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The Chronic

Registered: 05/08/04
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One thing i noticed, even thought i hit HUGE bags of DMT vapor that were not good for my lungs, because of the whole mental limits being broken thing, everything ive done since has been stronger, like riding my bike or lifting weights, it's all been much easier to do, i climbed a hill on my bike yesterday easily, when usually leaves me totally breathless. And since the trip i smoked alot of weed with friends & also ate junk food, so i really should not be able to push harder than normal. Definitely feel it was the DMT.
As today i've said a few things about the great after effects, making it sound all lovely & nice, i just want to say again that the trips were NOT enjoyable for the most part
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Saidin
Sun Dragon



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The Chronic said: ...able to push harder than normal. Definitely feel it was the DMT.
As today i've said a few things about the great after effects, making it sound all lovely & nice, i just want to say again that the trips were NOT enjoyable for the most part 
I've found the increased vitality effect as well.
As for the enjoyability factor...I've smoked probably 100 times, and out of all of those only had 3-4 "bad" journeys. Most of mine have been pure bliss...
Set, setting and propoer dosage are very important with this powerful psychedelic. If you go in without respect for the spice, or overdo it, it will smack you around and teach you a lesson.
-------------------- What, you ask, was the beginning of it all? And it is this...
Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably.
-Sri Aubobindo
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The Chronic

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Yeah i def did too much & it smacked me about, i probably deserved a slap
Its good to see you've smoked over 100 times and you can still post on an internet forum, my first high dose i thought i was gonna be insane forever 
I can't wait to try it again, but i'm in no rush (i know that's a contradiction)
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deff
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The Chronic said: def did too much & smacked me about
sorry about that
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The Chronic

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Re: DMT [Re: deff]
#13331605 - 10/13/10 02:29 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Its cool i deserved it
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Saidin
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The Chronic said:
Its good to see you've smoked over 100 times and you can still post on an internet forum, my first high dose i thought i was gonna be insane forever 
Same with my first time. Thought I had died and my parents had found me dead on the couch...trick is to get back on that horse and let it take you for a ride... 
Most of my smoking was in the first 6 months of introduction to it...now it happens sparingly, but each time is totally different and awe inspiring. It is powerful medicine, and it will let you know when you have learned what you can from it. Respect is very important.
-------------------- What, you ask, was the beginning of it all? And it is this...
Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably.
-Sri Aubobindo
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The Chronic

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Im gonna make a very light 'enhanced leaf' mix with vaped cannabis, ill hardly ever use it but i like the idea of having it to hand... if any of my friends want to try it then we'll smoke a j of the enhanced leaf, no way am i ever giving anyone pure crystal, its too potent with potential to be abused.
Im suprised at how many of my friends want to try it, even though i described it as terrifying 
Something i've noticed with this stuff, usually in my meditation im just absorbed in space/peace/bliss throughout the day, but after this weekend i keep having external reality shattered, becoming very aware of everything as an illusion, usually maybe once or twice a week if im lucky, but usually once or twice a month ill have the full insight everything im seeing is an illusion, a hypnosis, but the last couple of days i keep seeing it over & over again, like waking up in the morning today im so lucidly aware that everything that's happening, including this typing, this forum, this entire world, is an illusion, its very very cool
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lolwut
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Chronic, you posted this on the "Friend in need" thread about heroin:
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The Chronic said: For 2-3 weeks after i could smell it everywhere, even though i didn't enjoy the experience my brain wanted more I could see from that how ridiculously addictive the stuff is, even if you don't enjoy it you want more
Sounds a lot like DMT. 
Also could you please elaborate on the illusion bit? Do you think you're seeing through the concepts your mind has built up in the past about reality (seeing those as illusion) or do you mean something else?
-------------------- To be an angel, you gotta earn your wings
To control your own, you gotta burn your strings
To hit blackjack, you gotta turn a king
But to live forever, all you gotta do is learn to sing
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The Chronic

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Yeah but i couldn't see DMT being addictive lol, well i could, but not for very long If i was totally ignorant about meditation & reality then i could see DMT as being addictive, trying to get that bliss, i once did shrooms every week for a couple months...
Then again its a psychedelic, it takes a 'special' kinda person to actually get hooked on psychedelics considering their anti-addictive self reflective aspects
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lolwut said: Also could you please elaborate on the illusion bit? Do you think you're seeing through the concepts your mind has built up in the past about reality (seeing those as illusion)
Yeah i would describe it as seeing through mind, that all this is a product of the cosmic mind, the trees, the sky, the earth, me, you, its all stuff swirling around in the mind of an eternal being that is so immensely 'present' in everything its just mind blowingly ridiculous
Before i'd be seeing a lot that my own personal mind is an illusion, dealing with MY identity, MY world is an illusion, but now its like its extended to the world & everything around it & in it
Its all just a grand hypnosis, but not to say its all unimportant & say that girl jivjan knows is just an illusion, she doesn't really matter as she's just a product of cosmic hypnosis, no, not at all, because waking up from the hypnosis is a great experience & seeing the hypnosis there's a natural compassionate movement towards showing others in the hypnosis, that it's all hypnosis.
Hypnosis is the very base of addictive behaviour because its all the illusion that bliss, wholeness, completion, is found in something other than my sense of self
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lolwut
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Thanks  It's all impermenant, selfless, and unsatisfactory, in the words of the Buddha. Yet all-present. Quite the hypnosis to believe the opposite
And yeah, I didn't mean the addictive part being like DMT - but the smell/taste sticking with you for weeks and coming up seemingly randomly, and the want to go back to that state even though its a big ride and isn't always enjoyable, especially the first few times
I've also done shrooms weekly for consectutive months in the past but I wouldnt say it was addiction, it was neccessary at the time and there was no trouble in not doing them when I didn't need to, because I didn't really want to. Would be different for other people of course, but agreed it would be hard if not impossible to get an addiction to psychedelics on par with heroin or coke etc.
-------------------- To be an angel, you gotta earn your wings
To control your own, you gotta burn your strings
To hit blackjack, you gotta turn a king
But to live forever, all you gotta do is learn to sing
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Scudreloaded
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so what does the DMT trip teach you? i'm tend to do drugs that i dont enjoy, over and over again untill i enjoy some aspect of them. is the trip worth the effort of making this substance? i know its not that hard to make, was just wondering if people regret it or think its worth it. are the two variants very different? i know that a frog has some of it in its poisions and ive thought of raising a few so i'd have the chemical on hand kinda whenever, but then i read it wasnt that visual at all, just ego loss. i kinda search for the visuals
-------------------- We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. - Hunter S. Thompson
- believe what you may but take the internet with a grain of salt
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Envix
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dmt can't teach you anything you don't already know. in fact, it's more likely to take everything you believe in, and show you the reality of the complete opposite
-------------------- wut
Edited by Envix (10/14/10 06:27 PM)
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Scudreloaded
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Re: DMT [Re: Envix]
#13337252 - 10/14/10 06:38 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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but isn't that teaching you something? that all you believe is an illusion
-------------------- We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. - Hunter S. Thompson
- believe what you may but take the internet with a grain of salt
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Envix
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the disillusionment happens gradually over months and months after taking the dmt.
for me the dmt "experience" was kinda like my entire life summed up. like basically the realization that this "moment" is the pinnacle of my entire life. and it will always be.
it showed me this in a very profound way.
it put me in a dream world. as in, the surrounding environment in front of me became very "dreamlike". as if i were in a dream, but more real than reality. everything was wavvy and everything was in 3-dimensional "layers". and the fps of the "manifold" was like a million frames per second. as in, i could see ever individual flap of a flies wings and slow it down and shit. see every single bit of mechanical workings of every single cell in my hand when i wiggled my fingers and clenched my fist.
oh and the whole meaning of life thing that you can only understand fully in that state
but what i realized slowly after taking it was i began to have no opinion in anything. like i just don't know what to believe anymore. cuz reality can be so many different thangs all at once.
also synchronicities out of every corner, i just take it as what it is whatever. i had just gotten an old record player and was fiddling around with it, doin' a whole bunch of stuff i shouldn't be doin' like playin the record backwards and slowin it down and fuckin' up the needle n shit. and just like 3 minutes later i wuz listenin to the latest joe rogan podcast thang and he was just talking about how he was fascinated by how records work and remembers playing with a record player and fucking aroun with it by playing records backwards and fucking up the needel and shit and i wuz just like whatever, synchronicities every where man
-------------------- wut
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