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KingEmblem
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The public and mescaline
#14359766 - 04/27/11 06:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would like to preface this with:
What is up with people always making ridiculous ass claims about mescaline, and especially peyote? People in general make ridiculous claims about psychedelics but people seem to get less and less informed as it goes from "classic" psychs to newer chemicals. Mescaline seems to be stuck in some weird limbo -- between "public" and propaganda-based knowledge on shrooms and LSD, and complete mystery around RCs -- to where people just spout random weird rumors and movie lines they've heard like it's fact about poor mescalito.
Even professionals. My psychology professor, while not a pro specifically in drugs, in class went over psychedelics. She put mescaline and peyote separately, believing mescaline to be synthetic or something and peyote the cactus, and that people smoke peyote. She said this completely seriously. I've seen so many people mention the smoking peyote thing. Even "hardcore" drug people.
What is it about mescaline/peyote? Is it just me who has noticed extra stupidity/ignorance/WTFery surrounding it?
In conclusion:
People.
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Hiei
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: KingEmblem]
#14359783 - 04/27/11 07:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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people need to learn about the importance of dosages also. They seem to associate drugs with potency without keeping dosage aka quantity in consideration.
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mellowparty
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: Hiei]
#14359864 - 04/27/11 07:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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People suck, society retarded, humanity fail, dr00gz r gewd, etc etc
Honestly 1 out of 9 threads is related to bitching about people and their ignorance. I agree though, people=
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ifoundwaldo
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: KingEmblem]
#14359881 - 04/27/11 07:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
KingEmblem said: She put mescaline and peyote separately, believing mescaline to be synthetic or something and peyote the cactus, and that people smoke peyote.
Well...
Mescaline and peyote are different. Mescaline could be synthetic. Peyote is a cactus. And Native Americans (as well as others) do smoke peyote.
Do you have a better example?
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mellowparty
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14359890 - 04/27/11 07:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Vector
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: mellowparty]
#14359931 - 04/27/11 08:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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does the "smoking peyote" rumor come from that millenia-old pipe they found in a cave? I believe it had peyote buttons carved into it, but i thought that it was for smoking herbs....i could be way off here though; too lazy to go find an article about this pipe
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fatppl12
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: mellowparty]
#14359988 - 04/27/11 08:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
mellowparty said: People suck, society retarded, humanity fail, dr00gz r gewd, etc etc
Honestly 1 out of 9 threads is related to bitching about people and their ignorance. I agree though, people=
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mellowparty
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: fatppl12]
#14360043 - 04/27/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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what about my sig?
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millzy
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: mellowparty]
#14360066 - 04/27/11 08:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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mescaline is in peyote, but it's not its only psychoactive ingredient. mescaline can be synthesized but is most commonly extracted from cacti. i don't know about any of this stuff with peyote being smoked.
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: mellowparty]
#14360091 - 04/27/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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mellowparty said: what about my sig?
The AVP thing. Is has mad laughs contains inside it meng.
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sunset_mission
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: millzy]
#14360093 - 04/27/11 08:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is because people are s and are not imbued with the sacred knowledge of how truly works. Only the know this.
Edited by sunset_mission (04/27/11 08:52 AM)
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mattritt
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mellowparty
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: fatppl12]
#14360237 - 04/27/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
fatppl12 said:
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mellowparty said: what about my sig?
The AVP thing. Is has mad laughs contains inside it meng.
oh that
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mongo lloyd
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: mellowparty]
#14360391 - 04/27/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lots of people are about a lot of things. But drugs especially. The worst though, by far, is when drug users say random bullshit about drugs. On a youtube video, someone commented that salvia was perfectly safe because it releases DMT in your brain and makes you have a waking dream People who believe that shouldn't get the honor to take drugs.
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Remix
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: mongo lloyd]
#14360517 - 04/27/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If only they were all lvl 80 shamans like us. Then they could see into the 4th dimension and communicate with all molecules, instantly discovering everything about them upon ingestion.
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: Remix]
#14360554 - 04/27/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Every time I hear one of my friends say that normal people are sheep I want to facepalm so hard.
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Remix
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: plustax]
#14360655 - 04/27/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah. I've never really found the whole mentality of "look at how dumb all these sheeple are" to be very fulfilling. In the end it's just another culture of "us vs them" bullshit.
In my experience, actually, most people are quite intelligent when you engage them with sincerity and don't spend the whole conversation trying to intimidate them by flexing your intellectual muscles and using condescending tones. A lot of people are just scared to share their real, deep thoughts because everytime they try/start to transcend ideology or evolve past their immediate culture they are, in many different ways, punished, ostracized or just flat-out dismissed as crazy/stupid individuals.
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ifoundwaldo
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: Remix]
#14360697 - 04/27/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Idk... I'd argue that most people are retards.
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Remix
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14360823 - 04/27/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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IME it really depends on what you talk to them about and/or how you go about doing it.
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tokinman21
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Re: The public and mescaline [Re: Remix]
#14360963 - 04/27/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've noticed this too, I really don't get it. And like you said, it's even prevalent in the psychedelic community. I asked a buddy if he would try a moderate dose of peyote with me and he was like "HELL NO. That's some crazy shit, I'd never fuck with that." I was like "Dude, you dropped a tenstrip last weekend..."
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