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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: stonesun]
#13833937 - 01/22/11 08:08 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I dont ask ?'s I just sit here, nod, and look pretty...
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: total]
#13835613 - 01/23/11 04:45 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Great looking stuff SS. I sent another letter too FRSE Fingers crossed for a 'lib' print this time. If only i took some bloody prints off the ones i had
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: yummytrips]
#13835634 - 01/23/11 05:01 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Right on Stonesun, if anyone can do this, I'll bet you can. You're a bit ahead of me, I've got some more-or-less colonized RGS, but I reckon I'll give it another week or two. There are some small sclerotia in my jars too. I'll try not to eat them by accident .
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13835653 - 01/23/11 05:14 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Wow I got some on agar and its sloooooooooooow.
I'll throw some on rye when its grown out enough on the plate.
I was going to put it off but at the rate its going I need to get started sooner than later.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13837757 - 01/23/11 03:26 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, it's slow. But if you can fruit them it's more than worthwhile, it's the holy grail, IMHO.
Peace -PS
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13837799 - 01/23/11 03:34 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I feel ya. Just seems kinda pointless to me when I can pick hundreds a day from early august to late october.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Base Icks]
#13837965 - 01/23/11 04:04 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Well yeah, and I've only ever picked wild, and grown out some mycelium from spores - but that was as far as I got, back in the day. 
Peace -PS
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: stonesun]
#13840362 - 01/24/11 12:14 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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stonesun said: Hey guys I've joined in the community if you don't mind. Not much to show yet, as of now the bulk substrate is colonizing.
Welcome aboard!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: total]
#13840376 - 01/24/11 12:18 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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total said: On a side note, i just sourced a wine cooler off craigslist for ~$30

Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment. 
CaptainFuture already accomplished growing them here in a Semilanceata type environment.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13841582 - 01/24/11 10:25 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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nexus1946 said: Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment. 
 Im going to try a couple of things tbh, even a few in a semi environment  Hopefully i can at-least replicate CaptainFuture 's successful grow... I do plan on experimenting with you guys thou! I should have plenty of mycelium
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13841734 - 01/24/11 10:59 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment. 
It is? Without mutations it seems massively unlikely. 
Peace -PS
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13842047 - 01/24/11 12:09 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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total said:
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nexus1946 said: Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment. 
 Im going to try a couple of things tbh, even a few in a semi environment  Hopefully i can at-least replicate CaptainFuture 's successful grow... I do plan on experimenting with you guys thou! I should have plenty of mycelium 
Cant wait to see your results.
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Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment. 
It is? Without mutations it seems massively unlikely. 
Peace -PS
Maybe so but nevertheless.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13842150 - 01/24/11 12:29 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said:
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Remember, the whole point of this thread is to try and get them to fruit in a cube type environment. 
It is? Without mutations it seems massively unlikely. 
Peace -PS

its all in the first post. 
how do you not read the 1st post of a thread your commenting in. 
anyway, thats the long run goal here is to work on indoor fruiting conditions (like cubensis) for libs.
trying to "train" a lib strain for indoor cultivation. 
its deff going to take time and repetitiveness but I think the idea of growin libs like cubes would be F'n sweet.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13843111 - 01/24/11 03:28 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe so but nevertheless. 
My feelings too, though.
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how do you not read the 1st post of a thread your commenting in. 
What, 13shrooms now casting stones on poor PS self? Of course I read the whole thread - this and every other one on LC cult, my all time favorite LBM - but dude this thread has been around for more than a year now... Read read click read read click...
OK, what are you talking about here? There is nothing in the first post of this thread - or the first posts of any of the two threads it refers to - to negate what I've said.
The thread at times seems to be a postulation that through "training" the Ps. semi. can be induced to fruit at higher temps, hmm?
Well no shit people, I've had this exact thing happen to a cold fruiting lignicolous species (Ps. cyanescens) ONCE thanks to some sort of reaction to heat shocking, about 20 years ago. It was accidental.
And I grew the direct descendants of that strain for years on end, until I quit cultivating altogether for 10 years. They grew and fruited on grain under the same conditions as Ps. cubensis, but were easily twice as potent and psychedelic as anybody could ever want. Like their ancestors they always expressed Ps. cyan. phenotypes.
People tend not to believe this, so why should they believe (without proof) that somebody could "train" Ps. semi. to fruit easily at normal room temps (if indeed that is the goal)? Sorry to rain on that parade, but every LC indoor grow involved replicating the wild fruit's favored enviro.
The only proof I can provide is resurrecting that strain from the prints that I have, and I'm still working on that. I've fruited out two strains from the spores to date, but both stalled at about 1/2 inch tall.
Ya want to "train" LCs out of their genetically determined preferences, ya need mutants, is all I'm saying! 
Peace -PS
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13844079 - 01/24/11 06:32 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Loving this thread, I hope hope hope this is achieved!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psilosibling]
#13844151 - 01/24/11 06:43 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Well no shit people, I've had this exact thing happen to a cold fruiting lignicolous species (Ps. cyanescens) ONCE thanks to some sort of reaction to heat shocking, about 20 years ago. It was accidental.
And I grew the direct descendants of that strain for years on end, until I quit cultivating altogether for 10 years. They grew and fruited on grain under the same conditions as Ps. cubensis, but were easily twice as potent and psychedelic as anybody could ever want. Like their ancestors they always expressed Ps. cyan. phenotypes.
People tend not to believe this, so why should they believe (without proof) that somebody could "train" Ps. semi. to fruit easily at normal room temps (if indeed that is the goal)? Sorry to rain on that parade, but every LC indoor grow involved replicating the wild fruit's favored enviro.
so it will work, or should I say, it can be done. 
I dont care how it happens just as long as someone can achieve it and replicate it for others to be able to replicate in turn. 
mutants are IME always more potent so mutant libs would kick ass 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#13845107 - 01/24/11 09:25 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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There's the rub, don'cha know? All I can say is that it happened to me, one time. And obviously if it happened once it can happen again. But the odds could be so small it might not, I don't know.
I'll tell you what I remember about the incident - I had a thermostat get stuck in the fruiting chamber and it ran way too hot. As I recall, since I was fruiting these Ps. cyans in an old fridge in the garage, I could get it cold but I couldn't get it warm enough inside to suit, so I had some sort of heating system rigged up as well inside. It went way too high (I recall taking the temp and finding something like 104F in the substrate ), and when I found out I was totally freaked, cause I thought they were dead, and the cyans took plenty of time to cultivate due to the temps. I pulled the plug on the heater setup and just left them there. A few days or a week later I checked and they were recovering. That was where the mutant variety came from, as best I recall. They were pushed close to the edge of thermal tolerance and something interesting happened as a result.
Anyway, I've been soaking spores from the 15 year old main print I have of these for a couple months now and I'm going to try a set of plates to try again to get back to the mother lode. 
Best of luck with LC mutants!
Peace -PS
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