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'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC!
    #13654246 - 12/19/10 12:05 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)


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Desomorphine is a derivative of morphine first synthesized in the US in the early 1930s.  Originally viewed as a potential alternative to morphine, the compound was found to have a significantly shorter half life (the effects last four hours at the most), and so was for the most part neglected by the medical community.  Recently though, desomorphine, nicknamed “crocodile,” has become popular in Russia, where it is manufactured (very cheaply) with over-the-counter codeine in a reaction similar to that used for cooking meth.  The results are apparently rather gruesome:

    A number of chemical substances are used in the homemade production of desomorphine. These include industrial acids, alkalis, and organic solvents (petrol, etc.). In most cases industrial quality chemicals are used, rather than purified forms intended for consumption.

    This mixture of compounds, used in the process of making desomorphine, and not filtered out later, often contains high concentrations of iodine, which disrupts the endocrine system and causes muscular disorders; phosphorus, which attacks bone tissue; and dangerous admixtures of heavy metals such as iron, zinc, lead and antimony, which cause disorders of the nervous system, mineral imbalances, and inflammation of the liver and kidneys.

    Drug addiction often follows the first dose. Desomorphine users suffer from an acute deterioration in their general health, including a weakened immune system and failing liver. Their circulation is so effected that their limbs gradually wither and die. Non-healing ulcers appear on the body and a person literally rots alive. Veins located near the injection sites “burn up.”

This information is coming from the Russian state media, so it should be taken with a proper degree of wariness. There is, however, no doubt that homemade/crudely manufactured pharmaceuticals are often less than safe, and this situation is not unique to Russia; the majority of heroin overdoses in the United States are a result of reckless/malicious cuts such a fentanyl, and any street dose is liable to contain unwanted chemicals that are best not put into veins.

If heroin and other such narcotics were legally available there would be little more risk of overdose than with any other legal drug (and significantly less than with alcohol).  The state would not be faced with horrible drug epidemics, hospitals would not devote mass resources to treating overdoses and addictions, and no one would have to worry about their limbs rotting off.










has anyone ever heard of this shit? basically its a crude form of desomorphine that is cooked using red phos/iodine and OTC codeine pills you can buy in russia for like 5$, they then cook it down in this dirty brown/black liquid, then inject it for a 30 second rush. but basically they dont filter it or do anything to it after cooking it, so they ultimately end up injecting iodines, phos, heavy metals, all sorts of nasty shit and they begin to rot inside out. immune system basically stop and people lose all there limbs in the most graphically horrible way.



another video all in russian but defintely worth watching
http://www.rian.ru/video/20100423/225860005.html

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xajhtm_tianeptine-drug-users_news

just absurd, idk what to say. I was totally unaware of such nonsense.

I thought I would pub this as it is wildly graphic and a horrible reality I was totally unaware of.


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    #13654255 - 12/19/10 12:09 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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    #13654269 - 12/19/10 12:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I always get the feeling watching shit like this that russia smells of really old cheese for some reason


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    #13654270 - 12/19/10 12:13 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Those pics are strait nasty


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: snoot]
    #13654275 - 12/19/10 12:13 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Now if real drugs went so hard to find would this be happeing?....


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    #13654283 - 12/19/10 12:16 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Those pics are strait nasty





watch that video once, you may want to turn down the volume in advanced if you cant handle the sound of a saw cutting threw bone.


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    #13654287 - 12/19/10 12:17 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Now if real drugs went so hard to find would this be happeing?....




No man, we just have to make more stuff illegal!  :tardhi:


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: Belac]
    #13654293 - 12/19/10 12:19 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

ill bookmark this so whenever i need to puke ill watch this


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    #13654308 - 12/19/10 12:24 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

omfg that video was fucking intense.


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    #13654309 - 12/19/10 12:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

This is horrible... People. No matter what will find a way to make/get drugs and if u do things like make clean needles not available well do you think junkies are just gunna stop? No. This global war on drugs is not working, it's making things worse, MUCH worse. Case in point desomorphine.

I'm not saying we should hand out pills on the street corner but hey, make clean supplies available. Make pure lab grade chemicals available if the industrial chems are.

There is a solution to this problem.


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: the human abstract]
    #13654310 - 12/19/10 12:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)




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Desomorphine is a synthetically derived morphine isomer (the outdated version of the name is morphine). It was originally derived during the search for morphine substitutes. Desomorphine has not been widely used in medicine.

At the beginning of the 20th century, U.S. scientists attempted to derive new morphine-based medicines with a strong analgesic effect that do not cause chemical dependence. As a result, scientists settled on several pharmacologically active substances, of which desomorphine and methadone were the most promising.

Animal trials of desomorphine showed that, by comparison with morphine, its analgesic effect was stronger and more rapid. It was later found, however, that the effect lasted on average about four hours, causing a quicker addiction. For this very reason, desomorphine has not found a practical application as an analgesic.

Desomorphine was briefly used abroad as a postoperative analgesic. It was available in the form of hydrobromic acid salt under the name of Permonid, produced by Roche.

Recent years have seen a renewed interest in desomorphine as a narcotic. Its effect is very similar to that of heroin. Both substances cause the same strong dependence and lead to an irreversible destruction of the organism.

Desomorphine first appeared on the Russian market in 2003. Recently, there has been an epidemiological increase in the number of drug addicts, mostly young people, using this unconventional drug.

The main reason for desomorphine’s appearance and spread is the simplicity and accessibility of its preparation. Due to the relatively cheap, quick, and very crude preparation equipment needed in home industry, the drug is fairly inexpensive. Desomorphine is not available as a medicine. It is derived from a haphazard mix of codeine-based medications and household chemicals. In Russia, most codeine-based medicines are available without prescription, making it quite easy to produce desomorphine at home.

The result is a "dirty", and consequently a highly dangerous, drug. A number of chemical substances are used in the homemade production of desomorphine. These include industrial acids, alkalis, and organic solvents (petrol, etc.). In most cases industrial quality chemicals are used, rather than purified forms intended for consumption.

This mixture of compounds, used in the process of making desomorphine, and not filtered out later, often contains high concentrations of iodine, which disrupts the endocrine system and causes muscular disorders; phosphorus, which attacks bone tissue; and dangerous admixtures of heavy metals such as iron, zinc, lead and antimony, which cause disorders of the nervous system, mineral imbalances, and inflammation of the liver and kidneys.

Drug addiction often follows the first dose. Desomorphine users suffer from an acute deterioration in their general health, including a weakened immune system and failing liver. Their circulation is so effected that their limbs gradually wither and die. Non-healing ulcers appear on the body and a person literally rots alive. Veins located near the injection sites "burn up." Those addicted to desomorphine do not survive for more than a year (for comparison: even heroin addicts have a survival rate of up to five years).

In addition, hepatitis C is reported in 33% of desomorphine addicts, according to health authorities.

Due to the chemical properties of desomorphine, those addicted to the drug never go into remission. Half the patients go back to taking the drug or start taking codeine pills.

Previously, desomorphine addicts were largely former heroin addicts. Recently, there have been more cases of drug addiction beginning with desomorphine.

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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: the human abstract]
    #13654313 - 12/19/10 12:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: 2Cents]
    #13654317 - 12/19/10 12:26 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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This is horrible... People. No matter what will find a way to make/get drugs and if u do things like make clean needles not available well do you think junkies are just gunna stop? No. This global war on drugs is not working, it's making things worse, MUCH worse. Case in point desomorphine.

I'm not saying we should hand out pills on the street corner but hey, make clean supplies available. Make pure lab grade chemicals available if the industrial chems are.

There is a solution to this problem.





the funny thing is the preparation method they are using isnt likely to be producing what they think is, they are using a half assed procedure commonly used to make meth and converting it to make desomorphine.

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The Russian makers only get a low yield or an impure product BUT codeine phosphate capsules are about $1.50/50x25mg so the start material is cheap. The exact route varies from maker to maker but they all seem to do more or less this:

1-Codeine + SOCl2 ---> α-Chlorocodide + HCl + SO2

2-α-Chlorocodide + I2 ---> 7,8 diiodo α-Chlorocodide

3-7,8 diiodo α-Chlorocodide + HI ----> desomorphine

Basically steps 2 & 3 are done in 1 pot. The iodine adds across the 7,8 double-bond in the same way Br adds across a double bond. The chemist then adds P to make HI which is a reducing agent. It removes the Is. The HI also demethylates the 3-methoxy. Looking at a list of the stuff formed, 6 or 7 impurities are found in varying amounts. Yield of product is about 30% at best. Of course, the stuff is x10 morphine so about 4x heroin (the BNF directs doctors that diamorphine is x2.5 morphine in medical uses).
Now, the product has a bare phenol on it so it cannot be smoked. One can readily esterify this compound (acetyl ester, nicotinic ester and so on) so it's BP becomes sufficiently low.
I will do a full test including pictures if enough people ask me to. It's about £300 of stuff I will use and I have no interest in taking the product... or selling... or giving away.




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    #13654345 - 12/19/10 12:32 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

damnation

I can't imagine what it would be like to be super fucked and knowing the exact chemical that you're getting off to is literally leading you to decay


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: DrMambo]
    #13654350 - 12/19/10 12:35 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, I'll say it. 4X Heroin, and the major damage is done by poor chemistry. Sounds intriguing to me.


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: snoot]
    #13654352 - 12/19/10 12:35 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sure stupid peope making it is a large factor... It's a shame. To bad it's so expensive to get a good chemistry set up. With $200 in glassware and better quality chems. Maybe these folks would save them selves a lot of hurt.


But on second thought...they are junkies.


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    #13654357 - 12/19/10 12:37 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm sure stupid peope making it is a large factor... It's a shame. To bad it's so expensive to get a good chemistry set up. With $200 in glassware and better quality chems. Maybe these folks would save them selves a lot of hurt.


But on second thought...they are junkies.





the fascinating part to me is that they claim 30$/gram H is way to expensive, way too much so that they start injecting themselves with heavy metals and iodine and what not. :facepalm:


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    #13654363 - 12/19/10 12:39 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe their stuff is cut to like 5% or something?


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    #13654379 - 12/19/10 12:44 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

This is fucking horrible, but

"Its effect is very similar to that of heroin. Both substances cause the same strong dependence and lead to an irreversible destruction of the organism."

this makes no fucking sense. There is a clear line between doing heroin and injecting what you know contains poisons, metals, and all sorts of other shit :facepalm:

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    #13654404 - 12/19/10 12:52 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

From what I've heard, opiates alone generally cause little harm physically.

Of course mentally you're screwed.


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    #13654415 - 12/19/10 12:56 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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From what I've heard, opiates alone generally cause little harm physically.

Of course mentally you're screwed.





long term opiate abuse isnt really that harmful, its all the stuff that comes with it, esp with an IV abuse habit, and other harmful methods of ingestion. Also depends alot on the purity of the product. one could take opiates all there life and experience little to no physical altercations, cant' say the same for alcohol or other things.


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    #13654422 - 12/19/10 12:59 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

There's a large list of drugs I avoid just because I believe drugs with day-after effects aren't worth it. I'm already pissed off that the fun is over, I don't need to feel shitty.

Screw alcohol and amphetamines.

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    #13654429 - 12/19/10 01:03 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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There's a large list of drugs I avoid just because I believe drugs with day-after effects aren't worth it. I'm already pissed off that the fun is over, I don't need to feel shitty.

Screw alcohol and amphetamines.

EDIT: Apologies for being off topic.




well if I did that I wouldntve had the pleasure to party with mdma/lsd/shrooms etc... with every up there is a down, and the sweet would never be as sweet without the sour. ettc...etc...etc....


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    #13654452 - 12/19/10 01:10 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'm just pissed because I've spent all day feeling the backhand of an alcohol & mdma combo.  :lol:


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    #13654476 - 12/19/10 01:22 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm just pissed because I've spent all day feeling the backhand of an alcohol & mdma combo.  :lol:





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    #13654483 - 12/19/10 01:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I might just be brainfried right now, but I don't follow.


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    #13654495 - 12/19/10 01:34 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I might just be brainfried right now, but I don't follow.






its all good brother, your leg could be rotting off as you sit shaking, soaked from panic due to acute opiate withdrawl and the fact that you are dying in the most brutal way, helpless.:congrats:


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    #13654594 - 12/19/10 02:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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    #13654881 - 12/19/10 05:52 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The second bit of that video was INTENSE :zomgwtf:

I didn't expect to see what i  saw..


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    #13655755 - 12/19/10 12:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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The second bit of that video was INTENSE :zomgwtf:

I didn't expect to see what i  saw..





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    #13655792 - 12/19/10 12:14 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Make drugs more illegal and we always have this desomorphine or other chemicals.

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    #13655828 - 12/19/10 12:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Fucking Russia. Did you notice how shady of an amputation that was? They wheeled him out into the common room or some shit and then sawed through his bones with some fucking metal floss shit. That's about the equivalent of a coat hanger abortion. Any professional amputation would be done in a sterile environment, and they'd probably at least use a bone saw.

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    #13655874 - 12/19/10 12:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Fucking Russia. Did you notice how shady of an amputation that was? They wheeled him out into the common room or some shit and then sawed through his bones with some fucking metal floss shit. That's about the equivalent of a coat hanger abortion. Any professional amputation would be done in a sterile environment, and they'd probably at least use a bone saw.





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    #13655922 - 12/19/10 12:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Fucking Russia. Did you notice how shady of an amputation that was? They wheeled him out into the common room or some shit and then sawed through his bones with some fucking metal floss shit. That's about the equivalent of a coat hanger abortion. Any professional amputation would be done in a sterile environment, and they'd probably at least use a bone saw.





its russia man




plus i don't think they really feel that that person is going to survive...

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    #13655995 - 12/19/10 01:01 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Fucking Russia. Did you notice how shady of an amputation that was? They wheeled him out into the common room or some shit and then sawed through his bones with some fucking metal floss shit. That's about the equivalent of a coat hanger abortion. Any professional amputation would be done in a sterile environment, and they'd probably at least use a bone saw.





its russia man




plus i don't think they really feel that that person is going to survive...

couldn't finish that





yeah its in the news, everyone of those people interviewed died shortly after being interviewed, mostly from sepsis and some other toxicity thing I forget what its called.


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    #13656011 - 12/19/10 01:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Okay, I'll say it. 4X Heroin, and the major damage is done by poor chemistry. Sounds intriguing to me.



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    #13656024 - 12/19/10 01:07 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

in regards to pumpkin face;

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He shot up that stuff into his neck (no veins left anywhere else i presume), it poisoned his brain and surrounding tissue really fast just like it does with legs and arms. Difference is that when it happens you can amputate the leg or an arm but with neck and brain you can not cut off the head. So poor guy died a little after that interview.
He died from toxic encephalopathy resulted from huge amounts of poisonous phosphorus/iodine byproducts
from making illicit opiate from over the counter codeine tablets.
Doctor says that usually cause of death among those desomorphine users is toxic encephalopathy plus serious
infections of tissue, bone, internal organs (liver,kidneys,lungs) that result sepsis with major organ failure.




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    #13656044 - 12/19/10 01:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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    #13656053 - 12/19/10 01:14 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i just realized, wasn't o-desmethylcodeine on the market for a while there?  I should look into that...


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    #13656083 - 12/19/10 01:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I heard that in soviet Russia opiates do you. Any truth to that?


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    #13656090 - 12/19/10 01:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I heard that in soviet Russia opiates do you. Any truth to that?




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    #13656114 - 12/19/10 01:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Okay, I'll say it. 4X Heroin, and the major damage is done by poor chemistry. Sounds intriguing to me.





intriguing?


you'd have to be a major fucking addict to take something that rots your skin and keep taking it, how long does that shit stay in your system? sounds like major addicts, fucking major addicts in russia that is gross as fuck fucking need some serious rehab over there, at least in the u.s. the government spends a lot of money for people to go to rehab, guess it's worth it i thought we had it bad here


this is the equivalent here:

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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: snoot] * 1
    #13656118 - 12/19/10 01:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Here's a secret: if opiates were widely available in refined, reliably purified form, none of this shit would ever happen, and even the most irredeemable of junkies would never experience "irreversible destruction of the organism." Heroin overdoses would be as common as aspirin overdoses, if not for the fact that a heroin overdose is probably a more pleasant way to commit suicide.

(In fact, with legalization of heroin, we would probably see an unexpected fringe benefit: a sharp decline in aspirin overdoses.)

I disagree with "mentally you're screwed," quite strongly. Heroin makes violent criminals because its only home in the culture is with violent criminals.

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    #13656149 - 12/19/10 01:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

you gotta be kidding me


sharing needles is one of the worst diseases there is, i've seen people do it, and it's a great way to spread h.i.v.


junkies don't think dude, and a junkie doesn't have to be any certain way the way people have to have a fighting personality to be in a gang. a junkie just has to be a junkie.


sure, making it illegal doesn't stop people from using it, but if you ever go to a rehab center you'll see all types of health problems from people getting fucked up. they may not have had much to begin with in the first place, but they sure screw themselves up none the less.


i do agree with one thing, crack is messed up, you need coke to make it though but you can have the worst coke and just cook it down from the baking soda and it's basically wack crack coke

but our worst crack is so much safer than that heroin crack bullshit


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    #13656152 - 12/19/10 01:39 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I disagree with "mentally you're screwed," quite strongly. Heroin makes violent criminals because its only home in the culture is with violent criminals.





that much is true, but drugs do make people mentally screwed, it changes their chemistry, the way they think, the way their body works. I'm not a mormon freak giving a catholic lecture. I've seen this happen. People aren't the same, their brain chemistry changes and they think differently


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    #13656161 - 12/19/10 01:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Meh, take a couple grams of ibogaine and call me in a week.


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: imachavel]
    #13656337 - 12/19/10 02:14 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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russia is a piece of crap country, always has been, and that hasn't changed and isn't going to




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    #13656382 - 12/19/10 02:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Okay, I'll say it. 4X Heroin, and the major damage is done by poor chemistry. Sounds intriguing to me.





intriguing?


you'd have to be a major fucking addict to take something that rots your skin and keep taking it, how long does that shit stay in your system? sounds like major addicts, fucking major addicts in russia that is gross as fuck fucking need some serious rehab over there, at least in the u.s. the government spends a lot of money for people to go to rehab, guess it's worth it i thought we had it bad here




I think you misunderstand the fundamental basis of the post you were responding to.

Crocodile rots your skin because of the clandestine methods used to produce it. The stuff is loaded with byproducts and contaminants that make you sick as fuck.

The desomorphine, itself, does not rot your skin. Nor does any opiate that has been produced and distributed according to regulation.

Needle-sharing is a byproduct of the situation in which an addict spends his life in pursuit of his Holy Grail, the substance to which he is addicted, and the needle is a secondary concern.

We see the same situation in America with methamphetamine, cocaine, and heroin. Weed and psychedelics have escaped this affair because God loves psychedelics.

(By which I mean weed is a plant and doesn't need to be synthesized, same with fungi, LSD is active at such low doses that contaminants are irrelevant, and research chemicals are legal to synthesize.)

I've said it once, I'll say it again: opiates are dangerous because they're illegal.


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #13656390 - 12/19/10 02:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

So are you saying that if they were legal they'd be 100% safe? :confused2:


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    #13656394 - 12/19/10 02:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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    #13656406 - 12/19/10 02:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

rehab doesnt exist in russia, they handcuff you to a bed with 50 other men in a room feed you only bread and water, for 27 days.



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Addicts who come to the all-male centre at Izoplit, most of them at the insistence of their parents, spend the first 27 days "in quarantine".

They live together in a crowded, barred room, fed on a "monastic diet" of bread and water to clean their system.

Only those with heroin-related medical conditions like HIV or Hepatitis B are given medication and fed proper meals.

About 50 men - half the addicts at the centre - are in the room at any one time.






asfar as 'mentally screwed', well when you're an addict, and you're aware of the addiction, sure it changes you, the chemistry is altered, thats the nature of being an addict(junkie). I do believe however that that chemistry can revert back to its normal settings, and you can become 'mentally unscrewed' just as it takes years and years to become a addict(junkie) it takes years and years to get back in balance with your normal self. You can't just detox and expect to be "normal" again, it takes time, time to break habits, break thinking patterns, but as time progresses your rationality begins to shift back to its regular ways. and all is well in the jungle. you know tho naturally I think if a person does recover the curve of which they can become a addict again is far more sharp and severe. and only takes a one slip to go back to those old ways. :boobs:


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    #13656427 - 12/19/10 02:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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So are you saying that if they were legal they'd be 100% safe? :confused2:





with changes in legalities and with proper education, I think yes most if not all 'drugs' can be legal, and openly sold and possessed, all done in a safe manner. Look at all the other things that can get you high and kill you just as easily that are openly sold to anyone, but these drugs that are far more safe are controlled and regulated. this inturn makes these 'drugs' dangerous and highly criminalized in its business practices.

I think if opiates and what not were openly sold, OD's would drop sharply, robberies, murders etc.. etc.. would drop sharply, people who are junkies would be cared for by loved ones, and would be morally obligated to either clean up or be who they are. It is entirely possible for anyone to h and coke and be functional., Recreationally that is, alcohol is far more scary to me then someone all doped up//


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    #13656448 - 12/19/10 02:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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If heroin and other such narcotics were legally available there would be little more risk of overdose..bla bla bla




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with changes in legalities and with proper education, I think yes most if not all 'drugs' can be legal, and openly sold and possessed, all done in a safe manner. Look at all the other things that can get you high and kill you just as easily that are openly sold to anyone, but these drugs that are far more safe are controlled and regulated. this inturn makes these 'drugs' dangerous and highly criminalized in its business practices.

I think if opiates and what not were openly sold, OD's would drop sharply, robberies, murders etc.. etc.. would drop sharply, people who are junkies would be cared for by loved ones, and would be morally obligated to either clean up or be who they are. It is entirely possible for anyone to h and coke and be functional., Recreationally that is, alcohol is far more scary to me then someone all doped up//




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    #13656459 - 12/19/10 02:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Safer than alcohol and tobacco, to be certain.



LOL its not like these are the most harmless stuff you could come up with...


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    #13656466 - 12/19/10 02:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Is that stuff you said about Russian Rehab true, though?

Jesus Christ. No wonder Russians prefer rotten skin.


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Safer than alcohol and tobacco, to be certain.



LOL its not like these are the most harmless stuff you could come up with...




Right, it's almost as though they're even more harmful than methamphetamine, cocaine, and heroin, right?


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    #13657166 - 12/19/10 04:55 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Holy shit that drug must be awesome if people will rot alive just to get to use it. 


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Is that stuff you said about Russian Rehab true, though?

Jesus Christ. No wonder Russians prefer rotten skin.




yeah man, they refuse to even consider using things like subutex and suboxone. the only way they know is to lock you in a cell or put you in these detox centers, and maybe give you a couple sleeping pills. its pretty nuts. imagine having your legs skin rot off all whilst withdrawling. :facepalm:


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    #13657713 - 12/19/10 06:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Safer than alcohol and tobacco, to be certain.




Drugs don't kill people, people kill people. Or another way to say it would be, "Ignorance is its own death sentence".


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    #13659429 - 12/20/10 01:59 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

not just your skin, but your flesh, too

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    #13659446 - 12/20/10 02:13 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Is that stuff you said about Russian Rehab true, though?

Jesus Christ. No wonder Russians prefer rotten skin.




yeah man, they refuse to even consider using things like subutex and suboxone. the only way they know is to lock you in a cell or put you in these detox centers, and maybe give you a couple sleeping pills. its pretty nuts. imagine having your legs skin rot off all whilst withdrawling. :facepalm:




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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: Hakim0777]
    #13659587 - 12/20/10 03:39 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

That shit is just crazy, humanity has taken a very wrong turn when people are willing to do that to themselves.

God the foot was just hanging there dead on the bones, the zombie apocalypse really is coming.


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: LustfulLinsanity]
    #13659639 - 12/20/10 04:23 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

They must be really poor and living in such a fucked up community to inject this anti deprissiva in their vains to let rot of their body parts....


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    #13659779 - 12/20/10 06:07 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I don't exactly trust what Russian media reports on.  I was reading about this on opiophile and some of the people there were suggesting this being the result of red phosphorus impurities during synthesis, acidification of the body, and injecting solid materials.  The same type of shit can happen if you inject poorly made methamphetamine, or even certain pills (because of the fillers).  If the people making this shit weren't completely retarded they probably wouldn't have these issues.  I doubt these types of injuries are as common as the Russian media is making it out to be.


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    #13659782 - 12/20/10 06:09 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't exactly trust what Russian media reports on.  I was reading about this on opiophile and some of the people there were suggesting this being the result of red phosphorus impurities during synthesis, acidification of the body, and injecting solid materials.  The same type of shit can happen if you inject poorly made methamphetamine, or even certain pills (because of the fillers).  If the people making this shit weren't completely retarded they probably wouldn't have these issues.  I doubt these types of injuries are as common as the Russian media is making it out to be.



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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: Beanhead]
    #13659800 - 12/20/10 06:15 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Christ.. that video is horrible. :argh:

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    #13659904 - 12/20/10 07:19 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Because it :feelsgoodman: of course


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: mellowparty]
    #13659913 - 12/20/10 07:31 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I reccomend cannabis,
but maybe they dont have it there.
Or maybe they cant pay it.

But still im asking myself,what on earth is so sweet to take the risk that your body parts fall off your body?


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: henk600]
    #13659936 - 12/20/10 07:43 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I wonder if this is also from "crocodile"?

Maggots on leg

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    #13659945 - 12/20/10 07:49 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

That was fucking sick........

At least he could clean his legs of from that 100 worms......


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: HairyTaco]
    #13659958 - 12/20/10 07:56 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I've been telling people about this stuff for a while. I don't know if anyone has seen the video of the doctors operating on this russian lady who was ridiculously skinny and perhaps a prostitute.


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I wonder if this is also from "crocodile"?

Maggots on leg




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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: henk600]
    #13659969 - 12/20/10 08:00 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

It isn't the drug that does that, it is the impurities from a poor extraction.  There are people in the US with the same shit happening to them from shooting black tar heroin.  Why people inject that garbage has always been a mystery to me, but usually people don't start out IVing it.  Once you are addicted to opiates your priorities change.  You are more afraid of being sick right now than possible risks in the future.


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    #13659981 - 12/20/10 08:03 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Is there other ways of doing "crocodile" other than shooting it?  I'm sure you would still get the impurities ether way, but I'm just wondering.

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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: HairyTaco]
    #13659984 - 12/20/10 08:04 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah you could run affinity chromatography :rolleyes:


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: fapjack]
    #13660176 - 12/20/10 10:02 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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It isn't the drug that does that, it is the impurities from a poor extraction.  There are people in the US with the same shit happening to them from shooting black tar heroin.  Why people inject that garbage has always been a mystery to me, but usually people don't start out IVing it.  Once you are addicted to opiates your priorities change.  You are more afraid of being sick right now than possible risks in the future.





I've never seen anyone in america allow themselves to rot in such away before seeking medical attention. everything I've learned about this shit was all stemmed from opiophile. and the post made by bugsy. I actually really dont care how many times it happens nor how common it really is in russia. The fact that it does is just beyond me. I'm not really sure what is most astonishing about such atrocities, the way they let themselves go like that, or the way they prepare there drugs for IV. Such things happen to people who use Kompote aswell, and the countless number of 12yo junkies running around in the old ussr. Naturally the media makes thing seem like its the end of the world, and its hard to even understand whats coming out of russia,. as you can't really listen to the videos cause its all in russian. All I know is from waht I see and what I hear from people out of russia.

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I've been telling people about this stuff for a while. I don't know if anyone has seen the video of the doctors operating on this russian lady who was ridiculously skinny and perhaps a prostitute.


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I wonder if this is also from "crocodile"?

Maggots on leg




Maggots have been used for a long time to clean wounds and eat dead flesh.





yeah I actually just say that the other day, she has that hole in her upper thigh, and she sits there moaning and saying momma in russian, then the camera pans up and all the skin on her arm is completely gone, and her bone is showing. lol idk who'd pay to have sex with that.


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Is there other ways of doing "crocodile" other than shooting it?  I'm sure you would still get the impurities ether way, but I'm just wondering.






whether or not desomorphine is even what they are producing using the methods they use is up for question, some argue whether or not they are even producing desomorphine and not just random codeines and other random shit. This comes from the same people who shoot up eye drops when they have no other drugs, and mix there H with nasal spray cause they think it enhances something. :facepalm:


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: snoot]
    #13660319 - 12/20/10 10:58 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

why would you shoot eyedrops?  I don't even understand that pharmacologically


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: snoot]
    #13660366 - 12/20/10 11:13 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Lol... Oh no! Not here in America! It's only those crazy/poor/nasty Russians.

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    #13660394 - 12/20/10 11:22 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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lol idk man, people are strange, they used to spike there H with eyedrops and then it just evolved into shooting eyedrops when they had no H. They think weird shit enhances the H high.


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: snoot]
    #13660398 - 12/20/10 11:23 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

if its a vasodilator it might mamke it kick in quicker?


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    #13660401 - 12/20/10 11:24 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I reccomend cannabis,
but maybe they dont have it there.
Or maybe they cant pay it.

But still im asking myself,what on earth is so sweet to take the risk that your body parts fall off your body?



Ironic considering that Russian hemp used to be the finest you could possibly get.


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: Fungal-one]
    #13660481 - 12/20/10 11:49 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Fucking crazy Russians.


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: gzuf]
    #13660764 - 12/20/10 01:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

is anybody still in touch with the russian shroomery?

i tried going through it to find some related pics or gremlins but it's hard you know.... all russian and everything.

surely our comrads could help us make sense of this


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    #13660778 - 12/20/10 01:13 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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is anybody still in touch with the russian shroomery?

i tried going through it to find some related pics or gremlins but it's hard you know.... all russian and everything.

surely our comrads could help us make sense of this


edit: this was new to me



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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: Acaterpillar] * 2
    #13660817 - 12/20/10 01:26 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

there is a russian shroomery?


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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: snoot]
    #13660833 - 12/20/10 01:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

In soviet russia....nevermind.


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    #13660836 - 12/20/10 01:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: dynomite]
    #13661632 - 12/20/10 04:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, you must wait to have your post approved before it appears on the board :rofldrunk:

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    #13661693 - 12/20/10 04:42 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i want some. :ahahaha:
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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
    #13664198 - 12/21/10 03:53 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Thats the first website in russian language i ever see with an''.nl''domain.

shroomery.nl

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Re: 'crocodile' (desomorphine)new russian street drug!WARNING GRAPHIC! [Re: snoot]
    #13664344 - 12/21/10 06:21 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I guess they call it "crocodile" because it leaves you looking like you were attacked by one. I'm thinking the guy who got his leg sawed off maybe had a large supply of it and kept taking it every time he came down because he felt so horrible, because his body was rotting away, etc., until he was nearly gone altogether. Now that's what I call a vicious cycle. Truly horrible.

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    #13665923 - 12/21/10 01:33 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I guess they call it "crocodile" because it leaves you looking like you were attacked by one. I'm thinking the guy who got his leg sawed off maybe had a large supply of it and kept taking it every time he came down because he felt so horrible, because his body was rotting away, etc., until he was nearly gone altogether. Now that's what I call a vicious cycle. Truly horrible.





watch some of those other videos, they live in houses where they have those bubble packs all over the place a foot deep, in iodine/red phos bottles.


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    #13665943 - 12/21/10 01:38 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Some of the intermediate compounds kinda look like the word crocodile too.


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    #13665971 - 12/21/10 01:44 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)



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    #13666312 - 12/21/10 03:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

popped my amputation video cherry :whoa:


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    #13671374 - 12/22/10 03:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

:freshwtf:  o_o is the high worth it?

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    #13671676 - 12/22/10 04:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I am so disgusted by this. What kind of loser do you have to be to do crocodile?


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    #13672863 - 12/22/10 08:33 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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:freshwtf:  o_o is the high worth it?



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I am so disgusted by this. What kind of loser do you have to be to do crocodile?





Both of you could stand some brushing-up on just what opiate addiction does to a person.


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    #13673821 - 12/22/10 11:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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:freshwtf:  o_o is the high worth it?



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I am so disgusted by this. What kind of loser do you have to be to do crocodile?





Both of you could stand some brushing-up on just what opiate addiction does to a person.






yeah its really easy to sit and say WTF@! but addiction is a hell of a thing, and I think we can all agree people will do incredibly destructive things to get high. This being a great example.


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:freshwtf:  o_o is the high worth it?



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I am so disgusted by this. What kind of loser do you have to be to do crocodile?





Both of you could stand some brushing-up on just what opiate addiction does to a person.



I understand why you would say this and your right, I am being judgmental but this is rather extreme.

I understand how destructive addiction is but can your really blame me for saying how horrid it is to do a drug you KNOW will kill you and basically rots your skin?

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    #13673872 - 12/22/10 11:57 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I reccomend cannabis,
but maybe they dont have it there.
Or maybe they cant pay it.

But still im asking myself,what on earth is so sweet to take the risk that your body parts fall off your body?



Ironic considering that Russian hemp used to be the finest you could possibly get.



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:freshwtf:  o_o is the high worth it?



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I am so disgusted by this. What kind of loser do you have to be to do crocodile?





Both of you could stand some brushing-up on just what opiate addiction does to a person.



I understand why you would say this and your right, I am being judgmental but this is rather extreme.

I understand how destructive addiction is but can your really blame me for saying how horrid it is to do a drug you KNOW will kill you and basically rots your skin?

maybe you too are being a little judgmental :shrug:





lol, i was just askin' to know. Besides, i think the people that try this might be getting it because the dealers lie, and try to push it off as something else? idk..

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    #13674032 - 12/23/10 12:50 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

people dont deal 'crocodile' its made from shit you buy at the pharmacy, and they cook it themselevs, using a method that is normally used for making meth. I think what is going on here is people are givin this idea and recipe and they aren't made fully aware of what they are actually shooting up, nor of what the consequences and repercussions are. I think we can fully judge, if people keep doing this in a couple years, after they see what is happening to there friends. once you see peoples legs rott off and there face explode, then if they keep doing it then we can judge and point fingers. But as it would seem right now, it just doesnt appear they know at all what they fuck they are doing, I could be wrong, I'm assuming alot here. But one would could only conclude that if they knew forthright what they were doing before hand I think alot of them would be reluctant to proceed. who knows, ....  they are after all, ... russian. :blindfury:


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    #13674562 - 12/23/10 06:18 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I still don't see that much of a difference between putting this shit into your veins and black tar.  They are both fucking dog awful, but at least this shit probably isn't that bad if you do the proper extraction.


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    #13674786 - 12/23/10 08:14 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

They must legalize canabbis and shrooms there in russia.

It saves the citizens lots of problems with glue sniffers and desomorphine shooters.

No need for sniffing or shooting chemicals if they have quality cannabis and shrooms.
That are my 2cents

1 thing,i would not survive in that country...
I need my skunk and shrooms daily and i dont speak russian,
i always found russia as an ghostly union....
Not the country but the russian goverment that made the country like that.


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    #13674814 - 12/23/10 08:25 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

russian gov't? you mean the russian mafia? I can't iamgine them legalizing any drug, they wont even consider using Suboxone for rehab.


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    #13674821 - 12/23/10 08:31 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

holy fuck.


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They must legalize canabbis and shrooms there in russia.

It saves the citizens lots of problems with glue sniffers and desomorphine shooters.

No need for sniffing or shooting chemicals if they have quality cannabis and shrooms.
That are my 2cents

1 thing,i would not survive in that country...
I need my skunk and shrooms daily and i dont speak russian,
i always found russia as an ghostly union....
Not the country but the russian goverment that made the country like that.



Weed and mushrooms really being legal really wouldn't solve anything.  Opiates do something totally different than mushrooms and weed.


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I still don't see that much of a difference between putting this shit into your veins and black tar.  They are both fucking dog awful, but at least this shit probably isn't that bad if you do the proper extraction.



really? you dont see the difference in black tar and the Croc? maybe you skipped past the pix and the video.


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    #13676371 - 12/23/10 04:48 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BLACK+TAR+HEROIN+USERS+HIT+BY+%60FLESH-EATING%27-TYPE+DISEASE.-a083949549

I wouldn't inject either black tar or any crudely extracted drug for that matter.  Don't think there aren't people out there that had to have amputated limbs because of shooting black tar heroin.  You don't know how often using this drug leads to amputation, it might be quite rare.


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