxidant and coenzyme CoQ10) and to form new mitochrondia. The mitochondria are chemical energy factories in cells. Human cells can have from a few to hundreds per cell. Aging humans suffer from damage to their mitochondria and declining numbers of mitochondria. Mitochondrial damage and depopulation is thought to be a major factor in some diseases, particularly those involving energy-intensive organs like the brain, heart, and liver. PQQ appears to both help mitochondria avoid oxidative damage and to help form new mitochondria.

Research reported in 2006 shows that PQQ-deficient mice suffer a reduction in the number of mitochondria in their liver cells:


When pyrroloquinoline quinone (PQQ) is added to an amino acid-based, but otherwise nutritionally complete basal diet, it improves growth-related variables in young mice. We examined PQQ and mitochondrial function based on observations that PQQ deficiency results in elevated plasma glucose concentrations in young mice, and PQQ addition stimulates mitochondrial complex 1 activity in vitro. PQQ-deficient weanling mice had a 20–30% reduction in the relative amount of mitochondria in liver; lower respiratory control ratios, and lower respiratory quotients than PQQ-supplemented mice (2 mg PQQ/kg diet).

PQQ’s Effects on Brain Function
Research published in 2007 shows that PQQ works together with CoQ10, another nutrient critical for mitochondrial function, to improve learning ability in rats and helped counter the effects of hyperoxia (elevated blood oxygen) that impairs brain function and memory by causing oxidative damage to neurons. Damage to neurons from oxidation is suspected to be involved in neurodegenerative conditions including Alzheimer’s disease and Parkinson’s disease.

PQQ supplementation appears to help form new memories in rats learning mazes.


CoQ10 did not improve the learning function of the rats, so that no synergistic efficacy was observed by the concurrent supplementation of PQQ and CoQ10. At the late stage of the trials, the rats fed a PQQ-, CoQ10- and (PQQ + CoQ10)-supplemented diets showed higher learning rates than the control rats. However, the efficacies of the supplementations showed no significant difference. From these results, PQQ is likely more effective in improving the learning ability of the rats using space cognition than CoQ10 itself.

It also appears that PQQ helps retain memories despite oxidative stress on the rats.


After the rats learned the location of the platform in the pool, the effect of hyperoxia as oxidative stress on memory function was assessed. When the rats were subjected to hyperoxia as oxidative stress for 48 h, they retained their memories within four days after the oxidative stress treatment. However, their memories suddenly declined five days after the oxidative stress treatment, as previously reported [8]. The rats fed either the PQQ- or CoQ10-supplemented diet showed memory retention even after the oxidative stress treatment for 48 h. Furthermore, the rats fed the concurrent diet of PQQ and CoQ10 showed marked the memory retention (Fig. 2).

PQQ In Diet
PQQ in the diet is not yet well understood. Some are characterizing it as similar to B family nutrients like biotin and folic acid in its presence in food. But PQQ easily transforms into other related compounds that may obscure the total amount of PQQ consumed, so some estimates are that the typical human PQQ consumption per day without supplements might be as high as 1 to 2 milligrams. It is believed to be well-absorbed (around 85% absorption) and not toxic in dosages of less than 60mg per day in humans based upon testing that included complete blood chemistry, liver, and kidney function tests. Some mice and rat studies suggest that the toxicity doesn’t become apparent except with daily dosages of beyond 250mg per kg of body mass.




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    #14537505 - 05/30/11 09:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not on a high horse, just skeptical of these sorts of claims. In the 90's there were claims of fantastic health benefits from drinking concentrated Hydrogen Peroxide. All that will do is kill you liver in actuality. Be that as it may, a good rule of thumb is if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.


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a good rule of thumb is if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.




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    #14537637 - 05/30/11 10:15 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: RatFish Oil - Chimaera Monstrosa Linnaeus NOW AVAILABLE [Dr Peterson]
For those interested, I've been taking Blue Ice fermented skate liver oil for a couple of months now, and third-eye activity has definitely increased.

In the 90s, I would see many things with eyes closed and as a layer over the 3d. Over the years, the visions went away. Now they're returning, and I'm very grateful.

Many thanks to those who suggested the product!




Is ratfish oil a hallucinogen?


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