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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13400519 - 10/28/10 02:18 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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auweia said: something of a major announcement and i finally got permission to post the info, without the other screen name for reason I have no idea why, but here goes
people might recall the discovery of p subaeruginascens/p ovoidiocystidiata here in san francisco in the last 5 years although there appears to be a couple of different types and the name still probably needs to be worked out a bit
I discovered one patch in San francisco, now shared with another member who discovered it on his own, and this patch is pictured on wiki here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_subaeruginascens
same patch/photo from 2008, wider angle

this is also the exact same SF patch a year later, fruiting in February in 2009
  
since then, this original SF patch has run out of food and I covered it with another layer of Scotts sierra Red chips last spring, but I also have done many transplants, I don't have any control over any of the areas and none are irrigated, but the mycelium still survives in most places
The thinking has been with this new species that it is a SPRING fruiter and all indications have been that way, with occasional fall fruiting. this is also mostly true for the Ohio p oviodiocystidiata, which is either related or the same, at least with some of the subspecies
apparently this is not totally true because 2 years ago i sent some spores to a friend in Switzerland, and for those who might remember, it's preferred to keep the screen name out of this (it's not related to this forum)
Now, this friend in Switzerland had a much better means of controlling an out door patch and keeping it well irrigated at all times. The spores were grown and spent an entire year indoors in incubation while my friend tried different techniques to try to get it to fruit indoors, like p cubensis, to no avail
then last year he put it outside in regular hard wood chips, it sat there for nearly a year and started fruiting for the first time in April/May/June in switzerland
quote from the friend in europe I got today in email
"I just want to let you know, that your San Francisco Psilocybe find (subaeruginascens or ovoid or whatever...) is doing GREAT in Switzerland.
First fruiting during May / June 2010. Then it stopped and started fruiting again by the end of August. Massive fruiting between September 25 and October 14 and it is still going on. The attached photos are from October 7. 2010"
this is basically the very first time a completely successful growth from spores has happened with this San Francisco species, altho one other person has done it in Washington, but that one seemed less controlled
anyway, the fact is that this time around the biggest fruiting ever is happening right now, in October, in Switzerland
this is literally a piece of San Francisco fruiting right now in Switzerland, and here are the pics





As for the original San francisco patch, it's now covered in a fresh layer of mulch and the mycelium is doing great..it's only watered occasionally...most transplants around the bay area are not watered so we have to depend on the weather for the right conditions to happen again, and now we know it could almost happen at any time
the notion of a definite 'season' with this new species has now sort of gone out the window, and obviously we're going to need lots more time to really get a handle on this species and what it can do
but nevertheless, now you know this species is surviving and expanding
PS, notice the greenish/olive tint in some of those. the largest caps are fully mature and will not get wavy/undulate around the caps, unlike some other subspecies
edit-update, this friend in Switzerland has also said that he has gotten proper p ovoidiocystidiata spores from Ohio and has fruited those and finds significant differences between the San francisco species and the Ohio species, but i don't know yet what those are
the san francisco species, first named as p subaeruginascens has a fruiting cycle twice as long as p cyanescens, a full month and longer, where p cyans matures in two weeks...this is already unusual for a wood chip species by itself, as I believe that would make it the longest fruiting cycle. Furthermore, the original thought that is is subtropical related from japan or java is even more bizarre because most tropical species need to fruit in a matter of days, not weeks, because the higher temps would dry them out. And yet, this species cannot seem to be connected with any consistent normal temperature drop like p cyanescens can. It's now looking like this species will fruit any time it damn well wants to, thank you very much
the san francisco species is also now being spread further around europe where other people have been successful in fruitng it, so i imagine it's just a matter of time before more testing and comparisons get done
in a way it's sort of out of my hands now, because I'm totally dependent on public places I can't control, and can't get the same results in the wild depending on the weather, especially with a new species as difficult as this...I don't have a back yard...wish I did
bu p subaeruginascens isn't going away, and there definitely will be more, somewhere in the future
Just beautiful! And really interesting!
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: MycoMistress]
#13402228 - 10/28/10 07:24 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Went to Tilden on Tuesday and found some nice Ganodernmas and Chickens. Overall the place seems pretty crappy for mushrooms, but I haven't explored all of it and it may not be the right time yet. I might have found some chanterelles there 2 years ago, but couldn't find the spot again this time, I tend to go way off trail, wherever looks interesting.

Anyone have a guess as to what species the ganoderma are? What's the first mushroom?
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: bukujutsu]
#13406470 - 10/29/10 04:24 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Turkey tail?
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13407014 - 10/29/10 06:30 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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auweia said:


what are these ones? I found a few large patches of these earlier today.
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Edited by radicaljonny (10/29/10 06:30 PM)
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: radicaljonny]
#13407046 - 10/29/10 06:39 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those are a coprinoid, maybe Coprinopsis lagopus.
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: bukujutsu]
#13407380 - 10/29/10 07:49 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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bukujutsu said:
Anyone have a guess as to what species the ganoderma are? What's the first mushroom?
The Ganodermas are G. applanatum.
Macro pics of the underside are needed to identify the first mushroom, but it might be Abortiporus biennis.
The coprinoids from another post are definitely Coprinopsis lagopus.
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#13407798 - 10/29/10 09:19 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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way to go guys
iv got my eyes peeled on the north bay nothing at any of my handful of known patches
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: notapillow]
#13411427 - 10/30/10 07:35 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13411468 - 10/30/10 07:49 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: Joie]
#13412742 - 10/31/10 02:11 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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I made a trip to the bay today and found some fungi! Not many but i am happy to have found some.
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: never_2_high]
#13415475 - 10/31/10 08:16 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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covert intelligence gathering by the central fungus agency operation San Francisco Bay Area - October 31, 2010
Halloween - Joe Friday reporting




















here's one for lanlord, a comparison of bluing with cyans and friscosa
Edited by auweia (10/31/10 08:17 PM)
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13415495 - 10/31/10 08:21 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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We need names, dammit. Those mushrooms are reading the newspaper upside down.
Tricky.
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
#13415515 - 10/31/10 08:27 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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here, this one might be a little better. I mean there's really no difference I've seen between friscosa and cyan except for the shape..and maybe friscosa are a little puffier, like cheese puffs...er, slightly less dense
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13416340 - 11/01/10 01:02 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Some chanterelles and huckleberries from the north coast this weekend.

...and some halloween treats from San Francisco today.
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: scout24]
#13417385 - 11/01/10 11:33 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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aaah, yeah....that's the stoof
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13418526 - 11/01/10 04:58 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Had a nice haul of chanterelles this weekend.
Two of the prettiest...
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: auweia]
#13418758 - 11/01/10 05:48 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
auweia said:
covert intelligence gathering by the central fungus agency operation San Francisco Bay Area - October 31, 2010
Halloween - Joe Friday reporting
Nice covert intelligence report!!!
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: shroomgatherer]
#13419157 - 11/01/10 06:54 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice stuff! I love this weather change.
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Re: The Official San Francisco Bay Area fall 2010 winter 2011 season [Re: Civ]
#13420437 - 11/01/10 10:43 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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day around the bay...unfortunately many of the pins pictured today may not make it past this week with the very warm and dry weather..It depends on how shriveled they get--we'll see
but here's a real covert action...On the way home I literally went through the crowd watching the World Series at the San Francisco Civic center---huge crowd, maybe 10,000 and spored everybody with fresh cyans (just basically holding a few cyans up and let the spores drift in the wind in the middle of the crowd)...with these same ones pictured here...here's how it works...whatever spores got released into the crowd by the cyans will attach to peoples clothing, hair, whatever, and they will carry the spores home, unknowingly and spread them throughout the bay for the next few days, weeks
and the SF Giants just won the world series!!..Cyans at the world series!..hehe
..big parade tomorrow on market street
for these cyans, it's a dream come true. The chance to spread their spores far beyond their own little patch, and for me, it's a thank you to them, for keeping me happy
enjoy the pics...keep in mind it's still early in the season..plenty of time for the weather to get rainy again















Edited by auweia (11/01/10 11:51 PM)
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Will my two year shut-out in GGP end? [Re: MycoMistress]
#13420847 - 11/02/10 12:06 AM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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First post. Thanks all for the great wealth of knowledge accumulated here. I've been a devoted amateur mycophile all my life, and since moving to the bay area(Mendocino Cnty is home)I've spent A LOT of time in the park. I run there, walk my dog- I spend more time in GGP on weekly basis than I do at work, where thankfully I work full-time at night. I'm on my search early this year thankful for the early rains. I've been yet unable to find the beautiful blue streaks. I like to think I have a good eye for habitat from experience, and I do put my time in but the reward hasn't come. I know where every wood chip bed lies west of 19th and have fearlessly tread through condom caves from end to end. This will be my year I know. Keep the pictures coming and I'm hoping I'll be posting my own very soon. I saw some really bad mushroom raping today on my walk, who the hell would make a 3lb pile of mushrooms for nothing? I know without a doubt now it was nobody here! Those damn red hypholomas were messing with my mind today. Tomorrow will be another 4hr wander. Rain on.
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