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 Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13542879 - 11/26/10 03:47 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#13543290 - 11/26/10 08:20 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Discretion is the better part of valor.
Anyway, moving right along.......
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13543300 - 11/26/10 08:24 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Gonna' inoculate a few 500ML jars with the tested LC tonight. Will become trays in about 5 months time. 
I'm thankful for faster growing species at this point. 
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: nexus1946]
#13543630 - 11/26/10 10:22 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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How long did it take to make an LC with these buggers? From agar?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13545909 - 11/26/10 09:11 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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andymc said:
How long did it take to make an LC with these buggers? From agar?
The first spores I received came in syringes and have proved to be clean in both LC and on agar.
The LC took a couple of months in the incubator.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Pinback]
#13550191 - 11/27/10 07:59 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I have printed P. semilanceata several times at room temperature, for me it works just fine.
Me too. I can see where they'd prefer to print in the cold. Seems like having the fresh specimens with good moisture and releasing spores was key, though.
Peace
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: PrimalSoup]
#13562027 - 11/30/10 09:05 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Well the lower temps for printing didn't help much. Out of about 200 prints I got a small handful of dark ones.. Roughly 20 or so, atleast it's something to play with though
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: CharlieD123]
#13562065 - 11/30/10 09:12 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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CharlieD123 said:
Well the lower temps for printing didn't help much. Out of about 200 prints I got a small handful of dark ones.. Roughly 20 or so, atleast it's something to play with though
Hey, that's better than nothing! 
Now go get the agar ready and pour some dishes!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13566552 - 12/01/10 04:28 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Mr E Guest said:
I'm giving it a go with the cardboard cloning tek. A couple of dozen 2" cardboard squares moistened with rainwater and with about 10 stem stubs in the corrugated grooves of each one. Present working conditions dictate against using agar. I'll post any developments.
I have several lib prints available... Also, I printed a couple of P. strictipes the other day.
you have pics of these strictipes? are they confirmed or just suspected?
Just suspected - I'll admit, since I wrote this, I've read about the semilanceata variant lacking a papillate umbo (nipple). I've kept specimens but my microscope isn't currently up to the job of confirming anything much!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
#13571545 - 12/02/10 01:03 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Cant wait to try!
Thanks 13shrooms!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
#13581150 - 12/04/10 09:46 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Mr E Guest said:
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Mr E Guest said:
I'm giving it a go with the cardboard cloning tek. A couple of dozen 2" cardboard squares moistened with rainwater and with about 10 stem stubs in the corrugated grooves of each one. Present working conditions dictate against using agar. I'll post any developments.
I have several lib prints available... Also, I printed a couple of P. strictipes the other day.
you have pics of these strictipes? are they confirmed or just suspected?
Just suspected - I'll admit, since I wrote this, I've read about the semilanceata variant lacking a papillate umbo (nipple). I've kept specimens but my microscope isn't currently up to the job of confirming anything much!
ya its really immposible IMO to tell them apart macroscopicly. i am sure weve all found some over the years but can you really send every variant out for microscopic analysis! if i had a good microscope, then ya i would definetly start .i want to crack the strictipes case one day. my mushroom club is thinking about purchasing a good one.you know i will have it signed out more than anybody!!
whats funny, not sure if you follow the hunting forum, is that a confirmed P strictipes was found in arizona this year. and it wasnt growing from grass, but right off of wood!!! stamets usually says its a grass land species but one time he says that its a form bridging the gapp between the wood loving P pelliculosa and the grass loving P semilanceata. so strictipes can live in both!!! its fucked , if its such a substrate slut like P stuntzii, why dont we see them more often?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13584714 - 12/05/10 06:35 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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ya its really immposible IMO to tell them apart macroscopicly. i am sure weve all found some over the years but can you really send every variant out for microscopic analysis! if i had a good microscope, then ya i would definetly start .i want to crack the strictipes case one day. my mushroom club is thinking about purchasing a good one.you know i will have it signed out more than anybody!!
whats funny, not sure if you follow the hunting forum, is that a confirmed P strictipes was found in arizona this year. and it wasnt growing from grass, but right off of wood!!! stamets usually says its a grass land species but one time he says that its a form bridging the gapp between the wood loving P pelliculosa and the grass loving P semilanceata. so strictipes can live in both!!! its fucked , if its such a substrate slut like P stuntzii, why dont we see them more often?
Well, obviously I don't know about the genetics of that Arizona strictipes, nor my own UK prints (strictipes or otherwise), but this is interesting enough to get me thinking about growing out some of these aforementioned spores on agar and seeing if they'll take to a wood-based substrate. I'll try looking at them through my dodgy salvaged microscope first to avoid wasting time.
Does anyone in the UK with a flowhood want to make friends with me?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
#13593875 - 12/06/10 10:46 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#13594411 - 12/07/10 02:55 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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13shrooms said:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13585983#13585983
successful Lib grow 
Do those look like liberty caps to anybody? With that thick stipe, that cap colour and shape, etc? It looks like a completely different species to me.
Very cool if that's what they are -- but boy, do cultivated libs look different from their wild siblings.
I do remember the pictures of Workman's pins weren't particularly lib-looking..
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13595145 - 12/07/10 09:33 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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B.C. ufo LIBs is what they were calling them.
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: 13shrooms]
#13597471 - 12/07/10 05:23 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Don't look like libs at all. It's crazy that they look so drastically different from wild specimens, no nipple on any of them, and the strange fanned out caps with little white skirts, and thick stipe.. Not normal characteristics of mature specimens at all, but none the less impressive!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: andymc]
#13597753 - 12/07/10 06:21 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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andymc said:
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13shrooms said:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13585983#13585983
successful Lib grow
Do those look like liberty caps to anybody? With that thick stipe, that cap colour and shape, etc? It looks like a completely different species to me.
Very cool if that's what they are -- but boy, do cultivated libs look different from their wild siblings.
I do remember the pictures of Workman's pins weren't particularly lib-looking..
 Look like libs to me. And I've seen a lot of libs in my time (admittedly in the wild but still...) Comparable to Workman's in appearance. Very nice!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: Mr E Guest]
#13599707 - 12/08/10 12:31 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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they dont look like libs to me,i been picking em for 20 years, even the pictures in his post of the wild ones, they dont look anything like em?
Stems far too thick, and heads dont look right stil tho, ,they look tasty and its a sweet grow, maybe uts hte indoor conditions made em look strange?
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: FractalXplora]
#13610557 - 12/09/10 10:58 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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well i can guarantee they are P semilanceata. i picked these personally and sent them to captain._even in the wild they are ALL flat heads and totally not atypical libs. i was sure i had something different in the bag when i had these last year!! but i sent off the spores to workman and he conclude 99% sure it was P semilanceata.i was very surprised and disapointed.
love the name "BC ufo libs" btw!!
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Re: "Indoor Liberty Caps Community Tek" (work in progress) [Re: psylosymonreturns]
#13611332 - 12/10/10 06:05 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Man thats mad I honestly would see those in a field and not glance twice, might even accidentally step on them. Crazy how vastly their characteristics can vary!
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