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 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! 
#13351590 - 10/18/10 08:43 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Well my last trip was 21.2 grams fresh(I puked) so this time I went with my dry shroomies. About 4pm yesterday I measured out 3 dried grams of Mazatapec just flushed last week. I grabbed a glass of apple cider broke the dried up shrooms with my incisors then took just enough of a gulp of apple cider to swallow them down.
My girlfriend and her daughter went out grocery shopping so I figured that by the time they got back that I would be at a comfortable level. Boy, was I wrong.
About 20 minutes after ingesting said shrooms. I decided that I wasn't feeling it and I was going to eat at least another gram, but at the last second I decided that I would just wait a little longer. Another 10 minutes goes by and I'm starting to feel the body high coming on but I wasn't sure if it was the shrooms or the cannabis I was vaping. I was feeling antsy so I went outside with my dog.
It took about an hour and a half for it to really set in that I was tripping balls. Colors had been enhanced but for the first time the ground was moving it was like I was on a boat the ground kept moving back and forth but only when I wasn't looking at it. I started seeing patterns in everything, very tribal looking(mezo-american). If I looked long enough at the patterns I could see faces of renaissance style angels, cherubs, and royalty but more like playing card queens, I started feeling a little nauseous so I moved back in the house where some movie was on. I say some movie because I honestly couldn't tell you what it was. If you remember the scene in true lies when he was given the sodium pentathol it was more or less like that. Time was moving backwards. I was trying to follow the movie but it was like listening to it in reverse the screen was stuttering, I was hearing echos over and over again and the speech was more like a foreign language but I KNOW it was english.
I thought it was time to go back outside so I grabbed my dog and we went out back to watch the sunset. I remember going off in my own little world I started slipping in and out of consciousness. Life was moving in stop motion. I saw my dog in the woods and unable to speak I wanted her to be with me. Without calling her she was back at my side in what seemed an instant. I found it amazing that she could know I needed her. I went off into space for a little bit longer and then decided to go back inside because the world was starting to disappear.
I tried to make it too the house but as I was on the first step I felt the world vanishing and collapsed catching myself on the rail when I tried to stand upright again the railing disappeared and I was left in a pile on the ground. I don't know how long I was there but I know my dog woke me up and helped me to get back in the house. I collapsed at least 3 more times once I got in the house on my way to the bedroom to lay down. Only occasionally could I catch a glimpse of what we call reality. I finally made it to my bed and had to lay down. Things were dissolving around me I came in a out a couple of times because I felt like I was sweating to death. I thought about taking a cold shower to cool down but I didn't have the capability so I just stripped down and layed in front of the fan. Things disappeared again I kept thinking to myself just don't forget to breath every thing will be over soon. I felt like I had amnesia. I didn't know who or what I was I couldn't remember what I did or what I've learned. I thought I was going to be like this forever.
When I finally let myself succumb to it. I wasn't myself anymore. I was my mother, my father, my daughter, my ex, my girlfriend, I was her ex. I lived all of these lives from the beginning to the end. I lived my life from conception to death. I remember feeling like knew everything, the past, present and future. There was a period of time(I wish I could tell you how long other than forever) where I questioned my own reality/life. I thought that none of what I perceive is real it's all in my head an illusion created by me and for me. I really started questioning my sanity and again I was afraid I would never return Shortly after this things started to come back into focus and by around 11pm I was able to partially function in the real world.
I left a lot of stuff out of this report it would literally take me several lifetimes to type it all out. I came away from the experience with a twisted ankle and a busted up knee(not sure how it happened if it was outside or in). The auditory hallucinations were deafening towards the end all I could hear was everything and I just wanted quiet.
I'm not sure when and if I'll ever go for a level 5 again. I think I enjoy the lower doses where there are only slight visuals, things are funnier and generally just more entertaining.
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Edited by pyronym (10/18/10 09:36 AM)
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 Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: pyronym]
#13354955 - 10/18/10 09:40 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Firstly, thank you so much for sharing that with us. No doubt you presently feel it falls into the 'bad one' category...but in time I think you might just view it differently. I say this as 20 years ago I had a trip very much like you describe. Certainly of the same intensity - about 400 fresh p.semilanceata in a brew, the strongest dose I have ever taken.
Open eye visuals were incredible...I'd look at a wall and see a dancing elven figure that I could sketch you today in great detail. It was so vivid...as real as you or I. It had typical elven shaped ears but had multi-coloured jewels dotted around the outside/rim...like ear studs but natural and not false. These kind of details have stayed with me for years. It was incredible. I lay in my girlfriend's bed and looked at the curtains and saw cities...with people and vehicles milling about, and smoke coming from the chimneys of quaint little buildings. All this in great detail....with no concentration on my part. Everything was being embellished with celtic knot-work on the fly...so I'd look at a white paint door frame and beautiful celtic knot patterns would 'grow' on the paintwork from one side to the other.
However, all this came after one of the most horrific stages of a trip I've ever had. I, too, lost all sense of who or what I was. I didn't even know what a human was...let alone who I was, who the girl next to me was (a dearly beloved girlfriend of some years standing at the time) or what family and friendship is/was. Slowly I crawled back (mentally) to knowing all this stuff yet, no sooner had I managed this, I was into the typical 'bad trip' good/evil battle within. Apparently I was crying my eyes out asking my girlfriend if I "was a good man". She, too, was tripping and was on a bad one...although she'd had less, as had my other two friends. One of whom was diabetic and was convinced he was going "hyper" and had to leave...so him and his girlfriend left.
For a good while I only seemed to look back upon it as a VERY bad trip, putting to one side all the good stuff that came as I slowly came down to a more tolerable level (the above 'elf' and curtain cities are only a hint of what I experienced that night). Yet now I also look back on the bad part with a sort of pride...in the sense that I fought a battle within, and won. Perhaps even a battle for my sanity. I believe I analysed much about myself that I didn't like that night, and being only young at the time...it was a good age to find such enlightenment, as I changed those aspects of my personality. I became a better friend, lover and family member.
I'd like to think you, too, will take a lot of positive from your experience. I shall forever respect hallucinogens as a tool...not something you take to get "off your face". I no longer smoke weed, drink alcohol or take any other kind of drug...yet two or three times per year I trip...I take that journey back into my 'soul'. I have just in the last few years started to experiment with large doses again. For many years after the above trip I took much smaller doses...to gain the more controllable levels you elude to. But I have started to push the doses higher again...and I've been [mostly] fine. I guess with age comes a wisdom of sorts? I don't know. All I do know is that I have been *loving* the journeys I have taken.
Thanks again for a splendid trip report. All the best to you, my psychonaut friend. 
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: pyronym]
#13355151 - 10/18/10 10:25 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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good report well done for winning the battle, i have similar trips and "all i have to do is breathe to make it till the end".
i loose all association with reality at higher doses, these trips are difficult but show us how we construct our reality in our heads.
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: monkiman]
#13355336 - 10/18/10 11:20 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Wow!! Props to you. I have never done them but I was going to just
eat a few fresh but maybe just one now lol
good vibes to you
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#13355803 - 10/19/10 04:34 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I think part of the reason it was so intense was that I was coming down with a cold. I do not look at it as a bad trip at all, to be honest I don't believe in them. I know someone may read this and think it was bad but I think it's all in your mind either way. Either this world is real and we will be fine on our trip or the world we trip in is real and we will be fine here. Either way there are lessons learned. I think there are trips where you have fun and trips where you learn the best trip is a mix of the 2.
@locksmith not sure what kind of shrooms you are planing to take but if they are cubes I would recommend 1.5-1.75 dried grams as a good place to start. I think it is irresponsible to just jump in head first looking for that level 5 trip(not that I'm accusing you of that just some friendly advice) Build your way up too it. You can alway buy/grow more mushrooms so there's no need to go balls to the wall on the first shot. If the trip I had sunday would have been my first trip it would have been my last. The more experience I gain the more I feel like trips like these are par for the course and should be expected every once in a while. As long as you can sit and think to yourself I'm learning something you are good to go. Good luck on your trip and keep us updated should you decide to write a trip report.
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: pyronym]
#13355837 - 10/19/10 05:02 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
It took about an hour and a half for it to really set in that I was tripping balls. Colors had been enhanced but for the first time the ground was moving it was like I was on a boat the ground kept moving back and forth but only when I wasn't looking at it. I started seeing patterns in everything, very tribal looking(mezo-american).
Oh yeah I would even go as far as to say this shifting Aztec symbol pattern is the most prominent and dominating of all shroom hallucinations ("rivers in wood", "breathing", "morphing" etc are all it's variations). It morphs into objects and the objects themselves are moving and look like this pattern. I recently had 2g trip and this pattern was breathtaking, morphing into far away buildings, clouds, pavement etc. Awesome stuff.
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: pyronym]
#13357464 - 10/19/10 12:33 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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thats sweeeeeet!!
iam on my first grow will put a few cakes in a sgc in a few days lil pins are starting to grow in my jar
it only took 2wks and 3 days to get 100% i have ks ksss and cn what one would you eat????
laterz
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#13357513 - 10/19/10 12:45 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I would eat which ever one fruits first. They say a cube is a cube is a cube but just like sanity it's all relative. You may have some that are more or less potent than others. I would just do a test run one week of like a gram and a half and then decide what you want to do from there. I seem to lose my tolerance within a week. Either way make sure you are tripping with a friend that is experienced if possible for the first run. Read a lot of trip reports and expect the unexpected.
Good luck bro.
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: pyronym]
#13357558 - 10/19/10 12:55 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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thanks i been readibg everything on this site sence day ONE love it
should i eat them dry or just pull one off and eat it up the first few of them iam
going to print them
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#13357711 - 10/19/10 01:31 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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For me personally I don't like the taste of them fresh go to a head shop and spend 15 bucks on a scale you really shouldn't eyeball doses.
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: pyronym]
#13360072 - 10/19/10 09:56 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I have one paid 11.99 can't beat that
so when wet u \ by 2 right
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#13360790 - 10/20/10 04:22 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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they are 90% water so multiply by 10 if you are looking to take 1.75 grams dry it would be appx equal to 17.5 grams wet. IMHO it's much easier to eat 1.75 grams than 17.5 but that's just me. You may love the taste of mushrooms, if so go for the fresh ones.
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: pyronym]
#13361457 - 10/20/10 09:26 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Ok thanks
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: ShadOWCrack]
#13366226 - 10/21/10 10:37 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I like your trip report. My last grow was Mazatapec's. I have 2g left that Im saving for Halloween  The body high I got last time was different from the other cubes I've had. Tis a good trip.
As for eating shrooms fresh, they're more potent than dried because the psilocybin reduces to a third of what it was I believe when dried. I might be wrong.
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: Divinity]
#13366317 - 10/21/10 11:03 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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From the reading I've done 1/3 sounds really high I've seen a lot of conversions like 2 grams dry is equal to 18.5 fresh and other similar conversions no my dose was about 1/3 aborts so maybe that's why it was strong.
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: pyronym]
#13366775 - 10/21/10 01:06 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Ahh, you're probably right. I just read it last year when i was getting into growing. Probably outdated info. But the Mazzie trip is beautiful
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: Divinity]
#13367517 - 10/21/10 04:26 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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If you have stomach issues with our mushroom buddies, try lemontek or some variant.
Some of my early trips were messed up by cramps or burbles or what-have-you.
Then a buddy showed my what a lemon and blender can do with an 8th.
Any acidic juice would work, lemon being one of the best due to massive citric acid content.
Blend juice and shrooms very fine and let sit for 5-10 minutes. Drink straight, no straining, or use to make lemonade or some-such. Some say it intensifies and shortens the whole trip, but IME and the exp of folks in my crew, it just quickens onset. Some of my pals have tender tummies and were wary since they "always puke" with shrooms. Nary a complaint from them, and they all gulped chunky lemonade.
I should be getting paid by Lemontek(tm) for all this advertising I do for them. Sheesh.
Very eloquent report here, my friend. A pleasure to read.
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: slitheen]
#13376013 - 10/23/10 11:37 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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I shit you not, I had the same type of visuals as you. I looked at my bathroom floor on a crazy high dose and saw elves dancing and waving. I saw tiles melting color and lost all sense of reality. I thought it was a bad trip but you're right, after time passes you're like, was it a bad trip? Or was I just not looking for a loss of reality?
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: Turncoated]
#13383229 - 10/24/10 11:14 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Sweet! I've got Maza's growing right now for the first time...was wondering how the potency was on them. Looking forward to that trip!
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Re: 3 grams freshly dried Mazatapec. Holy fucking shit! [Re: fraspa13]
#13384056 - 10/25/10 06:39 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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The potency for the ones I grew are very strong(in my limited experience). I just took a 2 gram dose this past saturday and while it was not quite as intense as this trip I was still having auditory and visual hallucinations. I'm trying to find that perfect point where I just feel really stoned, my mind goes into overdrive and have some mild visuals. I'm wondering if there is any difference between races because while every trip is difference the maz trip for me seems to be accompanied by slight confusion/disorientation. I had my gf pick me up as we had some errands to run. I thought that things would just be more interesting but I felt completely lost. I had a ton of trouble finding the bathroom at target. I had even more trouble finding a bathroom at wawa(convenience store)It was almost like being trapped in a labyrinth.
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Tom
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