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#13893741 - 02/02/11 01:21 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President
February 1, 2011 - Huffington Post
By Gary Johnson, Former governor of New Mexico and possible 2012 Presidential candidate
The Web is humming with stories and discussion from the aftermath of President Obama's response to questions about drug legalization during last Thursday's YouTube forum. While his words this time around are a bit more encouraging than previous signals from the administration, I would strongly suggest that we all, including the president, cut through the platitudes and get to the truth about marijuana prohibition.
If, as the president suggests, it is time for a "serious debate" about legalization, let's get to it, starting with a few questions that beg for truth:
Why, with record federal deficits and states teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, are we spending billions on yet another failed Prohibition that is accomplishing nothing other than making criminals out of millions of otherwise law-abiding citizens and fueling drug cartels that threaten our fundamental national security? Is it not time to try something different?
Despite lip-service, about the need for treatment, harm-reduction and other strategies to address drug use as a health issue, why do the federal government's actual policies and budget still treat the situation as almost entirely a law enforcement problem? Let's end the unworkable marijuana prohibition and put our money where our mouth is. Let's solve the problems like border crime. We can do it with pot legalization.
We need to deal with some simple truths. How do we reconcile the fact, that in a supposedly free society, it is legal for a responsible adult to purchase and consume alcohol, while purchasing and consuming marijuana is a crime? I, along with millions of other Americans, are still waiting for a credible answer to that one.
Mr. President, I would suggest the debate has already begun, thanks for joining in. The Feds have been ignoring this issue for far too long.
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: veggie]
#13894116 - 02/02/11 02:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Obama is just being a politician, setting him self up for a second term. He said legalization is up for the debate which satisfies all the pro drug people, then he said he isn't pro drug himself (who knows if that's true or not), which satisfies all the anti drug people.
nevertheless, it's a step in the right direction.
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SirNoseDvoidoFungi
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: gref]
#13894202 - 02/02/11 02:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds like 2008.
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drjustice
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: SirNoseDvoidoFungi] 2
#13894657 - 02/02/11 04:26 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fuck Obama, change my ass, you admitted that you smoked weed and did blow, so why don't you go convict yourself and actually serve time for your crimes? Fuck him, it was perfectly ok for him to do it and then joke about it but to make it legal for us? That to him is completely unacceptable.
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: drjustice] 1
#13895016 - 02/02/11 05:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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drjustice said:
Fuck Obama, change my ass, you admitted that you smoked weed and did blow, so why don't you go convict yourself and actually serve time for your crimes? Fuck him, it was perfectly ok for him to do it and then joke about it but to make it legal for us? That to him is completely unacceptable.
maybe he does want to legalize drugs, but he can't just come out and blantently say that. the majority of Americans are still brainwashed about drugs, and he wants a second term.
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Naz
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: gref] 1
#13895062 - 02/02/11 05:51 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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gref said:
maybe he does want to legalize drugs, but he can't just come out and blantently say that. the majority of Americans are still brainwashed about drugs, and he wants a second term.
getting a second chance to do your job by not doing your job is illogical
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Harri
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: Naz]
#13895113 - 02/02/11 06:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everyone who is bitchin shut the fuck up, seriously you guys dont ever shut the fuck up same exact complaint everytime you post, things are looking alot better then they were a few years ago seriously shut the fuck up.
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shr
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: Harri] 1
#13895169 - 02/02/11 06:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Harri said:
Everyone who is bitchin shut the fuck up, seriously you guys dont ever shut the fuck up same exact complaint everytime you post, things are looking alot better then they were a few years ago seriously shut the fuck up.
so we shouldn't complain when in reality, barely any shit has changed? complaining is what gets the word around. don't be ignorant. the more frustrated people are with this the more likely change will occur
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four20west
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: shr]
#13895192 - 02/02/11 06:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I made the mistake of voting for Obama and now im paying the price. i hope that non of you fall for his stories and lies this time around. its time we get the change he promised us. I'm not voting for Obama again and i hope you all do the same.....
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: shr]
#13895196 - 02/02/11 06:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah we are just as sick of sayen it as you are hearen it!
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Harri
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: shr]
#13895290 - 02/02/11 06:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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shr said:
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Harri said:
Everyone who is bitchin shut the fuck up, seriously you guys dont ever shut the fuck up same exact complaint everytime you post, things are looking alot better then they were a few years ago seriously shut the fuck up.
so we shouldn't complain when in reality, barely any shit has changed? complaining is what gets the word around. don't be ignorant. the more frustrated people are with this the more likely change will occur
Really like prop 19 even being on the ballot last year, Obama ending the medical despinsery raids? Change is happening and it's not because kids are bitching on the Internet.
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drjustice
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: Harri]
#13895301 - 02/02/11 06:37 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Harri said:
Everyone who is bitchin shut the fuck up, seriously you guys dont ever shut the fuck up same exact complaint everytime you post, things are looking alot better then they were a few years ago seriously shut the fuck up.
Elaborate on things looking better
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: drjustice] 1
#13895352 - 02/02/11 06:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Really like prop 19 even being on the ballot last year, Obama ending the medical despinsery raids? Change is happening and it's not because kids are bitching on the Internet.
Obama did not end medical dispensary raids. They still happen.
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Run
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: sk8fast]
#13895545 - 02/02/11 07:13 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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and how much other things did obama change?
really he hasnt changed anything. he just wants to look like he changed shit . but everyone knows
if there was change, youd be able to medicate yourself ( grow opium, pot , whatever ) Drug legalization and end the fucked up monetary system and all the monopolizes in the world
oh btw im glad prop 19 didnt pass it was just a way for a certain few to gain monopolizes in the marijuana buisness and it wouldnt allow patients( of medical marijuana) to use at age 18, and wouldnt allow fellow patients to share pot the list goes on and on
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: Run]
#13896452 - 02/02/11 09:32 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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You guys act like a President has what ever power they want. Seriously, if you listen to some of the smart responses in this thread, there are practical reasons why Obama can't do what ever he wants. Have you guys heard the term "lame duck congress", and have you heard that other individuals (such as republicans) have the power to vote stuff down? There are actually other ppl out there who have power over what happens in the US not just Obama.
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: Smitington]
#13896535 - 02/02/11 09:46 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Run
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: Konyap]
#13896684 - 02/02/11 10:06 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well everyone is under the IMPRESSION that he has all the power. His whole campaign gave the impression he had the power to change everything . But everyone knows he can't do shit and the president after wont do shit just fuck more shit up furthering this fucked up world
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: Run]
#13896720 - 02/02/11 10:11 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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yea plus no one voted during the mid terms so as fucked as he was before hes basically playing handball on a wall of quick dryed republicans.
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: sk8fast]
#13897069 - 02/02/11 11:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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sk8fast said:
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Really like prop 19 even being on the ballot last year, Obama ending the medical despinsery raids? Change is happening and it's not because kids are bitching on the Internet.
Obama did not end medical dispensary raids. They still happen.
Aside for that, people bitching on the internet forced the question of legalizing all drugs onto Obama and got him to say it is a legitimate issue of debate.
Obama speaks progressively but in action he doesn't do much with drug policy his administration is pretentious as fuck. Its the 21st century, he could probably propose decriminalization if he wanted to.
Edited by skatealex2 (02/02/11 11:17 PM)
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Re: Yes, It Is time for Pot Legalization, Mr. President [Re: Harri]
#13904020 - 02/04/11 09:14 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Harri said:
Everyone who is bitchin shut the fuck up, seriously you guys dont ever shut the fuck up same exact complaint everytime you post, things are looking alot better then they were a few years ago seriously shut the fuck up.
 
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