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 teknix
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 We are angry with our leaders. 
#14016310 - 02/23/11 07:47 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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This is the theme spreading like wild fire all across the world. We are all comming to realize that it is up to us to make the change. We don't want to fight, we don't want wars. We only want freedom. Humanity is crying out against the forces that assume to tell us how it is.
It is for us to decide how it is, and how it will be.
No longer will humanity stand idly by and hope for better days. Now is the time for action, a revolution, to unite all of humanity.
As these lines of division begin to blur, and merge into a larger picture, falling into place from its utter dissemination. It will be up to everyone of us to make the changes necessary to become a part of the voice of all humanity.
The voice of humanity is speaking.
Language was once a formidable barrier, this is not so today. We have at our fingertips the ability to comprehend all that is said by all people. Love, peace, freedom, harmony. This is the global consensus. This is what the majority of humanity wants.
The voice of humanity will not be defied by a few men.
We need to start from scratch, as the foundation that exists is built upon corruption, division, hate and lies.
We need to begin with the fuel that powers this corruption, which in itself is corrupt.
Oil.
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: teknix]
#14016375 - 02/23/11 07:57 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Beautiful, but will it really ever happen? Seems more like a dream to me, however optimistic I am. We've been bred into complacency; to be happy with our mini-vans and air-conditioning and horrible foods and capitalist government.
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teknix
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: Zelse]
#14016398 - 02/23/11 08:00 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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It is happening! It's up to you to partake the best you can 
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: teknix]
#14016424 - 02/23/11 08:03 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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2 bad this revolution is going to make our lives hellish unless we can manage 2 find hippie communes
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Icelander
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: teknix]
#14016712 - 02/23/11 08:48 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
teknix said:
This is the theme spreading like wild fire all across the world. We are all comming to realize that it is up to us to make the change. We don't want to fight, we don't want wars. We only want freedom. Humanity is crying out against the forces that assume to tell us how it is.
It is for us to decide how it is, and how it will be.
No longer will humanity stand idly by and hope for better days. Now is the time for action, a revolution, to unite all of humanity.
As these lines of division begin to blur, and merge into a larger picture, falling into place from its utter dissemination. It will be up to everyone of us to make the changes necessary to become a part of the voice of all humanity.
The voice of humanity is speaking.
Language was once a formidable barrier, this is not so today. We have at our fingertips the ability to comprehend all that is said by all people. Love, peace, freedom, harmony. This is the global consensus. This is what the majority of humanity wants.
The voice of humanity will not be defied by a few men.
We need to start from scratch, as the foundation that exists is built upon corruption, division, hate and lies.
We need to begin with the fuel that powers this corruption, which in itself is corrupt.
Oil.
Don't count on it. This is a tiny blip on the screen of nothing really changing. Those who replace the corrupt leaders of today will be the corrupt leaders of tomorrow. Just watch and see. This has all happened many times.
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― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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teknix
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: Icelander]
#14016779 - 02/23/11 08:58 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, they will be corrupt if the pedestal on which they stand remains the same.
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Icelander
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: teknix]
#14016896 - 02/23/11 09:21 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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It always has and there is no indication of any change. Don't believe for a moment that because you and your friends all think the same that any kind of majority do. It's always been this way and I myself was sure that major world change was coming out of the 60s and 70s which imo was a much larger movement than is happening now. Each generation thinks that the energy of their youth will bring down the powers that be but it has never really been. Human nature will win the day because we have not altered emotionally from our early history. There have always been the "awakened" few that might actually make a better (imo) world were they in charge but they never will have the numbers to make it so. This, unfortunately is my conclusion after an fairly in depth study of history and human psychology.  And I'll gladly bet my life savings on it.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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teknix
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: Icelander]
#14016934 - 02/23/11 09:27 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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If we keep shaking that very foundation, it will eventually give.
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: teknix]
#14016964 - 02/23/11 09:31 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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I know looking at history it's all going to be the same, but what's to say our global consciousness, our general state of mind, isn't evolving or at least radically different from that in most of history?
I mean take for example all the activism and even wars for freedom - is it a sign we can't cohese, or is it a sign that freedom and life itself, deep down, is incredibly lusted for by our inner nature?
Life and the freedom it entails might be the only thing worth dying for.
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: teknix]
#14017001 - 02/23/11 09:36 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
teknix said:
If we keep shaking that very foundation, it will eventually give.
There is no evidence to support that claim. In fact the opposite.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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p4kSouL
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: Icelander]
#14017011 - 02/23/11 09:38 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Im just waiting for the self efficient power generators to come out they already exist:
http://swallowcommand.com/
That will be the first of its kind.
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: circastes]
#14017016 - 02/23/11 09:38 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Go for it Teknix!
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Icelander
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: circastes]
#14017045 - 02/23/11 09:45 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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but what's to say our global consciousness, our general state of mind, isn't evolving or at least radically different from that in most of history?
I think it's our psychology that is saying things won't be different. Psychologically humanity is in a mess and maybe a bigger mess than normal because of the overcrowding on out little planet. There is little indication of real change. Do you really believe there is going to be significant change in the middle east. The powers that be are too invested to ever let that happen. I'm as sure of that as I am sure that I am typing this. Humanity will have to develop and change psychologically and there is no evidence of that. And frankly the high ideals of youth are never realized. Most everyone here at the shroomery will become a fairly normal middle aged citizen in just a few short years and most will put their drug use behind them as youthful folly and concentrate on making a buck, having a family and getting ahead.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14017049 - 02/23/11 09:45 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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America does have corruption, however the theme of freedom on which is America's bedrock, is spreading. That is what we need to focus on. We need to be that for the world. We need to be that rock.
What are we if not that?
My post was directed towards the World, not just America.
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: teknix]
#14017067 - 02/23/11 09:49 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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America was built on the blood and genocide of the indigenous people that were already living here. We killed them and took the land. We are now engaging in wars in other areas of the world to secure resources for our vast consumption and need for material wealth.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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teknix
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: Icelander]
#14017160 - 02/23/11 10:05 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Your narrow focus is why you don't see America's role with the World.
I am not to condone misdeeds of the past, however, am I to blame for them? Are you?
It has been done.
The future is the focus.
Your narrow focus on America's History has little to do with the Future of the World.
Everyone makes mistakes, we are human.
Are all Germans responsible for the Holocaust?
Edited by teknix (02/23/11 10:11 PM)
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: Icelander]
#14017720 - 02/23/11 11:57 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
but what's to say our global consciousness, our general state of mind, isn't evolving or at least radically different from that in most of history?
I think it's our psychology that is saying things won't be different. Psychologically humanity is in a mess and maybe a bigger mess than normal because of the overcrowding on out little planet. There is little indication of real change. Do you really believe there is going to be significant change in the middle east. The powers that be are too invested to ever let that happen. I'm as sure of that as I am sure that I am typing this. Humanity will have to develop and change psychologically and there is no evidence of that. And frankly the high ideals of youth are never realized. Most everyone here at the shroomery will become a fairly normal middle aged citizen in just a few short years and most will put their drug use behind them as youthful folly and concentrate on making a buck, having a family and getting ahead.
Hrm... well I guess it's a matter of faith or hope at the moment. Obviously I think there IS such thing as good, or a kind of good background story to all this that sets it all right. Like, for example, that this is just a drama initiated by God's mind. I still don't think that's any more looney than thinking there is or isn't a patriarch in the sky, called by the same name. I at least have subjective evidence rather than brainwashing to support it.
That last thought... that we're all going to give this up... hehe, well, a guy I recently made friends with is in his thirties or forties, I can't remember, but he's about to invite me over for a mescaline trip (which I'm getting psyched about)!
I don't think I'll ever give it up. In fact, I don't think I can... consciousness is IT, there is nothing else to explore. Of course, I need to make a buck to get by, but guess where? Psychology...
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Find me in the backyard, sailing my kettle. Playing poker with insects, wearing a cup of tea. A hat of brimstone, yellow-crimson, looking like a giant flea. Forever my friend: so my energy this day I lend, I practice faking it to pretend, and become the actor in the end. My folly hangs on the trees like leaves and drips in the falling breeze, the tock of a minute here shakes me to my knees.
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: teknix]
#14018937 - 02/24/11 08:23 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
teknix said:
Your narrow focus is why you don't see America's role with the World.
I am not to condone misdeeds of the past, however, am I to blame for them? Are you?
It has been done.
The future is the focus.
Your narrow focus on America's History has little to do with the Future of the World.
Everyone makes mistakes, we are human.
Are all Germans responsible for the Holocaust?
You said bedrock. That is a Myth. I'm guessing I know a lot more about the actual history and current political situation in this country than you do. Our history was not a "mistake". It was deliberate and is still going on deliberately and most Americans back it if not in word than in deed and lifestyle.
Imo it's you with the narrow focus. Actually blinders would be a more apt term.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: Icelander]
#14019088 - 02/24/11 09:04 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said:
It always has and there is no indication of any change. Don't believe for a moment that because you and your friends all think the same that any kind of majority do. It's always been this way and I myself was sure that major world change was coming out of the 60s and 70s which imo was a much larger movement than is happening now. Each generation thinks that the energy of their youth will bring down the powers that be but it has never really been. Human nature will win the day because we have not altered emotionally from our early history. There have always been the "awakened" few that might actually make a better (imo) world were they in charge but they never will have the numbers to make it so. This, unfortunately is my conclusion after an fairly in depth study of history and human psychology. And I'll gladly bet my life savings on it.
Man Ice, it's folks like you that keeps my participation at this lovely corner of cyberspace at a bare minimum and my reading and relaxation while doing so - oh so high  
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Re: We are angry with our leaders. [Re: Icelander]
#14019112 - 02/24/11 09:08 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Icelander said:
America was built on the blood and genocide of the indigenous people that were already living here. We killed them and took the land. We are now engaging in wars in other areas of the world to secure resources for our vast consumption and need for material wealth.
^ You go - Yippity Yup Yup Yup! 
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