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Is smoking weed a sin??
    #14488355 - 05/21/11 06:38 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

In the latest installment of "is it a sin" threads i give u this

Is smoking weed a sin? and what about doing other drugs, and what about drinking?

I was brought to believe that weed is a Gods gift, every seed to be used and appreciated by man.

Yet these spirit guides of mine tell me not to smoke weed, do other drugs or even drink.

How come? I have no idea. I think it has something to do with the fact weed is illegal and if my family finds out i smoke againthey will not be pleased. It also seems partly because smoking is dangerous for a man with my condition (PTSD, anxity and cardio).

So according to spirit guides smoking weed is no no... but wait , there is more: it also coming to where reading or veiwing weed photos is not good iether. I bought a very good book about weed a month ago, i only got to read 1 chapter after which spirits got pissed off... so i had to hide the book and promised them not to touch it :sad:

And the fact that my so called spiritually graduated mates smoke. And even my best buddy "same gender soul mate" smokes and grows, it is OK to them?

So, is smoking weed a sin and it is better to be sober? :alf:


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desant]
    #14488361 - 05/21/11 06:40 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

too much of anything is a sin


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: Acintya]
    #14488363 - 05/21/11 06:41 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

i havent had a good smoke in 2 - 3 years :shrug:


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desant]
    #14488366 - 05/21/11 06:42 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

what are you worried about then?

nothing you can ever do can contradict your infinite nature
only some things can block your recognition of that nature



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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: Acintya]
    #14488374 - 05/21/11 06:46 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

its all to do with my spiritual goals man... its like i need to pass a lesson on this earth


i like to refer to my self as "power user" but these rules spirits make me follow are grinding me down


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desant]
    #14488397 - 05/21/11 07:00 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Almost forgot: i bought a expensive bottle of scotch a week ago cos i got some extra money some bonus, according to guides that is not OK with them also, even tho i use it in tiny ammounts 1 - 2 times a week


Edited by desant (05/21/11 07:09 AM)


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desant]
    #14488417 - 05/21/11 07:16 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

The voices in your head are wrong. Weed is awesome. Alcohol in moderation isn't bad either. If it was Jesus wouldn't have turned water into wine.


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: LadyLittleZeppelin]
    #14488421 - 05/21/11 07:17 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

didnt he turn wine into blood?


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desant]
    #14488425 - 05/21/11 07:20 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Nope, sure didn't.


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: LadyLittleZeppelin]
    #14488437 - 05/21/11 07:27 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

LadyLittleZeppelin said:
Weed is awesome.




Thats what im saying!

I LOVE weed, its my fav entheogen. So much potential so versatile, if it was not for weed i dont know where id be now, i certainly wouldn't be spiritually educated as i am now, cos smoking weed pushed me to explore and do metaphysical things...

I cant smoke weed according to the guides, yet spiritually closed friends of mine all toke! :dudewtf:


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desant]
    #14488551 - 05/21/11 08:37 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desant]
    #14488942 - 05/21/11 11:51 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

it doesn't matter what you did to get to a certain state of mind, the state of mind itself it what matters most.

if you are god when you smoke weed, then smoke weed and learn from it.

if you are god when you're on heroin, do heroin and learn from it.

everything in moderation....

but sin is all in the eye of the beholder.


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desert father]
    #14489188 - 05/21/11 01:05 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I would never be so arrogant to call myself God on any substance.


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desert father]
    #14489211 - 05/21/11 01:12 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

desert father said:
if you are god when you're on heroin, do heroin and learn from it.




:superiority:


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desert father]
    #14489231 - 05/21/11 01:18 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

desert father said:
it doesn't matter what you did to get to a certain state of mind, the state of mind itself it what matters most.

if you are god when you smoke weed, then smoke weed and learn from it.

if you are god when you're on heroin, do heroin and learn from it.

everything in moderation....

but sin is all in the eye of the beholder.




this.

everything in moderation including moderation.

i think i remember seeing that the bible says its a sin to cut youre beard if youre a man?  so dont believe the bible word for word, theres a lot of writing that doesnt make any sense.


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desant]
    #14489241 - 05/21/11 01:20 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Wine and weed probably just hinder your spiritual development. This doesn't make them sins. What your friends do is irrelevant.

I hope you don't think you have to obey your spirit guides. I found it to be optional advice. I also was encouraged to give up drugs, which I have except an occasional mushroom trip.


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: 1983]
    #14489291 - 05/21/11 01:36 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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1983 said:
Wine and weed probably just hinder your spiritual development.



I think this depends on how dependent of them you become. I think it's safe for recreational use just as going to the beach on vacation every so often is safe.


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desant] * 1
    #14489537 - 05/21/11 03:10 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Lung tissue is designed for air. It should remain pink in appearance, without brown, black or white coloring (coatings of potentially carcinogenic hydrocarbons or cancerous growth). There should not be holes in the tissue, as in an emphysemic condition. Likewise, neural tissue - Purkinje and pyramidal cells of the neocortex should remain crystal clear, not be tainted an amber color to ordinary light microscopic microtome samples from fat soluble substances such as those found in the resinous accumulation of cannabis products.

Intoxication had two meanings. One mean inebriation, the other means poisoning. It is usually a matter of degree between the first and second meaning. But whereas something like alcohol intoxication immediately manifests an overdose poisoning, cannabis use is gradual. I haven't used cannabis since the late 1970s, except for a 'field test' every 3-5 years when someone really wants me to taste something. I attend parties and concerts and do not imbibe. Been there, done that. It is helpful for anxiety, but I have constitutional anxiety (as a Sheldonian Cerebrotonic Meso-ectomorph), and if I choose to control it myself. I have never like anxiolytic drugs (benzodiazepines) either, and just as well. After years, their use results in tardive dyskinesia which is irreversible.

My own experience with cannabis began at age 15, and diminished my motivation for academics while yet in high school (not to mention exacerbating my constitutional introversion as well). By my 3rd college semester I dropped out to get my act together. I continued to use, but as a philosophy major, not as a pre-med major. I stopped while working on my doctorate, and I never went back. Some of my peers continued to smoke for the 40 years that I didn't, and I see apathy as manifested in their appearance, or in their social life or in their failure to complete actions for career advancement (not getting licensed, for example, and remaining in entry level positions until retirement age). I am in late middle age and I am not into courting a diminution of my brain's processing speed. I prefer a high speed cable to a low speed dial-up in my computer as well. So, I take 'smart drugs' like Piracetam & Choline, Acetyl L-Carnitine, Pramiracetam, to stay sharp, and I use Passion Flower for anxiety/depression, as needed. Bottom line is that the floaty pleasure of being stoned is not conducive to thinking, reading comprehension, meditating, or increasing my compassion. Neither does it improve relations with my Lady.  It is regressive in its effect on my consciousness, causes some disorientation, forgetfulness, and makes me a hypocrite to the kids for whom I'm an addictions counselor, so I just don't use it. I believe that I am better off for it because more than anything else in my life, it was nothing more than another version of "an opiate for the people." But no, cannabis use isn't a sin unless all psychoactives are considered in the light of the New Testament to be pharmakeia, in the Greek, which is sorcery. Sorcery always utilized plant based drugs. Cannabis is not a food from a biblical perspective. For me, it is another attachment which means addiction which means the opposite of freedom. But freedom is interpreted differently by different folks. In George Orwell's 1984, "Freedom is Slavery." You decide.


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: desant]
    #14489538 - 05/21/11 03:10 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

WTF IS A SIN

I don't think I got a response from you last time OP


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Re: Is smoking weed a sin?? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14489545 - 05/21/11 03:12 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

What happened in your life 2-4 years ago that is significant? Seems like it changed a lot of your habits but not necessarily your consciousness for the better.


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