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 Re: The Thumbprint [Re: OctopusDr]  1
#1439005 - 04/08/03 10:08 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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How many doses would the average thumbprint have?
Thumbprints are not weighed out. By todays dosage sizes the amount would be in the hundreds or higher. It's more like how many sheets would a thumbprint be not doses. 
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Re: The Thumbprint [Re: Drummer]
#1439433 - 04/08/03 12:17 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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very well put, Drummer.
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Re: The Thumbprint [Re: Learyfan]
#1482861 - 04/22/03 02:03 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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To bad wars are not fought with those instead of real guns.
Imagine if we could of just soaked Iraq in LSD and had are troops roll in in tye dyed camaflouge blaring some Jerry Garcia on loud speakers.
The only death would be ego death. Then make Saddam(sp?) and bush sit down together and smoke some DMT
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chinacat that sounds like a plan
you know what, someone already sortve did that idea for a flash cartoon
its called the E-Vengers
http://newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=89043
btw listening to chinacat right now hehe x;
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Re: The "THUMBPRINT" [Re: Learyfan]
#1487193 - 04/23/03 05:40 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Man, thumbprints sound like a truly incredible experience. You guys are so lucky to have had the oppurtunity to experienced something so amazing. This was a cool post. I'm sure all the acid heads here have been wanting to hear more about thumbprint experiences. At least i have
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I am pretty sure that chincacat said somewhere there is a massive different between eating an enourmous amount of paper hits and being thumbprinted.
I'm not trying to say you're wrong, but if anyone here can provide accurate information on extremly high doses of lsd, i think it would be chinacat.
hrm.
have you ever been thumbprinted or anything similar?
my ex girlfriend once told me that she would reach a saturation point on high dose lsd trips. she said she got to a point that would only make the trip longer, and not any more intense...
interesting...
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I think you miss the point. Have you ever been in a near fatal accident? Sliced yourself open real good with a razor? Been Skydiving? Do you remember the 1st time you had sex? Any and all of these events leave a lasting impression in your brain. Moments of profound realization, paradigm shifts, or intense pleasure/pain and/or fear remain with you for life. A thumbprint very much causes your brain to experience all the above in the space of a few hours. No, you may not be tripping balls permanently but your entire outlook has been changed permanently. You will never be the same. As to the limit to the effects a higher doasge will give all i can say is that a thumbprint would be WAAAAAAY over 500ug. I am curious about Shulgin's definition of augmentation. Is this supplementing an already ingested dose or administering an "augemented" dose to a baseline individual? Scietific LSD research HAS to be fun!
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There is a massive difference between 500mcg and a thumbprint.
There not even comparable trips. As for saturation effect this is from medical research in the 50's comparing doses of lsd. There may not be a notacable difference between 1000 and 2000 mcg. There is a huge difference between 1000mcg. and 40 or 50 mg. Of course the reseachers never ventured into this dosage range. As for Jonathon Ott and Ram Dass I would venture to say neither has had a thumbprint. The quote you printed of Ram Dass is dealing with tolerance anyway not saturation levels.Taking 2400mcg of acid a day for weeks would be alot different than taking 40,000mcg one time. I know close to a hundred people that have had thumbprints and each one would laugh there ass of if someone told them there was no difference between 500mcg. and 50,000mcg.
As for futher clarification try eating 500mcg. and a couple weeks later stick your finger in some LSD crystal and lick it. Then you can see just how similar experiances they are. 
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I know close to a hundred people that have had thumbprints and each one would laugh there ass of if someone told them there was no difference between 500mcg. and 50,000mcg.
For how many of these were printing a bad experience? For how many was it life-changing, good or bad? Statistics, please!
btw, im jealous at you for being an old skool hippie. lucky bastard!
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Wow. Those are incredible stories chinacat. Thanks for sharing
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Re: The Thumbprint [Re: yelimS] 1
#1527247 - 05/07/03 09:47 AM (9 years, 26 days ago) |
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For how many of these were printing a bad experience? For how many was it life-changing, good or bad? Statistics, please!
One bad experiance thats told above, but in the end he found it to be the most important experiance of his life so it was good afterall. I have heard of other unpleasent ones, but none to serious. As for life changing, everyone of them.
Once that amount of LSD is injested you are never the same,ever!!!
Most prints turn out very well. It's not like there made availble to anybody.
Usually the person is deemed ready by those who can tell.They are taken care of before and after the print by the family, this may take up to a week before your functioning again. Sometimes skeptics are printed, but there reactions are usually very, very shattering. It's hard when your whole belief system explodes and the truth is revealed. You basically have to start from scratch. All those years you thought you knew the truth and God, then in a matter of minutes you find you didn't know shit, then you die. . This is all related to first prints. Repeated prints later are less traumatic and not nearlly as shattering.
Most folks I know that have done prints rarely do LSD anymore. There's really know need to except for nostalgia. I do know one brother( who gave me my first print) who is in his mid sixties and still eats crystal.
I don't know if I ever will again. I have courted the idea , and mabye will again someday.
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hook a brotha up with a print one day
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I don?t know if we?ve covered this already, but it appears that LSD is a very unpredictable drug at relatively(compared to a print) low doses, but fairly predictable at thumbprint doses.
Chinacat, how do you believe your thumbprint experience has changed your life? You said you?re never the same.
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Re: The Thumbprint [Re: Learyfan]
#1527732 - 05/07/03 12:39 PM (9 years, 25 days ago) |
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thanks for sharing guys ,
You should get your tape recorders and start the 'book project' this summer
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