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fundamentalchair
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: Doc_T]
#11176817 - 10/03/09 07:09 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bump + update log...
Updated Oct 3rd 2009.
Added- Okay, I grew some stones. How do I harvest them? To pick as you grow, get some diggin in and pull them out from the top up. I would suggest a sterile fork/spoon as digging implements.
To harvest a container at a time, putting some chicken wire or similar mesh (holes bigger than grain, smaller than stones) over a frame and shaking should take a lot of work out of diggin for them. Think like searching for fossils or stones with a sifter. (Thanks Doc_T!) --- Got a tek for that substrate? Me? No. I told you earlier, I'm an idiot. Although RogerRabbit has a nice one that can be found @ RR's RGS Preperation.
If you're too lazy to clicky clicky on the linky linky, here is a quick abstract... Fill qt jar w/ 300 ml of RGS. Add 150 ml water/coffee mix (you want 1/2 strength of regualar by directions of coffee. Figure it out). Put on lid (no hole) and shake. wait an hour. shake it again. Replace lid with hole + filter lid. PC/noc/etc like any other grain jar. --- Redacted- Changed '1:1:1 substrate:water:coffee' to '2:1:1 RGS:water:coffee' - If anyone junked some jars with using rye berries or too much water in RGS, sorry about the mistake
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Edited by fundamentalchair (10/03/09 07:33 PM)
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: fundamentalchair]
#11176922 - 10/03/09 07:31 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your link to the RR vid failed. And that's rye grass, but I think he recommends rye grain for stones. It seemed like he was saying that, at least. Ry grain prepped like in the other video.
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fundamentalchair
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: Doc_T]
#11176966 - 10/03/09 07:41 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Your link to the RR vid failed.
Fixed. Its text, btw.
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Ry grain prepped like in the other video.
Yeah, he did mention his preference towards berries (at least from my understanding).
Edit- Added-
For any regular substrate grain (ie. not RGS), prepare as normal.
-------------------- semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit Sclerotia FAQ... If ya ain't got any stones, grow some. Will work for Laetiporus sulphureus culture/spores (or any other Laetiporus actually), me. My Trade list. Ghetto Tek: Auto FAE & Light
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: fundamentalchair]
#11187745 - 10/05/09 03:32 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Great thread.
While some people have had success pulling stones out of jars, and then letting the jars grow more... what I meant by harvest as you go was, harvest one jar at a time as needed. Once I harvest a jar, I consider it done. Nothing wrong w/ trying for more though.
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: Rose]
#11213294 - 10/09/09 04:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Great info can't wait to see more and more of sclerotia forming threads
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: Ozzy_shroomer]
#11214839 - 10/09/09 11:53 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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anybody care to share a harvest and/or fruiting summary with pics?
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fundamentalchair
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: fundamentalchair]
#11685430 - 12/20/09 10:42 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Update: Added Bioassay of P. Atlantis (Thanks Ego Questio!). Removed speculation section.
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: fundamentalchair]
#11725553 - 12/27/09 11:03 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for gathering all the info into this one post . Saves tons of searching time !
I'm about to venture into my first attempt with these and am looking forward to good results thanks to everyone who has done all the ground breaking work before me .
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: ozonerider]
#11725624 - 12/27/09 11:24 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Indeed. I am starting with Tampanensis(sp?) and going to do 2-3 dozen jars for stones and try to fruit a couple tubs and trays for prints. Something I have wanted to do for a long time.
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: daytripper05]
#11736777 - 12/29/09 11:29 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Update:
Added to notes/links
P. Mexicana-A, P. Mexicana-Jalisco & P. Galindoi-ATL#7 Fruiting Pictures: Great pics/guide on fruiting sclerotia strains. This dude is THE MAN. Beer, sushi, and fruiting stones; almost enough for me to consider going gay. (Thanks Stonesun!) Bulk psilocybin/psilocin production via scelortia TEK (PICS): Nice writeup of a start-to-finish sclerotia run. (Thanks OverUnity33!)
Keep em coming guys.
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: fundamentalchair]
#11736786 - 12/29/09 11:30 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
anybody care to share a harvest and/or fruiting summary with pics?
See the added links.
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary [Re: fundamentalchair]
#11840129 - 01/16/10 08:53 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edit: Dry, sclerotia one third as potent as dry P. cubensis. Changed to... Dry, sclerotia two thirds as potent as dry P. cubensis. (Math Fail! - Thanks Doc_T!)
The suggested (grain) mixture is a 2:1:1 RGS:water:coffee (by volume) Changed to... The suggested (grain) mixture is a 4:1:1 RGS:water:coffee (by volume) (Math Fail x2)
"Fill qt jar w/ 300 ml of RGS. Add 150 ml water/coffee mix" has shown the correct ratio, 2:1 of liquid. if measuring coffee and water separate, the correct ratio is 4:1:1
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary (Update 1-16-10) [Re: fundamentalchair] 1
#11883618 - 01/23/10 02:55 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary (Update 1-16-10) [Re: fundamentalchair]
#13825276 - 01/21/11 10:31 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fresh sclerotia storage: I've had good luck storing freshly harvested sclerotia by wrapping them loosely in paper towel with a just drop or two of water to moisten it and keeping that in a sealed container in the fridge. I've kept stones 'fresh' just over two weeks this way, though I'm unable to determine if this may effect potency.
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary (Update 1-16-10) [Re: NizzyJones]
#13828740 - 01/21/11 09:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have also heard of people storing stones in field capacity coir for months at a time. Just make sure they look and smell good before you eat them.
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary (Update 1-16-10) [Re: fundamentalchair]
#14516204 - 05/26/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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-------------------- semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit Sclerotia FAQ... If ya ain't got any stones, grow some. Will work for Laetiporus sulphureus culture/spores (or any other Laetiporus actually), me. My Trade list. Ghetto Tek: Auto FAE & Light
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary (Update 1-16-10) [Re: fundamentalchair]
#14518188 - 05/26/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey dude!
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary (Update 1-16-10) [Re: Doc_T]
#14573393 - 06/07/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey Guys, hope you don't mind if I post in this old thread (well, technically fundamentalchair did that first ). Some questions from a complete nooby. I want to inoculate some glasses now, then leave and not touch them again for 10 weeks, while I'm on summer vacation. I'll then harvest in early September. Doable? Considering what was written so far, it looks like it - what do you think?
1. Do I keep the colonized, sclerotia-growing jars in the darkness? That would make things easier for me. If not, how much light do they need?
2. How susceptible are they to too low/too high temperature? Wherever I keep them, temperature may vary, and I won't be able to react to that.
3. Is it really problematic to use small 1-pint (475ml) jars? I happen to have shitloads of them, because that's where I get my spaghetti sauce from (Yumm, spaghetti!). Anyway - if I stretch my single spore syringe using LC, is there a distinctive disadvantage to many 1-pint jars as compared to fewer large jars?
[edit: I will post this in a separate threat and if I get some answers I'll post em here.. this threat is about knowledge accumulation, after all]
Thanks guys! F
Edited by F64 (06/08/11 01:37 PM)
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary (Update 1-16-10) [Re: F64]
#15779497 - 02/08/12 02:49 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm about a month into this with some galindoii. I've shaken some and left others. The shaken ones are fully colonized, but the unshaken ones have much thicker mycelium. One of the jars i shook has the first visual signs of yellow metabolite formation on the outside. One month more! woohoo! The ease of growth is the most appealing aspect, absolutely. This is my first cultivation! and the idea of magic truffle truffles makes me giggle.
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Re: Sclerotia FAQ - 'Easier than Cubes!!!' summary (Update 1-16-10) [Re: fundamentalchair]
#17606235 - 01/24/13 10:42 PM (11 years, 2 months ago) |
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something you wrote in a post made me wonder,are you interested in fossils?i have recently become curious about nat history of shrooms,and also cannabis.shroom fossils would be rare,i think,but cannabis fossil leaves have been found in the hell creek formation,the absolute top layer before all non-bird dinos disapeared.anything to add? or is this something you have no interest in?
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