Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Bridgetown Botanicals Bridgetown Botanicals, CBD Capsules   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds, Bulk Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
InvisibleveggieM

Registered: 07/25/04
Posts: 17,504
Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008
    #13589545 - 12/06/10 09:26 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008
December 6, 2010 - Weekly Standard

Gary Johnson, the former New Mexico governor and a likely 2012 Republican presidential candidate, hasn’t been shy about his support for marijuana legalization or his personal use of the drug during his younger days. “I never exhaled,” he joked in a recent interview with The New Republic. But in an interview with THE WEEKLY STANDARD, Johnson admitted publicly for the first time that he smoked marijuana more recently—from 2005 to 2008—for medicinal purposes, he says.

“It’s not anything I volunteer, but you’re the only person that actually asked about it,” says Johnson, who governed New Mexico from 1994 to 2002. “But for luck, I guess, I wasn’t arrested.” Although smoking marijuana for medicinal purposes was illegal in New Mexico until 2007, Johnson says he needed the drug following a 2005 paragliding accident in Hawaii. His sails got caught in a tree, he stalled—and fell about fifty feet straight down to the ground, he says. Johnson suffered multiple bone fractures, including a burst fracture to his T12 vertebrae. “In my human experience, it’s the worst pain I’ve ever felt.”

“Rather than using painkillers, which I have used on occasion before, I did smoke pot, as a result of having broken my back, blowing out both of my knees, breaking ribs, really taking about three years to recover,” Johnson says. He explains that painkillers had once caused him to suffer nasty side effects and the pain of withdrawing from the pills was unbearable. So, Johnson says, in 2005 "someone" who cared for him gave him marijuana to deal with the pain.

For a typical presidential candidate, admitting to illegally smoking marijuana just a few years ago would be badly damaging. But Gary Johnson isn’t a typical candidate. He’s a libertarian prophet crying out for the Republican Party to “get back to the religion of the pocketbook,” and spreading his message takes precedence over appealing to Republican primary voters. His personal marijuana story may even help him spread the word. And marijuana legalization may, in fact, be a much easier sell to Republican primary voters than Johnson’s positions on national security, foreign policy, and social policy.

Take, for example, Johnson’s support for big defense cuts. After pointing out that the United States accounts for half of worldwide spending on defense, Johnson suggests the defense budget might need to be slashed by as much as 44 to 90 percent from current levels. “If you just based it on population alone, we should be spending 5 [percent],” he says. “If you looked at a 23 percent reduction in government spending, which would just balance revenues with expenditures, if you look at what defense would then have to go to, 50 cents of worldwide spending would go to—I’m doing the math here in my head—what? 28 cents?”

Is Johnson saying that the United States defense budget should be cut in half?

“I don’t want to make that kind of statement because I somehow think it would make me appear irresponsible,” Johnson says. “And I don’t want to be irresponsible regarding this. I just have this sense that we’re just spending way too much.”

A dove in the mold of 2008 Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, Johnson says, “I don't think that we should be in Iraq or Afghanistan.” But the extent of his non-interventionism isn’t quite clear. On one hand, he isn’t even sure if U.S. troops should have been stationed in Europe to confront the Soviets following World War II. “I don't think I have the expertise to be able to say that it was good or bad, it just seems to me that today, it doesn’t really seem warranted,” he says. Johnson also says Iran’s nuclear program isn’t a threat to the United States because the principle of “mutually assured destruction” would keep the Iranians from attacking.

On the other hand, Johnson is open, in principle, to waging humanitarian wars. “If there’s a clear genocide somewhere, don’t we really want to positively impact that kind of a situation?” he says. “Isn’t that what we’re all about? Isn’t that what we’ve always been about? But just this notion of nation building—I think the current policy is making us more enemies than more friends.”

In one notable break from Ron Paul’s foreign policy, Johnson offers rhetorical support for Israel. “I think that we really do have a vested interest in Israel and that we shouldn’t walk away from that interest,” he says. Johnson also puts distance between himself and the 9/11 Truthers, who found a friendly home in the Ron Paul campaign. “Based on what I know,” Johnson says, “no, I don’t think the 9/11 report should be reopened, based on my knowledge.”

While Johnson’s executive experience, along with his inclination to spurn the fringe elements that were attracted to the 2008 Paul campaign, could help him emerge as a more appealing candidate than Paul, his positions on social issues—which are more in line with Rudy Giuliani—could also limit his popularity in the Republican primaries.

In principle, Johnson thinks abortion should be legal in most cases. “I support a woman’s right to choose [abortion] up until viability of the fetus,” he says. Why does viability endow human beings with the right to life? “I don’t personally have a sense that life starts at conception,” Johnson answers intuitively. “I don’t personally have that sense.”

But as a matter of law, Johnson thinks Roe v. Wade should be overturned. “It should be a states issue to begin with,” he says. “The criteria for a Supreme Court justice would be that those justices rule on the original intent of the constitution. Given that, it’s my understanding that that justice would overturn Roe v. Wade.”

Does Johnson think there’s a constitutional right to same-sex marriage? “I don’t see it,” he says, “but I do support gay unions. I think the government should be out of the marriage business and leave marriage to the churches.”

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2859558484
Growery is Better
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/10/06
Posts: 8,752
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: veggie]
    #13589580 - 12/06/10 09:39 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Johnson suggests the defense budget might need to be slashed by as much as 44 to 90 percent from current levels.





good luck with that, the generals and contractors have a lot pull in all parts of our government.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlan RockefellerM
Mycologist
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 48,364
Last seen: 14 hours, 40 minutes
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: veggie]
    #13589619 - 12/06/10 09:50 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I hope I get a chance to vote for this guy.  Slashing the military budget is not easy but someone needs to do it.  The military squanders far too much of our tax money.

In my opinion the money spent on the military would be put to better use if it was burned to heat houses.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2859558484
Growery is Better
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/10/06
Posts: 8,752
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #13589635 - 12/06/10 09:55 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

agreed. The last 50 years have seen an insane increase in military spending and war profiteering. Its not a sustainable course for our country. Didnt work for Rome either.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAdamist
ℚṲℰϟ✞ЇѺℵ ℛ∃Åʟḯ†У
Male User Gallery

Registered: 11/23/01
Posts: 10,211
Loc: Bloomington, IN
Last seen: 9 years, 1 month
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: 2859558484]
    #13589645 - 12/06/10 09:57 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

This guy has the right idea.


--------------------
:heartpump: { { { ṧ◎ηḯ¢ αʟ¢ℌ℮мƴ } } } :heartpump:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineguest1
Mycena
 User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 05/25/09
Posts: 852
Last seen: 1 year, 4 months
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: Adamist]
    #13589666 - 12/06/10 10:01 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

:awesomenod: :thumbup:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineJoe Joe
2nd Level Meditator


Registered: 10/29/10
Posts: 190
Loc: Vortex #4
Last seen: 12 years, 9 months
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: guest1]
    #13590393 - 12/06/10 12:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

This money would be much better spent on a wide variety of things.  One the first that comes to my mind is public schools.

Too bad though.  Mr. Johnson doesn't have a snowball's chance of getting the nod from the convention.  If he was serious about running you would think he would know better than to completely sabotage his chances by saying things like this now.

We need a truly crafty individual who will tow the party line up until they are the party candidate - AND THEN start saying what they really believe.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineSgtFloyd
Stranger
 User Gallery

Registered: 07/05/09
Posts: 34
Last seen: 12 years, 1 month
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: guest1]
    #13590423 - 12/06/10 12:59 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Johnson in 2012. He seems like he would bring a real common sense approach to the job.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRun
Questioning my existance
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 488
Last seen: 10 years, 6 months
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: Joe Joe]
    #13590430 - 12/06/10 12:59 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

GL


--------------------
You, me, this point in existence is undeniably so unique, we take everything for granite ,life , comprehension, feelings, thought, so accustomed to understanding that we've lost the meaning of fully understanding who we are..... we are the extra terrestrial, we are the unknown, we are the mystical...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLongStrangeTrip
Deadhead


Registered: 09/19/09
Posts: 5,382
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: Run]
    #13590501 - 12/06/10 01:16 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I am not saying that I would go out and vote for the guy, but wow what a different perspective from a politician.

To me, someone like Gary Johnson is a sign that cannabis laws can change in the USA. He is smart, politically, for doing this. Numbers have never been higher, around the country, when it comes to support for legalization, and numbers are much much higher for medical cannabis. He is the first active politician I have heard be so frank about this subject, and he has been for years. A potential presidential bid just makes these things seem much more meaningful. More will come after him.


--------------------
Nothing I say or do is factual; every single thing I write is a work of fiction. Got no idea what I'm talking about here~

"Once in awhile, you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right"~  (Grateful Dead)

"o puer, qui omnia nomini debes"; "You, boy, who owe's everything to a name"~ Mark Anthony

"Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum."; "Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system."~ Cicero


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGreen_T
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/02/08
Posts: 4,042
Loc: UK Flag
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #13590596 - 12/06/10 01:34 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The more I hear about this guy, the more I like him

Quote:

Does Johnson think there’s a constitutional right to same-sex marriage? “I don’t see it,” he says, “but I do support gay unions. I think the government should be out of the marriage business and leave marriage to the churches.”




:thumbup:

Quote:

On the other hand, Johnson is open, in principle, to waging humanitarian wars. “If there’s a clear genocide somewhere, don’t we really want to positively impact that kind of a situation?” he says. “Isn’t that what we’re all about? Isn’t that what we’ve always been about? But just this notion of nation building—I think the current policy is making us more enemies than more friends.”




What a UN army should be used for.


--------------------

"I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man" - Thomas Jefferson

Legalize Meth | Drug War Victims

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineOdd_Nonposter
Unrecognizable
Male


Registered: 06/26/10
Posts: 430
Loc: Ohio Flag
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #13590832 - 12/06/10 02:17 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'm kinda liking this guy, just from what I'm seeing here.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCarnivalBarker
wizard
Male

Registered: 04/19/10
Posts: 2,668
Last seen: 11 years, 5 months
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
    #13590898 - 12/06/10 02:27 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Wow. I know who to look out for in 2014. It's a shame there's no way he'll get elected. Most of his thoughts make too much sense. Get the government out of marriage? Leave religious ceremonies to the churches? Legalize pot? Quit building puppet governments?
:awesome:

Edited by CarnivalBarker (12/06/10 02:27 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleByrain


Registered: 01/07/10
Posts: 9,664
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #13591001 - 12/06/10 02:48 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:Slashing the military budget is not easy but someone needs to do it.




As much as I agree, would a president actually have the power to do such a thing?  The military certainly doesn't fuck around and are in a ideal position to pressure higher ups into doing their bidding.  Not to mention other shadier organizations that would likely involve themselves in this scenario.  Power is really precious to some people, I don't think many will give it up before fighting for it with everything they got.  And as long as their games are played (Voting and submitting), I feel they will be like the house in a casino, always with the upper hand.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinegoldennic007
Balanced
Male User Gallery

Registered: 07/28/09
Posts: 440
Loc: Ideal realitY
Last seen: 7 years, 3 months
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: CarnivalBarker]
    #13591003 - 12/06/10 02:48 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

the fact that he was willing to consume an illicit drug to quell physical suffering, displays to me a good sense of a person/people knowing whats better for themself rather than the damn gov't.

i like this guy. :strokebeard:


--------------------
Amsterdam Honeymoon:rave:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehockeyplyr1057
Music Lover
Male


Registered: 03/20/07
Posts: 573
Last seen: 9 years, 4 months
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: goldennic007]
    #13591061 - 12/06/10 03:00 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

goldennic007 said:
the fact that he was willing to consume an illicit drug to quell physical suffering, displays to me a good sense of a person/people knowing whats better for themself rather than the damn gov't.

i like this guy. :strokebeard:




:thumbup::thumbup:


--------------------
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. -Gandalf

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinefapjack
Title
 User Gallery


Registered: 07/26/07
Posts: 16,574
Loc: Central New Jersey
Last seen: 4 years, 1 month
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: veggie] * 1
    #13591153 - 12/06/10 03:15 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'd rather vote for Ron Paul, and I don't think either one will win.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLongStrangeTrip
Deadhead


Registered: 09/19/09
Posts: 5,382
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: Byrain]
    #13591448 - 12/06/10 04:10 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Byrain said:
Quote:

Alan Rockefeller said:Slashing the military budget is not easy but someone needs to do it.




As much as I agree, would a president actually have the power to do such a thing?  The military certainly doesn't fuck around and are in a ideal position to pressure higher ups into doing their bidding.  Not to mention other shadier organizations that would likely involve themselves in this scenario.  Power is really precious to some people, I don't think many will give it up before fighting for it with everything they got.  And as long as their games are played (Voting and submitting), I feel they will be like the house in a casino, always with the upper hand.




Ever heard anyone refer to the president as "commander and cheif"? Yea he is technically as high as it goes in the US military... the DoD (department of defense) and the federal executive department of war also make "desicions". Each branch of the army itself, aka U.S. Army, Marine corps, ect., do their own descion manking, but under the guise of the 3 stated powers that be; the president being the one whom is at the top.

But you can bet your ass he has power. If Obama had the balls he could pull all troops out of the middle east and  :thebird: the generals.

Some one correct me if I am wrong.


--------------------
Nothing I say or do is factual; every single thing I write is a work of fiction. Got no idea what I'm talking about here~

"Once in awhile, you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right"~  (Grateful Dead)

"o puer, qui omnia nomini debes"; "You, boy, who owe's everything to a name"~ Mark Anthony

"Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum."; "Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system."~ Cicero


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineskatealex2
////////////////
 User Gallery


Registered: 07/04/08
Posts: 18,699
Last seen: 6 months, 10 days
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #13591535 - 12/06/10 04:29 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

This guy has my vote if he runs.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleJesusGoneRogue
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/24/10
Posts: 9,495
Re: Gov. Gary Johnson: I Smoked Marijuana from 2005 to 2008 [Re: skatealex2]
    #13591595 - 12/06/10 04:42 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

skatealex2 said:
This guy has my vote if he runs.


:bigyesnod:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Bridgetown Botanicals Bridgetown Botanicals, CBD Capsules   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds, Bulk Cannabis Seeds


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* The Drug War Goes Up in Smoke (lengthy but worthwhile read) Demiurge 5,403 2 08/14/03 06:17 AM
by TheHobbit
* MARYLAND GOV. EHRLICH SIGNS MARIJUANA LAW motamanM 5,290 3 05/27/03 06:27 AM
by Seuss
* Mom lets 18-month old smoke pot veggieM 4,107 10 08/04/05 10:06 PM
by LeftyBurnz
* Britain Poised to Approve Medicine Derived From Marijuana AnnoA 2,806 6 01/29/04 04:16 AM
by zeta
* The Next Front in the Marijuana Battle ChiefThunderbong 3,231 4 07/05/04 10:07 AM
by ChiefThunderbong
* Health Canada set to release users' manual for marijuana motamanM 2,614 1 07/20/03 05:36 PM
by Hans_Moleman
* Former Dallas Cowboy Lauds His 20 Year Marijuana Use socratesmind 4,669 4 03/03/03 11:26 PM
by rhizo
* Medical marijuana on ballots, Detroit, Ann Arbor. Randolph_Carter 3,124 6 02/06/07 01:54 PM
by consensio3

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: motaman, veggie, Alan Rockefeller, Mostly_Harmless
5,292 topic views. 1 members, 4 guests and 2 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.032 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 15 queries.