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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: Ima Trooper] * 1
    #13598164 - 12/07/10 10:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

dont worry the alky will kill all the bacteria

go for it! :thumbup:

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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: Da2ra]
    #13598340 - 12/07/10 10:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Whiskey has 20-30% more alcohol than vodka. Also, I'm only going to be shooting less than ONE MILLILITER (the size of the syringe) of vodka.



I have some whisky. It has 37% alcohol. I have some vodka. It has 50% alcohol. I have some other vodka. It has 37.5% alcohol. But please don't inject yourself with alcohol (or maybe do, I don't actually give a shit.)

To stretch your weed do this:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12208794#12208794

Sublingual dosing FTW!


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: Mr E Guest]
    #13598371 - 12/07/10 10:56 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA




Jesus fucking Cristos.


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: Odum]
    #13598883 - 12/08/10 12:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Odum said:
dont worry the alky will kill all the bacteria

go for it! :thumbup:




:syringe:  :billymaythumbup:


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: Da2ra]
    #13633234 - 12/14/10 08:19 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

But WHY does everyone think this is a crazy idea, when black tar heroin, a fuckin' crude black resiny substance is commonly injected? The only difference between marijuana and black tar is the heroin inside the resin is highly water soluble whereas cannabinoids aren't water soluble. But they're alcohol soluble. Soak that shit in alcohol and inject it. What's the big deal? The only reason I didn't do it a week and a half ago when I had weed was because I witnessed my friend break it up with his unwashed hands. Next time I get weed I'm doing it.

But please help me understand why people think this is so crazy.


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: Da2ra]
    #13633261 - 12/14/10 08:26 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Please dont, please just get this thought out of your head.



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Ethanol in its usual form generally is not injected and can be very damaging by most routes of injection




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_injection


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: Da2ra] * 1
    #13633511 - 12/14/10 09:14 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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superhigh said:
Whiskey has 20-30% more alcohol than vodka. Also, I'm only going to be shooting less than ONE MILLILITER (the size of the syringe) of vodka.




What are you talking about? Whiskey and all other alcohols (vodka included) have proof labels that correspond to their alcohol percentage.


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: CaptainAhab] * 1
    #13633656 - 12/14/10 09:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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. Next time I get weed I'm doing it.



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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: BlueJayWay] * 1
    #13633664 - 12/14/10 09:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This moron is going to be the first actual death from marijuana and is going to be a  massive glaring black mark on the decriminalization of marijuana for a long long time.


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: CaptainAhab]
    #13633676 - 12/14/10 09:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

its not crazy. do it. just do us a favor and give a friend your sn and password on here because if you die, we will want closure on situation.

seriously though, just do your research. if you thoroughly research it, think it will work, and think its safe, then go for it. if you have reasonable doubts that its not safe, dont do it. i dont think anyone here has tried this, so our opinions are just anecdotal. be smart about it and figure it out for yourself.

just a thought; your thinking of doing an alcohol extraction and shooting it up right? since the majority of the concerns presented here seem to be about injecting alcohol, perhaps you could look into doing that extraction, letting the alcohol evaporate, mixing the remainder into saline, and inject that. but i think you would need to do more than that, because the cannabinoids need heat to become more active, i believe. perhaps thats another pitfall in your plan, that thc and the like need heat to become active in the human body. thats why we cant just eat or insufflate cannabis (or inject). idk, just thinking out loud, so to speak.


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: zombi]
    #13633765 - 12/14/10 10:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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just a thought; your thinking of doing an alcohol extraction and shooting it up right? since the majority of the concerns presented here seem to be about injecting alcohol, perhaps you could look into doing that extraction, letting the alcohol evaporate, mixing the remainder into saline, and inject that. but i think you would need to do more than that, because the cannabinoids need heat to become more active




Marijuana does not need to be activated by heat. The THC -- and perhaps other cannabinoids -- is bound to a carboxyl group in freshly harvested marijuana. This gives it a poor bioavailability. Thoroughly drying marijuana decarboxylates it. Most weed sold isn't dried to the maximum degree, thus most weed isn't completely bioavailable. Burning weed instantly decarboxylates it. So, no, high levels of heat aren't necessary to "activate" weed. In fact, desiccant in a dark cold room is sufficient.

The whole point of putting marijuana in alcohol is to get it into solution. Evaporating the alcohol would take it out of solution. And then you'd have hash and it would be like chucking hash into water. And you'd be injecting a combo of oily resin and water. I'm not saying it's not possible. I even posted a report of someone injecting Marinol, which is THC mixed in sesame oil. However, I'm more comfortable with dissolving in alcohol.


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: Da2ra]
    #13633826 - 12/14/10 10:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

whatever. heat isnt be necessary, but it potentiates it. if you think its a good idea, then do it already.


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: zombi]
    #13633842 - 12/14/10 10:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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zombi said:
whatever. heat isnt be necessary, but it potentiates it. if you think its a good idea, then do it already.




Drying it potentiates it, heat being one way to dry it.

I can't afford weed right now.


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: zombi]
    #13633845 - 12/14/10 10:12 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

which the news for headlines of someone being hospitalized cause of marijuana use.


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: Enigma of Ankou]
    #13634016 - 12/14/10 10:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

It isn't the safest procedure to carry out at home but it has been done before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intravenous_Marijuana_Syndrome

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1306836/pdf/westjmed00155-0096.pdf/?tool=pmcentrez

Note the adverse effects were attributed to unknown variables as injecting of cannabanoids under controlled laboratory conditions showed no adverse effects.

This reporter in a BBC documentary received intravenous THC as well as intravenous cananbanoids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2cAFRAX3Gs

I would STRONGLY advise against injecting ethanol no matter how small the amount. Use sterile needles, swab the skin with alcohol, inject a sterile solution, and start low maybe 1/20th or even less of the smoking/oral dose equivalent.


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: zombi] * 1
    #13634027 - 12/14/10 10:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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zombi said:
whatever. heat isnt be necessary, but it potentiates it. if you think its a good idea, then do it already.



beyond decarboxylation, heat can only destroy it.

Superhigh, I think the biggest concern is the fact that if you inject alcohol you are likely to overdose on it. I haven't done all the research, so if you have and you think its cool, then go for it. I'm actually surprised the bump wasn't a trip report.


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Re: Soaking marijuana in alcohol and injecting it [Re: crazyboy25]
    #13634055 - 12/14/10 10:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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It isn't the safest procedure to carry out at home but it has been done before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intravenous_Marijuana_Syndrome

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1306836/pdf/westjmed00155-0096.pdf/?tool=pmcentrez

Note the adverse effects were attributed to unknown variables




I'm aware of that report. The guy used marijuana tea, and he filtered with cotton. Cotton is known to cause "cotton fever" due to a bacteria. He probably used a shitload of cotton.

Here's a report of someone who did it several times and it worked well each time. He doesn't provide trip reports for each time, though. It's a retrospective: https://tokecity.com/forums/showthread.php4?t=6775

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