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Low dose psychedelics...
    #13784260 - 01/14/11 01:39 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

are fucking useless.

"If you don't think you took too much, you didn't take enough"

Whether it be shrooms, acid, :cactuar:, whatever, it just gives me this super speedy garbage feeling that I just wish I could get rid of for 8+ hours. Damn.


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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: pfxtc] * 1
    #13784266 - 01/14/11 01:41 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

So you cant handle low doses but advocate high-dose only tripping? w.e floats your boat.


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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: The_Ghost]
    #13784269 - 01/14/11 01:42 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

When did I say I cannot handle them?

??!?!?@?#!?

I'm just tired of seeing people advise others to "start off with a low dose" or whatever, it's crap. It's a completely different experience that doesn't even hold a candle to smoking a good joint, if you want to take psychedelics, then take some damn psychedelics.



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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: pfxtc] * 1
    #13784285 - 01/14/11 01:45 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I've had an awful experience on too many mushrooms. The last thing I want to do is to tell someone to take too much and give them a bad impression. Especially their first time. It's better to start small then try as hard as you can to crush your meager little brain.


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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: pfxtc]
    #13784286 - 01/14/11 01:45 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

:werd: ill pretty much just spend the whole time waiting for the peak only to realize that its never get anymore intense, which leaves me stuck feeling tweaky and just kinda off

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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: pfxtc] * 1
    #13784288 - 01/14/11 01:46 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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When did I say I cannot handle them?

??!?!?@?#!?



Well you said they make you feel like crap for 8 hours. Thats not exactly the usual way of being in control. I suppose handling was the wrong word to use. What i meant is it might be a good idea to come to terms with some things during low doses and not simply dive deep to where you cant even function. I don't really care one way or the other.


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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: The_Ghost]
    #13784300 - 01/14/11 01:49 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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pfxtc said:
When did I say I cannot handle them?

??!?!?@?#!?



Well you said they make you feel like crap for 8 hours. Thats not exactly the usual way of being in control.




What would you have me do?

Tell my nervous system to interpret this shit in a different way?

And about starting low, my first trip was 4.5 grams :mushroom2: and 2 hits :lsd: It was absolutely earth shattering, and a perfect introduction. Most intense night of my life to date.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: pfxtc] * 1
    #13784359 - 01/14/11 02:04 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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pfxtc said:
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pfxtc said:
When did I say I cannot handle them?

??!?!?@?#!?



Well you said they make you feel like crap for 8 hours. Thats not exactly the usual way of being in control.




What would you have me do?

Tell my nervous system to interpret this shit in a different way?

And about starting low, my first trip was 4.5 grams :mushroom2: and 2 hits :lsd: It was absolutely earth shattering, and a perfect introduction. Most intense night of my life to date.




:aweface:

Noobs should always dose high. If your gonna take some goddamn psychedelics
might as well...

go batshit insane and end up in the hospital. Ya dig?
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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: DeliciousVinyl]
    #13784367 - 01/14/11 02:07 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

lol

Good response.
In my adventures I have always encouraged people to start as high as they feel comfy based on reading here or on erowid.

I have a question. Does anyone think that intelligence or book learning effects trips? If so how?


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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #13784415 - 01/14/11 02:28 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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lol

Good response.
In my adventures I have always encouraged people to start as high as they feel comfy based on reading here or on erowid.

I have a question. Does anyone think that intelligence or book learning effects trips? If so how?




I agree that it is important to be well read on the psychedelic experience,
i can't say for sure if book learning or intelligence effects the trip
because it's so subjective.
if you tripped in a point in your life when
you were completely ignorant and stupid, and then through education
became well read and intelligent my guess is the possibilities of knowledge
accessible through psychedelics would increase when you have accessed
your mind in more creative challenging ways.
There is definitely a universal knowledge that i feel can be gained
through psychedelics that even a 5th grade dropout can come to
understand with the right direction and guidance.

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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: DeliciousVinyl] * 1
    #13784422 - 01/14/11 02:30 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I have a high degree of education and at least part of my mind is pretty dark, and I can't help but wonder if that is not a good recipe for a horribly bad trip if things went wrong, depending on the drug in question.


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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: pfxtc]
    #13784432 - 01/14/11 02:35 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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pfxtc said:
are fucking useless.

"If you don't think you took too much, you didn't take enough"

Whether it be shrooms, acid, :cactuar:, whatever, it just gives me this super speedy garbage feeling that I just wish I could get rid of for 8+ hours. Damn.



agreed 100%

anything less than 4 or 5g of mushrooms is a waste of time.

if youre going to do it then fuckin do it.

im mentally exhausted when im finished but i guess thats to be expected on such high doses.


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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #13784435 - 01/14/11 02:36 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

My parents would fucking kill me if they knew, but I've let my brother try dmt. He got into smoking weed on his own though. He has even said that since he has been hanging around me and using drugs responsibly he feels much more intelligent. It's like it makes learning interesting for him. Which it does for me, so I'd imagine it's no different for him. I've always been one to delve into whatever I could though and learn as much as I could about a particular topic.


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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: Larrythescaryrex] * 1
    #13784436 - 01/14/11 02:36 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I have a high degree of education and at least part of my mind is pretty dark, and I can't help but wonder if that is not a good recipe for a horribly bad trip if things went wrong, depending on the drug in question.




hmmmm,
people of higher intelligence may be more likely to get caught in thought loops.
over analyze the experience to the point of it being unbearable
people who have serious existential thought may feel dark and lost.
Do you trip often or at all?

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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: DeliciousVinyl]
    #13784442 - 01/14/11 02:40 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Never have.
I've experimented with mycology and watched other people eat the results several times in the past though, as well as watching people do other things. But I've always felt something hold me back from participating.


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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: destructo_low]
    #13784453 - 01/14/11 02:43 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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My parents would fucking kill me if they knew, but I've let my brother try dmt. He got into smoking weed on his own though. He has even said that since he has been hanging around me and using drugs responsibly he feels much more intelligent. It's like it makes learning interesting for him. Which it does for me, so I'd imagine it's no different for him. I've always been one to delve into whatever I could though and learn as much as I could about a particular topic.




how old is he?

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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: Larrythescaryrex] * 1
    #13784460 - 01/14/11 02:45 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

lol reminds me of how mckenna described.. the only evil in psychedelics is when not enough is taken


i dont really ascribe to this i think low-dose trips can be very important and being able to play with the effects without being completely blown away by/overpowerd by -forfeiting your complete control over to the experience

i think its good to be able too maneuver around certain aspects of a trip and subtle changes in thought patterns to take advantage of your own psyche through bringing back slightly altered perspectives of thangs that might be forgot in an intense experience


i went to catchollic school my whole life and started experimenting w/ wayyypsyches towards the end. i've had my fair share of strange/difficult times/overanalysis taking over but none couldnt be overcome w/ simple remaining as self, and realization that this is all part of the show


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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #13784470 - 01/14/11 02:50 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Never have.
I've experimented with mycology and watched other people eat the results several times in the past though, as well as watching people do other things. But I've always felt something hold me back from participating.



interesting, i usually have this fear when i take shrooms for instance
an anxiety because once you chew em up, that's it you're along for the ride.
but depending on the dosage it can kick your ass or be totally awesome.
i ate some homegrown on sunday night that i've been waiting and anticipating
for months now.
i'd say i at 2.5 g's and was totally nervous waiting to come up and when i did it was a super pleasant and very positive trip.
i never had dark thoughts, and even when trying to bring up things that
have been bothering me i realized that most of that all stems from weed anxiety and the things that i let get to me are tiny little non issues.
i think there is room for every person to try psychedelics and feel
that the experience is one that is a gift to humanity, and a totally
eye opening expression of the complexity that is society and our universe or just existence in general.

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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: Natorade]
    #13784471 - 01/14/11 02:50 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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My parents would fucking kill me if they knew, but I've let my brother try dmt. He got into smoking weed on his own though. He has even said that since he has been hanging around me and using drugs responsibly he feels much more intelligent. It's like it makes learning interesting for him. Which it does for me, so I'd imagine it's no different for him. I've always been one to delve into whatever I could though and learn as much as I could about a particular topic.




how old is he?




He will be sixteen this year. He has broken through once and attempted two other times. I was trip sitting him from a chair in my room while he laid in my bed. He had a blank stare on his face for about a minute, then slowly, a smile started to crack on his face, and ended with him grinning so fucking hard ear to ear for about five minutes. I was just thinking, "Dude, he is fucking there! He is fucking there!". It made be feel good. A dmt trip lasts about ten to fifteen minutes tops off about 45mg. I have smoked 85mg before and tripped close to thirty minutes.


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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: destructo_low]
    #13784493 - 01/14/11 03:02 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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destructo_low said:
My parents would fucking kill me if they knew, but I've let my brother try dmt. He got into smoking weed on his own though. He has even said that since he has been hanging around me and using drugs responsibly he feels much more intelligent. It's like it makes learning interesting for him. Which it does for me, so I'd imagine it's no different for him. I've always been one to delve into whatever I could though and learn as much as I could about a particular topic.




how old is he?




He will be sixteen this year. He has broken through once and attempted two other times. I was trip sitting him from a chair in my room while he laid in my bed. He had a blank stare on his face for about a minute, then slowly, a smile started to crack on his face, and ended with him grinning so fucking hard ear to ear for about five minutes. I was just thinking, "Dude, he is fucking there! He is fucking there!". It made be feel good. A dmt trip lasts about ten to fifteen minutes tops off about 45mg. I have smoked 85mg before and tripped close to thirty minutes.




thats awesome. ive only had the pleasure of trying dmt once but i didnt breakthrough. still amazing though, cant wait til i can give it another go. and i always thought itd have been cool to have an older brother to show me the way. instead i have a younger sister (15 y/o) who would tell on me if i even offered her weed :ohwell: have you ever talked to him about shrooms or acid or anything?

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Re: Low dose psychedelics... [Re: Natorade]
    #13784502 - 01/14/11 03:09 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

He knows about mushrooms, acid, and their effects. I've pretty much told him everything I know. He basically watched every part of the dmt extraction. He also was there when I attempted to grow some mushrooms. It's really tempting to go for it again, but I know if my parents found the stuff in my room, they would kick me out, but it's so fucking tempting. :sad: I also let him try like 75mg of some methylone. That was a nice introduction to etheogens for him. What's amazing is he was hours from dying a few years ago from a diabetic coma. We had no idea he suddenly had diabetes. He is very lucky to be alive and very grateful for it, because he never would have be able to experience dmt otherwise. We were smoking weed outside one night, and I was explaining life and the universe to him. He just paused for about ten seconds while staring at the ground. Then he said, "Wow. Life is really...weird". It was magical hearing him say that. That's when you are no longer blissfully ignorant (but you still are), and you actually realize how fucking amazing it is to be alive. I will be twenty this April if you were curious.


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