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 MarkostheGnostic
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 Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool?  [Re: The Chronic]
#14145305 - 03/18/11 07:15 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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The Chronic said:
I even heard Ken Wilber talking smack about Tolle recently, basically saying how a real spiritual teacher isn't gonna be on Oprah, it's funny how spiritual teachers teach to not judge anyone then they go ahead & judge other spiritual teachers. Shit, did i just do it aswell!?
I sometimes think that the only people who can still annoy an enlightened master is another enlightened master. Makes sense.
 That's rich! My Lady thinks (and I concur) that Wilber is just envious because Tolle is so much more widely read by all kinds of people. I think Wilber has a lot to offer intellectually, but his ego is as big as Montana, and while I see him as being intellectually enlightened, I do not see him as being spiritually enlightened. Moreover, that groovy LED EEG machine in his video, where he claims to go into some modified Nirvikalpa samadhi - voluntarily - is less than believable. Humility is a hallmark of spiritual maturity, not showmanship or envy.
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#14145398 - 03/18/11 07:30 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Dude I have watched maybe 5 videos from him...I get nothing.
I don't get much from Tolle either...but he knows what to say and how to say it.
Honestly the only guy I've spent hours listening to is McKenna. He has a calm humility about him to match any of these other guys.
I'd like to see his brain on an EEG machine. 
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: circastes]
#14145409 - 03/18/11 07:32 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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circastes said:
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Cups said:
Just how many people you got in there circastes? 
It's an army by now.
Sometimes it takes over and I lash out at trees.
I end up with shifted knuckles and green shit all over my face, spitting out a leaf just as Community Mental Health rolls by and I have to call in alien air support.
Fucking trees...
I almost believe every bit of that. You crazy bastard. 
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: circastes]
#14146109 - 03/18/11 09:37 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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circastes said:
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Cups said:
Just how many people you got in there circastes?
It's an army by now.
Sometimes it takes over and I lash out at trees.
I end up with shifted knuckles and green shit all over my face, spitting out a leaf just as Community Mental Health rolls by and I have to call in alien air support.
Fucking trees...
They almost get to you too bro? Argh lol.
Army..... 
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To control your own, you gotta burn your strings
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: lolwut]
#14146891 - 03/19/11 01:08 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: Cups]
#14148266 - 03/19/11 11:42 AM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Tolle seem to be talking about the Rigpa, as the description runs in Vajrayana Buddhism. It is the substratum of existence, the Void whence all form originates. Of course, calling it 'Being' works for me, as I am re-organizing all the Eastern concepts into Western concepts for a more global, twin hemispheric mentality, both in the sense of world, and brain. Besides, of all the Christian theologians I have ever read, Paul Tillich's book The Eternal Now has perhaps ben the best modern rendering of Christian theology since Meister Eckart, and Tillich was the guy who popularized the expression, "the Ground of Being."
Tolle does bring me to the Present when reading The Power of Now, and Wilber does extend the field of human development beyond the usual cut off at normal ego development into old age. He extends the field into transpersonal domains, employing Yogic and Buddhistic categories. I greatly appreciate this because human development was my major (minoring in clinical psychology) for the Ph.D. degree. I ordinarily use the normal and abnormal psych on my job, but the transpersonal stuff for my own development, which includes Hindu and Buddhist Yogas.
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#14148359 - 03/19/11 12:17 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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ZenXi6 said:
Eckhart's eyes are more symmetrical than that other guy. The other guy's right eye is definitely out of balance. A lazy eye perhaps? :lazy:
Eckhart seems more genuinely happy in that picture than the other guy too. 
Either way, I don't like attempting to decipher who a person is, or how they feel, other than myself. And it's not even really necessary for me to know who I am, because I am simply me, and I feel how I feel right now, and right now I
A friend once told me: "Usually people who use the word tool are tools..." -- LOL he said that to me, cuz I was saying how much of a tool somebody was. And he was right. I was a tool, but I was young then and a drunken naive SOB 
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MarkostheGnostic said:Humility is a hallmark of spiritual maturity, not showmanship or envy.
This multiplied by infinity.
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What honor can there be without humility?
What heights can be reached without being low?
The pieces of a chariot are useless
unless they work in accordance with the whole
A man's life brings nothing
unless he lives in accordance with the whole universe
Playing one's part
in accordance with the universe
is true humility
So whether you're a gem in the royal court
or a stone on the common path
If you accept your part with humility
the glory of the universe will be yours
Lao Tzu
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Re: Is it just me, or is Eckhart Tolle kinda a tool? [Re: I AM SWIM] 1
#14148399 - 03/19/11 12:27 PM (1 year, 2 months ago) |
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Lao Tzu was a tool. 
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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan   fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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