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Difference in using coco coir with vermiculite for casing?
    #13768393 - 01/11/11 01:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

What is the difference in using just vermiculite versus using a 40/60 ratio of coco coir with vermiculite in a casing?  Would there be differences in timing, number of flushes, or size of flushes?  Is it advisable to use just vermiculite to case a colonize rye substrate?


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Re: Difference in using coco coir with vermiculite for casing? [Re: shroombo]
    #13768423 - 01/11/11 01:54 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

verm and coir both suck as casing layers.

they are ingredients in a bulk substrate.


try peatmoss/verm if you feel like casing.

but keep in mind that cubensis do not need a casing layer.


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Re: Difference in using coco coir with vermiculite for casing? [Re: k00laid]
    #13768448 - 01/11/11 01:58 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

This is my first time trying to case.  If cubensis don't need a casing can someone please point me somewhere that can show me how to use the colonized rye that i have?


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Re: Difference in using coco coir with vermiculite for casing? [Re: shroombo]
    #13768458 - 01/11/11 01:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

search for damion5050's coir tek.

that will get you goin


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Re: Difference in using coco coir with vermiculite for casing? [Re: shroombo]
    #13768469 - 01/11/11 02:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

if you're just starting and you want to spawn to a substrate, not a casing..i would suggest just trying coir for your first attempt...


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Re: Difference in using coco coir with vermiculite for casing? [Re: shroombo]
    #13768484 - 01/11/11 02:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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What is the difference in using just vermiculite versus using a 40/60 ratio of coco coir with vermiculite in a casing?  Would there be differences in timing, number of flushes, or size of flushes?  Is it advisable to use just vermiculite to case a colonize rye substrate?



Coco-coir is not a casing material.
Coir is a bulk substrate material.

Peat moss is the organic material used in casing covers with the the vermiculite at equal parts.
Add 1 part gypsum and .25 parts agricultural nydrated lime to each 10 parts peat moss/vermiculite casing mix.

Vermiculite alone will work as a sub-optimal casing cover.
It's best to add the peat moss as a non-nutritious organic material to vermiculite as a casing cover.

Peat moss is an organic material.
When pasteurized properly, peat moss contains the beneficial microbes that battle invader spores.
When using vermiculite alone, sterilize it in a pre-heated oven at 350F for a half an hour.
Vermiculite can also be steam sterilized or pressure sterilized each for 90 minutes.


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Re: Difference in using coco coir with vermiculite for casing? [Re: k00laid]
    #13768513 - 01/11/11 02:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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k00laid said:
search for damion5050's coir tek.

that will get you goin



Thanks this tek is perfect.


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Re: Difference in using coco coir with vermiculite for casing? [Re: shroombo]
    #13768775 - 01/11/11 02:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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k00laid said:
search for damion5050's coir tek.

that will get you goin



Thanks this tek is perfect.




you gota learn teh differance between a casing layer and substrate..... casing = water retention, substrate is food.


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Re: Difference in using coco coir with vermiculite for casing? [Re: Harley.Hammerhead]
    #13768788 - 01/11/11 02:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

AS everyone has said coir is no longer used as a casing layer.. 

Bulk substrate = coir and verm..  or poo and verm

Casing = peat moss and verm


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Re: Difference in using coco coir with vermiculite for casing? [Re: Damion5050]
    #13779733 - 01/13/11 01:20 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Difference in using coco coir with vermiculite for casing? [Re: panaelorama]
    #13779738 - 01/13/11 01:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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