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bud and anxiety
    #13339383 - 10/15/10 09:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

when i was a teen and in my early 20's i use to smoke, A LOT!!! and it was some high grade at that. i then quit because it really started to fuck with my anxiety. my thoughts we become twisted and i would start thinking some crazy stupid shit. i became a real quiet and un fun person while high.

its been about 2 years since i last smoked and im thinking about picking it up again. i am a little scared though because of the anxiety. it really sucks and if its still the same then i would def stay away.

any thoughts or input?


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Dunno]
    #13339399 - 10/15/10 09:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like you are just an anxious person, and pot can make that worse...

You are already anxious about it, I wouldn't smoke when you are anxious.

Or just smoke a nice indica. Put you to sleep=less anxiety


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Dunno]
    #13339422 - 10/15/10 09:57 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That sounds exactly like my experiences with weed. I smoked almost every day since I was 16, but I had to quit close to 3 years ago because it made me so anxious and reserved.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #13339462 - 10/15/10 10:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I really need to just make this my sig.

"Don't smoke, vape".

All of my anxiety problems due to weed were due to inhaling the smoke. I've had about 20-30 panic attacks from weed while smoking and not even one while vaping.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Rocker232]
    #13339484 - 10/15/10 10:10 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Probably in your head ya know

If you have anxiety due to thinking you are inhaling all kinds of "bad shit" you are more likely to panic when high vs the security of having a vape, knowing you'll just get the good stuff

But maybe there are some cannabinoids in smoked pot that cause anxiety.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Rocker232]
    #13339510 - 10/15/10 10:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Even Vaporizing cannabis would cause heightened anxiety.

But then again, I've been struggling with anxiety since I was a little kid.

Shit sucks. About a month ago I had to go to the ER for panic attacks twice.

IV ativan sucks.... IM ativan is pretty awesome though. Shit lasted close to 7 hours.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #13339522 - 10/15/10 10:19 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

its really weird yeah, some alcohol really takes the edge off though imho.
beer especially as its mellowing


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #13339525 - 10/15/10 10:20 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Benzos will work but I wouldn't get in the habit of eating xanax everytime you smoke.

Actually, with me, any other downer was good for pot anxiety. :crazy2:


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: mikeisapro]
    #13339540 - 10/15/10 10:25 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I really need to just make this my sig.

"Don't smoke, vape".

All of my anxiety problems due to weed were due to inhaling the smoke. I've had about 20-30 panic attacks from weed while smoking and not even one while vaping.



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Probably in your head ya know

If you have anxiety due to thinking you are inhaling all kinds of "bad shit" you are more likely to panic when high vs the security of having a vape, knowing you'll just get the good stuff

But maybe there are some cannabinoids in smoked pot that cause anxiety.




I agree.  I think that is only in your head.

If I remember right, THC vaporizes at a lower temperature than CBD, and I'm pretty sure that it is the THC that causes the anxiety. 
So you should be getting far more anxiety from  vaping, than you would from smoking.

I stopped smoking for a while, and now I get slightly anxious as well. Vapin vs smoking, there's no real anxiety difference to me.
I Bought a new pipe, and I am focusing on only smoking in absolutely safe places, when I have nothing to be anxious about.
So far it is working.  I'm getting used to relaxing when I smoke that pipe.

and it's the shit.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: ohmatic]
    #13339541 - 10/15/10 10:26 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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its really weird yeah, some alcohol really takes the edge off though imho.
beer especially as its mellowing




Alcohol cuts anxiety temporarily, but rebound anxiety after a night of drinking is pretty terrible.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: ohmatic]
    #13339546 - 10/15/10 10:26 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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its really weird yeah, some alcohol really takes the edge off though imho.
beer especially as its mellowing




alcohol use to due wonders for my anxeity, but i took it too far for too long and became an all day drinker starting at 7 in the morning. it fucked up my life and i lost a lot of shit which is why i quit drinking.

i do have a pretty fucked anwiety problem that needs to be looked into and i really wouldnt mind getting a script for kpins, but i dont want to become dependent on the shit. all i hear is how fucked benzo addictiuon is.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: mikeisapro]
    #13339549 - 10/15/10 10:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

This happened to me as well. I would smoke the best with the best, then about 6 years into indulging, shit turned on me quick. I kinda blame psychedellics because I over indulged when I was younger, but I don't want to give them a bad name since they have helped me much more than hurt. I wouldn't smoke if I were you. i occasionally do, and its 50/50 that I'll enjoy it or just get miserably paranoid. Give it a test run and see how that works.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #13339552 - 10/15/10 10:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I agree.  I think that is only in your head.






Of course it's all in your head. Just like depression, bipolar disorder or schizophrenia.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Dunno]
    #13339559 - 10/15/10 10:29 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I am so crazy busy that at sometimes i feel like i have to force myself to relax and take a break......i do too much and i have been thinking bud would be the best solution to help me relax when i cant.

You have got to have time for yourself sometimes :heart:


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: mikeisapro]
    #13339561 - 10/15/10 10:29 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Probably in your head ya know

If you have anxiety due to thinking you are inhaling all kinds of "bad shit" you are more likely to panic when high vs the security of having a vape, knowing you'll just get the good stuff

But maybe there are some cannabinoids in smoked pot that cause anxiety.




Disagree. I have seen the same effects in many other people I know. Granted I am not working with a gigantic group I still think it holds some water as I've seen it observed and also told to me. Another great example is a friend of mine who tends to get schizoid tendencies when he smokes weed. He'll get high and act like a child spouting nonsense and for the most part not giving a fuck about anyone else around him. If all we have is my vape he's a completely different person. He goes from "that crazy kid" to just another kid. Its amazing really because I can't stand the crazy version of him at all.

The come up is easier when you vape and I would assume that most anxiety stems from coming up. People just do not look at Marijuana in the way they look at other drugs. A lot of people say that the come up on mushrooms is difficult, but why is a come up never even mentioned for Marijuana? When I discovered all of this for myself I was not even solely vaping and at that time I really had no problem with smoking weed. I simply had a vape at my house and had no other means of smoking. I would bring it around here and there to show off but not because I had an issue with smoking. Not until I stopped smoking completely did I throw away all the garbage that was getting in the way of my high.

I contribute it to just what you did. Burning Marijuana tends to release cannaboids that are not present when vaping. A guy over at Fuckcombustion.com is exactly experimenting on temperatures with Marijuana and finding that certain feelings like "euphoria" tend to come about at ~195 degrees Fahrenheit. Its definitely still a young test but I see where he's going with it. For example he states that the higher temps are what induce sleep. I can turn my vape up and get a sleepy stone feeling where if I leave it at a lower temp I feel energetic.

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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #13339562 - 10/15/10 10:30 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well im just about to wait till this rye is done simmering and will pick up some beers,
then later some reefer will be hit and i sure like that combo :smile:


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Dunno]
    #13339566 - 10/15/10 10:30 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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its really weird yeah, some alcohol really takes the edge off though imho.
beer especially as its mellowing




alcohol use to due wonders for my anxeity, but i took it too far for too long and became an all day drinker starting at 7 in the morning. it fucked up my life and i lost a lot of shit which is why i quit drinking.

i do have a pretty fucked anwiety problem that needs to be looked into and i really wouldnt mind getting a script for kpins, but i dont want to become dependent on the shit. all i hear is how fucked benzo addictiuon is.




From what I understand, benzo dependancy is pretty similar to alcohol dependency.

Fortunately I haven't experienced either. Although I am an alcoholic, I haven't yet developed a physical dependency to it.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #13339586 - 10/15/10 10:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I agree.  I think that is only in your head.






Of course it's all in your head. Just like depression, bipolar disorder or schizophrenia.



I was talking about the idea that vaping doesn't cause anxiety has no basis in reality other than the placebo effect it can cause in your mind.

Cannabinoids and xanax and opiates can literally be in your head as well.  :lol:


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #13339608 - 10/15/10 10:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Oh ok, I misunderstood...


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #13339615 - 10/15/10 10:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: owls]
    #13339672 - 10/15/10 10:50 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

just food for thought:

I usually get more anxiety when im smoking the heavier "indica" strains of weed that make me more lethargic or tired. being brain dead and lazy all day usually makes me feel pretty shitty, also gives me a good ammount of anxiety when i can hardly socialize even in good company, which indica strains definately do for me. smoking a heady sativa strain is like rays of sunshine flowing thru my veins, it makes me feel particularly amazing even when their isnt anything in particular to feel amazing about, talkative, up and about, etc....

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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: AntiEverything]
    #13339901 - 10/15/10 11:44 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

oh yeah sativa is more uplifting i see it the same way


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: ohmatic]
    #13339911 - 10/15/10 11:47 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well i live in south texas and all we get is that shit schwag from mexico. not even sure exactly what it is.

i think im going to steer clear from bud. the only reason i was going to take up smoking again was cause ive been getting into pills again and this isnt really a healthy habit.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: ohmatic]
    #13339916 - 10/15/10 11:47 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I find that stoney indica highs make my anxiety so much worse. Those types of highs make me feel lethargic, stupid, slow, and mess with my short term memory. I feel worse and can't relax.

Sativa dominants help me feel alert, clear headed, and speed my thought process so I can keep on top of whatever I'm doing.

I also find smoking less amounts, and only smoking in the morning if you leave immediately after help keep you more awake and relaxed.


There has to be someone that has dank near you. If all you can get is schwag then maybe you should take a break.

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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Dunno]
    #13339932 - 10/15/10 11:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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well i live in south texas and all we get is that shit schwag from mexico. not even sure exactly what it is.

i think im going to steer clear from bud. the only reason i was going to take up smoking again was cause ive been getting into pills again and this isnt really a healthy habit.




Mexico weed isn't that bad, really.
Most of it is compressed, sure.  But compressing it doesn't lower the amount of psycho actives.

If you can find a good source, then you can get like a quarter of high mids for like 20 bucks.
It's FAR more worth it than spending 20 for a gram of dank.  unless you smoke everyday, you'll get far higher with the compressed quarter.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #13339940 - 10/15/10 11:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

But then you don't know what type of weed you're smoking. If I can only get indica strains I probably will go without until something with more of a dominating head high comes along. Stoney weeds are a waste to me because I don't enjoy them.

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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Dunno]
    #13340108 - 10/15/10 12:32 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I don't smoke nearly as much as I used to because it also increases my anxiety and makes me not be as social. If I smoke every day I feel it slows me down and I'm not as quick on my feet.

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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: noticeofeviction]
    #13340135 - 10/15/10 12:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Pot doesnt help anxiety unless you get lucky with a strain. Should you decide to smoke again be sure to go outside, and treat your first few times like you would a trip (sounds stupid, but im serious).

Not to mention if you have had psychedelics in the past, THC is gonna fuck with your mind/body from those post experiences, mimicking some effects

Just relax, keep a bar of xanax on you if all else fails, and be in a good environment.....not to mention have 1 hit off a pip, then stop :goodluck:


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: ChronicCluster]
    #13340150 - 10/15/10 12:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I agree.  I think that is only in your head.






Of course it's all in your head. Just like depression, bipolar disorder or schizophrenia.



I was talking about the idea that vaping doesn't cause anxiety has no basis in reality other than the placebo effect it can cause in your mind.

Cannabinoids and xanax and opiates can literally be in your head as well.  :lol:




You don't think inhaling a bunch of smoke that shouldn't be in your lungs could cause anxiety? What do you think the main difference is between smoking and vaping? When I smoke I feel like I cannot breathe and my heart rate soars which is the MAIN source of anxiety from Marijuana.

There's quite a difference :vaped: I think people would rather not admit what they're doing is unhealthy for their body and their mind.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #13340180 - 10/15/10 12:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Even Vaporizing cannabis would cause heightened anxiety.

But then again, I've been struggling with anxiety since I was a little kid.

Shit sucks. About a month ago I had to go to the ER for panic attacks twice.

IV ativan sucks.... IM ativan is pretty awesome though. Shit lasted close to 7 hours.




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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Rocker232]
    #13340226 - 10/15/10 12:57 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I agree.  I think that is only in your head.






Of course it's all in your head. Just like depression, bipolar disorder or schizophrenia.



I was talking about the idea that vaping doesn't cause anxiety has no basis in reality other than the placebo effect it can cause in your mind.

Cannabinoids and xanax and opiates can literally be in your head as well.  :lol:




You don't think inhaling a bunch of smoke that shouldn't be in your lungs could cause anxiety? What do you think the main difference is between smoking and vaping? When I smoke I feel like I cannot breathe and my heart rate soars which is the MAIN source of anxiety from Marijuana.

There's quite a difference :vaped: I think people would rather not admit what they're doing is unhealthy for their body and their mind.





true that man. i cant take smoking too much these days cause sometimes i feel like my heart is gonna collapse. but the worst thing for me is that it just makes me slower. i wish i could get pure sativa strains all the time.  also +1 for vaping.  when i vape it really doesnt seem to slow me down in anyway.

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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: skatealex2]
    #13340269 - 10/15/10 01:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think one of the main problems is very few solely vape. I personally like it a lot more and it reduces the impact weed has on my life. I feel smoking weed leaves me in a continually haze.

I don't claim that vaping is anxiety free. I was still having anxiety issues back in the day with vaping but it made it manageable. I could get high and still sort out of my problems. Even recently I have smoked weed and had no mental trip at all from it but felt anxious due to the effects it had on my physical body. Maybe I'm just more in tune with my body I definitely didn't use to be able to notice an increase in heart rate :shrug:


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Dunno]
    #13340274 - 10/15/10 01:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I'm the same, I rarely blaze now but if I do its only with people who I'm really close with and never in groups because I tend to get anxiety in groups of people that I'm not too familiar with.

However if I'm drinking then its a different story, but still stick to only having a very small amount (a hit or two) or else the anxiety surfaces again or I just space out so I gotta be careful lol.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #13340447 - 10/15/10 02:04 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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That sounds exactly like my experiences with weed. I smoked almost every day since I was 16, but I had to quit close to 3 years ago because it made me so anxious and reserved.




Same thing for me pretty much.  I only smoke when I'm by myself now, after long stressful days.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: RipVanWinkle]
    #13340862 - 10/15/10 04:07 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Someone whom I am too lazy  to attribute this to correctly said:
You don't think inhaling a bunch of smoke that shouldn't be in your lungs could cause anxiety? What do you think the main difference is between smoking and vaping? When I smoke I feel like I cannot breathe and my heart rate soars which is the MAIN source of anxiety from Marijuana.

There's quite a difference  I think people would rather not admit what they're doing is unhealthy for their body and their mind.




Smoke may cause the anxiety for you, but it doesn't for me.  being in an unsafe place causes it for me.
I'm not saying that you don't get anxiety from smoke inhalation, I'm saying that it's more than likely all in your head.

It's the way that you are reacting to the smoke, not the smoke itself.  Since you worry about the damage to your body, of course you would get anxiety from it.
Since I don't worry about the damage from Cannabis smoke (I only worry bout cigarettes) I don't get anxiety from that.

it's rather like adrenaline.  It can be amazing, or it can be terrifying.  But the difference is solely in your head.
Your physiological reaction to adrenaline doesn't change.  Only your mental reaction does.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Rocker232]
    #13340987 - 10/15/10 04:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I really need to just make this my sig.

"Don't smoke, vape".

All of my anxiety problems due to weed were due to inhaling the smoke. I've had about 20-30 panic attacks from weed while smoking and not even one while vaping.




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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Rocker232]
    #13340990 - 10/15/10 04:46 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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n literally be in your head as well.  :lol:




You don't think inhaling a bunch of smoke that shouldn't be in your lungs could cause anxiety? What do you think the main difference is between smoking and vaping? When I smoke I feel like I cannot breathe and my heart rate soars which is the MAIN source of anxiety from Marijuana.

There's quite a difference :vaped: I think people would rather not admit what they're doing is unhealthy for their body and their mind.




So why doesn't a cigarette throw a person into the depths of anxiety?


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #13341000 - 10/15/10 04:50 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

might be because weed smoke is an expectorant and makes you want to cough, which could make people panic?

i dont know, just a theory.

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    #13341056 - 10/15/10 05:06 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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might be because weed smoke is an expectorant and makes you want to cough, which could make people panic?

i dont know, just a theory.




Yeah.... never mind the fact that they are high as hell and extremely uncomfortable and anxious..

Must be the coughing...


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Dunno]
    #13341064 - 10/15/10 05:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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when i was a teen and in my early 20's i use to smoke, A LOT!!! and it was some high grade at that. i then quit because it really started to fuck with my anxiety. my thoughts we become twisted and i would start thinking some crazy stupid shit. i became a real quiet and un fun person while high.

its been about 2 years since i last smoked and im thinking about picking it up again. i am a little scared though because of the anxiety. it really sucks and if its still the same then i would def stay away.

any thoughts or input?





I don't use weed anymore...I can take high doses of psychedelics without any anxiety but just a hit or two of weed makes me an anxious wreck, so I avoid it now.  Took me a few years to get to this point and to realize it though. 

I still like the smell!

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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: MOTH]
    #13341092 - 10/15/10 05:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have bad anxiety problems and marijuana makes them disappear.


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    #13341101 - 10/15/10 05:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I have bad anxiety problems and marijuana makes them disappear.





That's how it used to be for me too...but not anymore!

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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: MOTH]
    #13341125 - 10/15/10 05:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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I have bad anxiety problems and marijuana makes them disappear.





That's how it used to be for me too...but not anymore!




You can use it as a crutch to a certain point and then it will tell you that you need to start solving problems. If it starts getting bitter it means you need to change something in your life I believe. My pseudo-scientific opinion.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: You Agree]
    #13341190 - 10/15/10 05:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I can't smoke it anymore for pretty much the same reason. I just started smoking again after not touching it for around 15 years, and I've found out that I just don't like it anymore.

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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: You Agree]
    #13341199 - 10/15/10 05:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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You Agree said:
I have bad anxiety problems and marijuana makes them disappear.





That's how it used to be for me too...but not anymore!




You can use it as a crutch to a certain point and then it will tell you that you need to start solving problems. If it starts getting bitter it means you need to change something in your life I believe. My pseudo-scientific opinion.





I more or less agree.  I'm a writer and it seems like I get so much more writing done when I don't use weed at all.  Just not my cup of tea anymore, but that's okay...I love me some stoner friends.  :heart:

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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #13341620 - 10/15/10 08:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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n literally be in your head as well.  :lol:




You don't think inhaling a bunch of smoke that shouldn't be in your lungs could cause anxiety? What do you think the main difference is between smoking and vaping? When I smoke I feel like I cannot breathe and my heart rate soars which is the MAIN source of anxiety from Marijuana.

There's quite a difference :vaped: I think people would rather not admit what they're doing is unhealthy for their body and their mind.




So why doesn't a cigarette throw a person into the depths of anxiety?




I think we're all getting confused here. Let's regroup!

In Marijuana there are dozens of chemicals. Some of them come out at different temperatures. One of the first things I noticed about vaping (before I thought it was better) was that I had such an energetic high. Regardless of indica/sativa dominance that usually remains. This happens because at this lower temp the chemicals that make you alert, high etc are released while those that make you sleepy do not get released. An easy way of showing this is that if you eat vaped weed the only high you get off of it is wanting to sleep. Those chemicals remain while the others are released at the lower temps.

Com-busting however is a much higher temperature that releases different kinds of chemicals. Ones that make you sleepy, anxious etc. I noticed much of this when I first got the vape and was still using it at the same time as a bong. When I started using it solely it became much more apparent.

There is something inside of weed that when lit on fire makes me extremely anxious. I don't understand why this is so hard to believe. If vaping tends to produce a more energetic and clear headed high why wouldn't com-busting produce a lethargic and anxious high?

Now don't get me wrong I think that whatever chemical it is simply "increases" your existing anxiety. If you're an anxious person weed is going to make you more anxious. I merely think that you can keep getting high while working on your anxiety in another way (meditation, yoga, working out etc)

In addition you can get high all the time and only have to buy weed once in a blue moon. There is NOTHING beneficial about smoking weed versus vaping it unless your sole intent is for it to put you to sleep.

Its not the smoke its what's inside of it.


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: Rocker232]
    #13341721 - 10/15/10 08:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

danced, toked, danced some more, toked some shitload mored, anx'd ordered cab - nap


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Re: bud and anxiety [Re: AntiEverything]
    #13342009 - 10/15/10 09:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i have heard of this happening to so many people. i don't ever see it happening to me but i guess we will see haha. give it another shot just prepare for it as if you were going to trip. make sure your in a comfortable place with the right people (maybe alone) and have nothing to be worried about, i dont understand how you could get all anxious if you do it like this. also if you are smoking headies just take one hit and see how you feel. maybe smoke a joint so you can very slowly get to where you want to go and don't push it. im gonna smoke a fat bowl to my head now :bigblunt:


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