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Net Trap
#13666543 - 12/21/10 05:52 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Was thinking about building a net trap. The idea I have is to fix two half circle pipes together and attach a net to it. So That when it closes anything that was inside the trap will get caught. A bit like a giant fish mouth that can lie flat on the ground.
The thing I am trying to figure out now is what would be the best way to make it swing shut very fast and to make a good trigger that can be triggered remotely.
Hope this explaination is clear enough. Let me know if it isn't.
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Re: Net Trap [Re: Kamek]
#13727549 - 01/04/11 02:07 AM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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if thats the method you are going to follow; a trigger idea would be much like a double ended snare. its a notch system that will hold the "mouth" system in which your trap will use. two reverse pressure bars will interlock through a notch setup, once the bait is touch or moved the link at the notch will fault; therefore remove the pressure holding your trap open; in turn trapping the fish.
if you could say what your are trying to trap i will be able to help more. i come from a long line of trappers (old family bus), and could help you out a bit more.
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I was thinking about trying to catch birds. I want to make it remote controlled with a piece of string or something so I can decide when to let it snap shut instead of having the birds set it off. That way I might be able to catch a couple at once instead of catching the first one to arrive. Also I would be able to prevent catching stuff I don't want.
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Re: Net Trap [Re: Kamek]
#13729930 - 01/04/11 04:56 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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it depends on how simple you wanna get. simple trap is to take a large bin. lay the bin on the ground with the opening facing the ground. prop a end of the bin up with a large stick; attached a string to the center of the stick and allow enough line to where you will be watching. once the birds begin to eat to the feed; pull the string; therefore closing the trap on the birds. thats about as simple as it gets imo, and yes it does work.
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I know about that. I've made one of those in the past. What I want to make now is a trap that lies flat on the ground on which I can throw bait. Then when a bunch of birds are eating the bait I want to be able to pull a string or something so it snaps shut. I'm thinking light metal and net are probably the best materials to use. I'm just stuck on the trigger device. What would work to make a big trap snap shut in an instant?
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Re: Net Trap [Re: Kamek]
#13730648 - 01/04/11 07:12 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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what about a remote claymore? we used to make a trap that would be a coffee can with a bunch of black powder in it covered in nuts and bolts. We put some food on top and then hit the button to fire the model rocket igniter while the animals head was above it. Freezer full of meat fast. It is funny when you waste a shot on a squirrel.
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southernrunner13 said: it depends on how simple you wanna get. simple trap is to take a large bin. lay the bin on the ground with the opening facing the ground. prop a end of the bin up with a large stick; attached a string to the center of the stick and allow enough line to where you will be watching. once the birds begin to eat to the feed; pull the string; therefore closing the trap on the birds. thats about as simple as it gets imo, and yes it does work.
you can also set a pressure trigger so that when the bird touches it to take the bait the trigger will release, much better than waiting for a bird that may not come because you're waiting for it... most people just dont have the patience to sit for a day or two
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Re: Net Trap [Re: Kamek]
#13731617 - 01/04/11 09:55 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kamek said: What would work to make a big trap snap shut in an instant?
the premise that you're working on seems to be that of a jawed trap like a bear trap
just how large would you make it?
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Check out some Egyptian culture traps. They're exactly the same idea. However, two guys would pull the ropes to close the trap, thus ensnaring the wildlife. The pressure point is a good idea. However, if one bird sets it off, you get one bird. The point of these traps is to ensnare a large amount of wildlife at a single point in time. GL, I like the idea, def. old-school
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near enough to the trap to see it and you catch no birds
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Worked for the Egyptians thousands of years ago...Y won't it work now? It's about baiting & knowing your prey. If you're sitting in bushes & some deer walk past you, you can shoot them from 20ft away, right? Same thing. Real Hunting.
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there's a lot more to it than that, to effectively trap animals you have to know where to set them, you need to know how to cover scents for many types of prey, set a snare on a rabbit trail and it could be days before the snare is triggered even if you're not there to trigger it. this is why trappers set dozens of traps
egyptians were hunters more than trappers, the frescoes you see depicting trapping may not be entirely accurate, they may have done something like mist netting to trap birds, again, no interaction with the trap other than setting it
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when it comes to birds in the yard, there wont be too much tracking involved.
like previous poster said, you can re-rig a foot trap. the only thing is i do not know if the weight of a birds peck or foot will hold enough power to set off the trap.
you could rig a pin (attached to a string) which hold the jaw-like trap open. you would have to have a spring applying reverse pressure to the center of the trap. releasing the pin would then in turn release the pressure of the spring and close the trap.
another choice would simply be a humane trap; prop the door open and set the release; add some bait. the only thing about that is i dont believe you will be able to catch the quantity of birds you desire.
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Kamek said: What would work to make a big trap snap shut in an instant?
the premise that you're working on seems to be that of a jawed trap like a bear trap
just how large would you make it?
As large as possible. Maybe a meter diameter if possible. So that'd be 3 feet across I suppose.
The idea is to start feeding in one spot for a couple of days and make the birds grow accustomed to that spot. Then I'd put the trap out and within a short time there should be a bunch of birds feeding. Then spring the trap and catch 5 or more at once. Especially when it has snowed outside it's very easy to bait birds since they're having a hard time finding food. Think I should be able to catch 10 or more at once.
Right now I am mainly thinking about catching pigeons.
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southernrunner13 said: when it comes to birds in the yard, there wont be too much tracking involved.
depends on the birds but for small birds the net is the only way to catch quantity
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Re: Net Trap [Re: Kamek]
#13748637 - 01/07/11 06:49 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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if you're catching them to eat, try glue traps
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Re: Net Trap [Re: falcon]
#13776669 - 01/12/11 09:03 PM (2 years, 4 months ago) |
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well to clear it up then, OP; what type of birds are you attempting to trap & where are these birds located (yard, clearing somewhere, field, etc.)?
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I already said I'd be catching pigeons. I'd love to catch bigger birds as well but I don't think a trap like this would be much use for that.
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Re: Net Trap [Re: Kamek]
#13811664 - 01/19/11 01:24 AM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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that solves the "q"
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