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 The Chronic
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#13274306 - 10/01/10 08:18 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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I haven't ever tried DMT and lord willing i'm going to be doing so soon
Im very very interested to see what you guys who post here think about DMT, get all your different views on it
Set/setting suggestions etc...
This may suprise some of you but i don't see going into this experience as relating to Self realization/meditation in any way, i only see it as im gonna have a blast with a buddy & see what happens. I really feel that Self realization is something that is unbeatable sober & really only truly experienced sober (not as a glimpse or flash), so if im gonna trip its for the pure joy of it, the experience, im not under the impression its gonna be something thats adding benefit to my path, other than the fact i am gonna do it so it kinda is on my path anyway.
Im not against hearing about it in relation to realization/spiritual experience, im just saying where my heads at right now, going into it im not looking for any reality from the experience, just fun, wonder, awe, experience, its kinda weird going into a trip from this perspective as the whole 'trying to find reality' has gone out the window, so now its just playtime!
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I've never done it, but a great read on the subject is Tryptamine Palace by James Oroc. The book talks about his experiences with spiritual awakening and both 5-MEO-DMT and regular DMT. Be sure to let us know how it goes!
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lolwut
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Are you experienced with other psychedelics? Its essentially the same ego-loss experience just much more intense and intricate, in my experiences. Only done it a couple of times but it blew me away each time, I think if anything it shows you how much you really don't know lol. DMT: The Spirit Molecule is a good book to read as well, its about a series of studies done on DMT in the 90's (I think).
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This may suprise some of you but i don't see going into this experience as relating to Self realization/meditation in any way, i only see it as im gonna have a blast with a buddy & see what happens. I really feel that Self realization is something that is unbeatable sober & really only truly experienced sober (not as a glimpse or flash), so if im gonna trip its for the pure joy of it, the experience, im not under the impression its gonna be something thats adding benefit to my path, other than the fact i am gonna do it so it kinda is on my path anyway.
I almost guarantee you won't feel that way after you hit that shit. 
Mckenna apparently took it to buddhists and they said it took you as far as you could go and still return.
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The Chronic
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lolwut said:
Are you experienced with other psychedelics? Its essentially the same ego-loss experience just much more intense and intricate, in my experiences. Only done it a couple of times but it blew me away each time, I think if anything it shows you how much you really don't know lol. DMT: The Spirit Molecule is a good book to read as well, its about a series of studies done on DMT in the 90's (I think).
I downloaded the pdf yesterday, i will definitely finish the book before i take it 
I like that you compare it to other psychedelics as psilocybin/lysergic acid/dmt all have similar molecule structure
Im thinking it could be like tripping on shrooms or lsd but much shorter & much more intense
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This may suprise some of you but i don't see going into this experience as relating to Self realization/meditation in any way, i only see it as im gonna have a blast with a buddy & see what happens. I really feel that Self realization is something that is unbeatable sober & really only truly experienced sober (not as a glimpse or flash), so if im gonna trip its for the pure joy of it, the experience, im not under the impression its gonna be something thats adding benefit to my path, other than the fact i am gonna do it so it kinda is on my path anyway.
I almost guarantee you won't feel that way after you hit that shit.
Mckenna apparently took it to buddhists and they said it took you as far as you could go and still return.
Cool!
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WalterShabas
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Dmt is by far my favorite substance. Its so beautiful. I recommend doind it in a dimly lit room withno music. That way you can really get a feel for what the chemical does to you. It effects all senses. It'll come on with the most pleasant body buzz ever, then you'll start to hear the carrier wave. If you have a low dose with your eyes open, the visiuals will resemble those of mushrooms. I really recommend closing your eyes, you'll see and feel amazing things. For me, dmt = love
Good luck
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1nfinity said:
I downloaded the pdf yesterday, i will definitely finish the book before i take it
I like that you compare it to other psychedelics as psilocybin/lysergic acid/dmt all have similar molecule structure
Im thinking it could be like tripping on shrooms or lsd but much shorter & much more intense
Imagine your most intense LSD/Shroom trip condensed down to 5 minutes...
Have fun, it is a blast. Extremely eye opening and humbling at the same time. Go into it with an open mind or set an intention before doing so...I like to focus on Love.
As far as setting...A dark room, either sitting comfortably in a chair or laying down with a pillow under your head. I like to listen to soft music with no vocals, but others perfer silence. Just make sure there is no outside noise to distract you, such as people talking, a TV on, people rummaging around, etc...
Say hello to the spice elves for me...if you encounter them, don't worry, they are just curious and like to play around 
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Existence that multiplied itself
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The Chronic
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See this whole meeting entities thing, machine elves & insectoid aliens that rape you, im really not interested in it at all, if i could go into the trip with a goal it would be meditation/total disassociation with the body
Im gonna try to have no goal & take it for what it is, an experience
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what i think about dmt i think peyote gives entertainment and medium beauty and colors. and i think cubensis give medium fun and medium beauty and colors and medium body relaxation. So with thos to things effecting how much a person sees colors i think dmt is probly simelure to part of the effects of colors. I assume dmt gives medium colors and nothing else. Like tobaco only gives medium stimulated and coca gives perfect stimulated feelings.
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DMT is life-changing for sure. After communicating with the self-transforming machine elves you'll never be the same.
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The Chronic
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Im searching through the forums at the mo looking into it & i saw people talking about how you went crazy cause dmt showed you that the whole reptilian thang was true... dang
Im getting one of these to smoke it in, fill up the bubble with loads of vapor & go for it...
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/smoke-bubble-vaporiser-2.cfm?iProductID=2062&iProductCategoryID=521
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1nfinity said:
Im searching through the forums at the mo looking into it & i saw people talking about how you went crazy cause dmt showed you that the whole reptilian thang was true... dang
Im getting one of these to smoke it in, fill up the bubble with loads of vapor & go for it...
http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/smoke-bubble-vaporiser-2.cfm?iProductID=2062&iProductCategoryID=521
I wouldn't say I went crazy. I just had a crazy experience.
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The Chronic
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Cool, i wasn't implying you did, im interested in your experience, tell me more, through PM if you dont feel comfortable here...
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reeferaddict69
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Cool, i wasn't implying you did, im interested in your experience, tell me more, through PM if you dont feel comfortable here...
Well..it's almost beyond explanation. You feel the effects almost immediately. At that point most people are scared to take another hit. That's when you take a MASSIVE hit. That should make you breakthrough. Like Terence Mckenna says that's when you hear the cheer from the beings that await you in that space wherever that may be. Then when you're in that space it's the most bizzarely intense experience you can possibly have. You stay there for about 3 minutes. Then you come back to reality just as fast as you entered DMT land. You have to experience it for yourself to understand what happens to you cause like I said before its beyond explanation.
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The Chronic
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can't wait...
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I think psychedelics blast open your mind and sort of defrag it, clear some space on the hard disk, and also I think they have a quality of speeding up your evolution for just that reason, especially if you use every trip as an opportunity for self improvement. So in that way they do help with self realization because a) the ego is temporarily shaken up and b) more evolved ego = being in the moment more often, aka being in the self.
I wanna do some shrooms soon
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Grapefruit
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A bong will work better IMO, it's hard to get the right hit out of those things. Proper vapes also work well.
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can't wait...
when will you trip? please give a report in this thread
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lolwut
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1nfinity said:
See this whole meeting entities thing, machine elves & insectoid aliens that rape you, im really not interested in it at all, if i could go into the trip with a goal it would be meditation/total disassociation with the body
Im gonna try to have no goal & take it for what it is, an experience
Just dont be suprised or astonished if they happen  As with other psychedelics the better you can keep your awareness and not get sucked into an ego interpretation the better the trip is. But yea thats the best way to look at it imo, just take it for what it is without any previous expectations or hopes etc. But meditation/total disasociation is a given with DMT if you smoke enough (break through), unlike with other psychedelics where you can take giant doses and have a bad trip rather than ego loss if you don't know what you're doing. DMT, just smoke as much of the 50-60mg as you can and then just try and watch.
I'd also be interested in reading a trip report/your conclusions, mainly to compare to my own interpretations.
Have fun
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To control your own, you gotta burn your strings
To hit blackjack, you gotta turn a king
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 Re: DMT [Re: moi]
#13277853 - 10/01/10 10:50 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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