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 Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: veritas.socal]
#13206939 - 09/16/10 09:07 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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veritas.socal said:
interesting poll. what about a poll about beneficial effects of sacremental entheogenic substances, or is there already one? because i think that these substances profoundly change peoples lives.
cool story bro!
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Avid]
#13281238 - 10/02/10 07:11 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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i recently had my most severe adverse effect from my use of psychedelics.
i've been tripping very frequently for the past two months.
quite a few marathon trips in there as well.
very frequently- and i full well knew the risk involved i just honestly don't afraid of that lol.
i've been taking extreme care of my body and mind by constantly exercising,
taking lots of vitamins and supplements (5-htp, melatonin, b1-12, among many others).
and for two months i tripped (usually VERY hard) two to three times a week.
and i felt amazing 24/7- at the greatest physical and mental peak i've been at in my life-
but last weekend i was partying with some friends and we decided to trip lightly so we did.
we stayed up through the night and the next day tripping and crashed sunday night.
what i'm getting to-->
i woke up this past monday morning and something wasn't right.
i was out of it.
i was in this fried out state of mind to somewhat varying degrees up until thursday,
and not feeling completely better until friday afternoon.
through it i fully realized that everything was kinda turned off, or distorted.
it was weird that i was doing chemistry and calculus more easily than i ever have..
but i was still behaving very oddly, my perceptions were so alien and retarded.
i was very happy the whole time too. with a very clear inner-voice and linear thoughts, which is uncommon for me.
possibly incidentally, but noteworthy-
the onset of this happened three weeks after i had stopped taking my bi-daily dose of 100mg of 5-htp.
i started the 5-htp again along with abstaining from pot (which aggravated it) on tuesday after i noticed the effects monday morning.
and on thurday night, the symptoms had been relieved, and by friday they were gone.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: seanommmmmmm]
#13290046 - 10/04/10 05:31 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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comparison and contrast of psilocybin and LSD??
The very first difference one has to keep in mind is one is natural and one is synthetic.
Having said that, everyone is different and in a certain set/mindstate/physical balance so things will effect everyone differently but usually there are parallels to the experience either noticed right away or discussed at a later time. I had a time period where I experimented with dxm and felt similar embarrassment because of it...but I also found a group of people online who were doing similar things and we would gather to discuss it and relay our experiences. So for me it became true research. I look back now being in my 30's and wonder what the fuck I as doing and why. I used to day dream about working in a Psychedelic Research Institute and that all these trips would come together and pop into the future all of these things we were experiencing...and it would be tangible. Well we are only a few years away from something that raised mckenna's eyebrows at the very least on that date I would like to feel immense hope. An overwhelming tidal wave of white light hope. Things will be pointing toward a better future....a broadening of horizons future. I concur that it has to start with medicine. Heal. Let the bubble burst forward into a dazzling display of ever changing possiblities all unfolding all over each other. A kaleidoscope of pathways interchanging and becoming and evolving. I do have to put out there that I need a new ally. Mary Jane and my anxiety issues aren't working well together and I've noticed a tendency toward alcohol more and more and I'm not happy with this. Tried kava kava and two different types of kratom to no avail. If anyone can recommend anything I can try in the evenings to relax, anti-anxiety, nice body buzz, peaceful time I'd be appreciative.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: theta_waves]
#13293584 - 10/05/10 12:07 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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ive had 1 bad trip because i had a large dose of libs,it was 50 mon,100 tue,200 wed,50 thu morn,400thur eve, all fine nice trips then 1000 fri but could only get half down was sick twice thought i was in hell but sat i felt fine.it was only scary going up went so fast,this was about 15 yrs ago, used to pick loads and save them to last the yr.only had them7 or 8 times since dont get much in the way of visuals off low doses any more but started getting a taste for them again now i forgot how nice the feeling is, great poll btw.when i look at digital numbers that are illuminated green they usually wobble up and down not allways but occasionally,have a lot of de ja vu but this i attribute to my time sniffing petrol,glue and thinners when i was a kid
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: phayze]
#13298436 - 10/06/10 11:04 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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If you're not experiencing dark trips, you are sheltered IMO. Try getting high on acid and hanging out in the part of town where crack is the economic base. Try tripping around meth tweakers. Cops. The streets. That is where reality is people.
I consider society the antithesis of psychedelics. There is almost nothing psychedelic about modern culture. This is of course a matter of opinion. You can use psychedelics for whatever you want.
But I just think paranoia is ultimate awareness, and ignorance is bliss. My life changed when I travelled in Mexico as a child and saw the abject poverty of the people there living without sewage and water sanitation, digging through dumps.
Experiences like these almost invariably prevent me from being able to have a party /good trip. It is always an ego death.
This is a good thing IMO.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: universatile]
#13312079 - 10/09/10 08:51 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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If you're not experiencing dark trips, you are sheltered IMO. Try getting high on acid and hanging out in the part of town where crack is the economic base. Try tripping around meth tweakers. Cops. The streets. That is where reality is people.
I disagree.
Close the curtains, trip in your bed, lying in darkness with your eyes closed. No music, no distractions. Lose track of your body as your mind wanders, be fully absorbed in the internal dimension together with the Mushroom, and whatever governs this Universe. Immerse yourself in an internal world that can be completely shaped by your organism interacting with the mushroom experience.
THAT is where Reality is.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#13313319 - 10/09/10 02:45 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Reality is whatever you make of it. However I prefer not to hide from outer space in things like meditation and, my self. Within the confines of my own trip I do not experience as much if any sympathy with others. I become a raging megalomaniac. To go outside of myself I must go outside.
Perhaps this is an affliction.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#13315060 - 10/10/10 01:07 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Wiccan are you serious because i did acid a year or more ago by myself in my basement and i started having what i thought was a heart attack, it pierced my chest so badly for so long i was writhing on the ground, couldnt even get to my phone or do anything, i really thought i was going to die. i kept getting panic attacks and the pain almost daily for over 6 months and then i would still get it sometimes, now i get it only really rarely but i am still scared to trip on acid.
Do u think it just happened because i freaked out or because of the mixes in all of those? ive done acid a couple times before and never had any bad experiences, in fact thats the only bad experience ive ever had with any psychedelic but at the same time its not what you would call a bad trip i would call it a medical emergency.
Also i know this is a long post already but when i do other drugs sometimes my heart will feel like it skips a beat, like its just weightless or something for one beat and then it will go right back on track, or sometimes even skip another beat like 3 seconds later. do you think i should be worried? i went to my doc and he told me i was fine and considering ive been tripping like once a week since the middle of the summer and im still alive, i kind of want to believe him and just say im over thinking things way too much.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#13316118 - 10/10/10 11:22 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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if you're not mistaken, and your heart is actually missing beats that often,
something is wrong. it sounds like you might have ASD and i would definitely get a second opinion if only for comfort.
it's your body and you only get one- i personally would not take that kind of chance if i really knew my heart was missing beats that much.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Avid]
#13320045 - 10/11/10 09:19 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Midnight-
I have been to the ER multiple times on mushrooms and lsd, thinking I was having a heart attack.
My heart would race uncontrollably, I would get chest pains. I kept telling myself 'its just the drugs' but it wouldnt stop so I feared for my life.
Over the years I have had EKG's and echo-cardiograms, (the latter is the most thorough picture of your heart), and the doctors said I was fine.
I do get skipped beats sometimes though, when sober.
Looking back I think that part of the reason why I had the chest discomfort is my history of smoking. Perhaps the lsd was not good either.
But what makes me wonder is that when I dis meth or MDMA, I would not get these problems (unless I was smoking meth). There was something about shrooms and LSD that was triggering something.
I have considered that perhaps it was just the psychosomatic effect of panic and anxiety. But even when I would go to a safe place ans lie down, my heart would feel like it was bursting out of my chest.
At one point I described it to the doctor thusly: "I feel like my heart IS my lung." I also felt like there was a hole in my heart.
They have found no such defect.
I think I may have smoked so many cigarettes and inhaled so deeply (I tend to SMOKE a cigarette), that I gave myself early stage heart disease. At the time of these trips, I felt like I had a heart attack as well, and perhaps I did have a small one, or multiple mild ones.
But I just don't know why I experienced this on LSD vs stimulants like speed and coke. I feel like at times for me psychedelics have been much more stimulating. Like they revved up my heart rate much more than speed did.
Anybody have any insight into this matter? I read somewhere once about a guy who experienced LSD exacerbating pre existing heart problems, but I dont know where.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: universatile]
#13320056 - 10/11/10 09:23 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: universatile]
#13320912 - 10/11/10 12:38 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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The poll says a lot about both the forum and the spreading out of the psychedelics during the last decade or so. The "hallucinating counterculture" will not go away.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: universatile]
#13350375 - 10/17/10 09:30 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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That's very interesting, I too get the feeling of a hole in my heart or having a heart attack on LSD. But it doesn't happen to me sober.
I've dosed quite a bit in the past few months, every two or three days for almost a month. And I have some strong feelings of being in an almost dream like state, especially when I smoke pot. My visions bubbles a bit in the dark and when I look at a pattern I see it when I look away.
But it doesn't bother me either, so I'll happily continue to dose and use other psychedelics.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: hansarvin]
#13367849 - 10/21/10 05:33 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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you feel like you're having a heart attack when you do it and you still do it all the time? how can you cope with that? even if you dont feel like it sober its a terrible feeling..
and i also get the effects of the last drug ive done when i smoke pot, it used to be acid for a year i would see colors and trails, then i started doing MDMA so everything would seem really fuzzy and then go high definition and back(if youve done mdma you know what i mean by high definition) and i took mushrooms 2 weeks ago and now things seem to exist in a superposition like theyre in no definite spot.
these things dont bug me either, i consider it a bonus when i smoke weed. the sober visuals i get are mild and i only notice them about 3 times a day, they also dont bug me.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#13377363 - 10/23/10 05:42 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker What you said about how to experience mushrooms is really the perfect thing to do. I did that exact thing lay in my bed eyes closed lights off, and I had the best trip I've ever had. 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: dustyn77]
#13461309 - 11/09/10 09:26 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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These guys who have tripped more than 1,000 times... That's just crazy. 100 even seems like so many times tripping.
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: IAmpat]
#13461689 - 11/09/10 10:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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easy to do in a period of 5-10 years....
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: 13shrooms]
#13481212 - 11/14/10 12:53 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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cool poll ,I'm lmfao at the dumb-asses that keep going to the hospital , if that happens once ...maybe tripping is not for you, 
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Re: The Psychedelics Adverse Effects Poll [Re: amungus]
#13517317 - 11/20/10 10:59 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Anyone ever had what i'd almost describe as 'blackouts' from 3g+ doses?
It's happened to me on both acid and shrooms, I find myself in completely darkness, and if i try hard i can slowly see everything around me, but when i stop trying it just fades back to black.
Quite wierd.
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all i've ever had was a fucked up stomachache after i ingested some aborted mushrooms. 3 hours after i took those, i was crawling on the floor and me and my girlfriend had to hitchhike to the health care center cuz we had no money. taht day i've learned that i had peptic ulcer..real story
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