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Hopefully I'm wrong about that. If not, this could be the biggest catastrophe of all time.
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 Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens  [Re: Space Elf]
#13249306 - 09/26/10 03:21 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Space Elf said:
Hopefully I'm wrong about that. If not, this could be the biggest catastrophe of all time.
Wrong about what?
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: DeadHearts]
#13249324 - 09/26/10 03:24 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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When we can accept that there are things in this world that are not so easily explained, then we can really start to learn.
orgone IS accepting that they can't be explained
it's the alien-contact crowd who claims to have an explanation, not the skeptics
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: DeadHearts]
#13249329 - 09/26/10 03:25 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wrong about UFOs being extraterrestrial spacecraft. 
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: laserpig]
#13249337 - 09/26/10 03:27 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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laserpig said:
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DeadHearts said:
When we can accept that there are things in this world that are not so easily explained, then we can really start to learn.
orgone IS accepting that they can't be explained
it's the alien-contact crowd who claims to have an explanation, not the skeptics
He may except they cannot be explained but he did not say that whatsoever.
As for the latter part of youre statement I wonder why or how that could be?? 
Besides its the skeptics that usually cliam these people are bat shit crazy when in
most cases it could not be any further from the truth. What kind of explanation would
you like to call that?
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: DeadHearts]
#13249348 - 09/26/10 03:30 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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well, he never attempted to give an explanation, nor did he endorse any explanation given, so i took it as implicit that he considers the UFO phenomenon to be (presently) unexplained
as for the latter part of your post -- what?
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: laserpig]
#13249397 - 09/26/10 03:41 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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well, he never attempted to give an explanation, nor did he endorse any explanation given, so i took it as implicit that he considers the UFO phenomenon to be (presently) unexplained
as for the latter part of your post -- what?
Well I did not pick that up. Hes sounds like a typical "skeptic" to me. Smug is his
beliefs.
What do you mean what??
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: DeadHearts]
#13249408 - 09/26/10 03:44 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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i said "what" because when i said it's the contact crowd who claimed to have answers, and the skeptics who didn't, you asked "i wonder why or how that could be"
which to me seems to need no explanation, and in fact any explanation would just be a restatement of the situation already described
a skeptic is someone who questions another person's claims
the alien-contact people are the ones making claims
so i don't see what part of that situation requires eplanation
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: laserpig]
#13249446 - 09/26/10 03:52 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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laserpig said:
i said "what" because when i said it's the contact crowd who claimed to have answers, and the skeptics who didn't, you asked "i wonder why or how that could be"
which to me seems to need no explanation, and in fact any explanation would just be a restatement of the situation already described
a skeptic is someone who questions another person's claims
the alien-contact people are the ones making claims
so i don't see what part of that situation requires eplanation
Well again now days we have what appear to be credible persons Ex Astronauts and what
have you telling "us" that there is something alien flying around in space and in our
atmosphere. They are indeed giving us an explanation to an extent that is something going on and should be looked into with extream study.
"Normal" people tend to blow this stuff off as crazy talk but why?? Why should this
stuff be looked at in this way?
We all need to be skeptical. But I do not think we need skepticism on this subject
any longer and the facts that the government are withholding from us need to be brought to the table and further study and acknowledgment need to follow.
Im stoned and rambling....
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: DeadHearts]
#13249697 - 09/26/10 04:56 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Most people, when confronted with something that defies logical explanation, have their ego defense mechanism kick in. "I don't understand that, therefore it is nonsense.".
Yet another noisey non-sequitur. Congrats on ducking all four points. 
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: DeadHearts]
#13249910 - 09/26/10 05:55 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've found a few of the articles released by the National Security Agency on UFO's to be somewhat interesting. I read a lot of these at work because I have limited access to websites. The Kennedy assassination section has some interesting files too.
http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ufo/index.shtml
This entry titled "Now you see it, now you don't" is pretty interesting, it involves Iranian F-4 Pilots .
http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/ufo/now_you_see.pdf
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EVeryone seems to know your views but I don't see you have given them.
Care to clarify?
What do you think is the best explaination or do you believe they simply cannot be explained.
And I'm talking about the serious stuff not the lights in the sky stuff but advanced structured craft seen up close by a military witness like the rendelsham ufo.
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: DeadHearts]
#13250222 - 09/26/10 07:20 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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DeadHearts said:
Most people, when confronted with something that defies logical explanation
except to some it may defy explanation, for other it doesnt
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there are 923 words in the english language that do not follow the "I before E"
rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
the shit our education funding is paying for and these liberals want more money
for education to keep making students stupid
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: DeadHearts]
#13250402 - 09/26/10 08:04 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tens of thousands of people have claimed to see bigfoot, ghosts, and/or the loch ness monster.
It doesn't necessarily mean they exist and/or have happened.
Logically, other intelligent life exists. Whether or not they have contacted earth is a different story.
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Smith, P. Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.
...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: badchad]
#13250524 - 09/26/10 08:33 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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I believe there are all kinds of "lower" life forms out in space.
Who's to say there isn't an "ocean" full of cosmic "sea creatures" swimming around in that nebula over there.
I have seen 1 "UFO" in my life that was very odd and i cannot explain it.
None of that proves anything however.
The fact the the UN is getting into it shows that there is some legitimacy to theories of alien life.
I think it is a statistical certainty that at some time somewhere in the universe other life exists or existed.
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: badchad]
#13250543 - 09/26/10 08:36 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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badchad said:
Tens of thousands of people have claimed to see bigfoot, ghosts, and/or the loch ness monster.
It doesn't necessarily mean they exist and/or have happened.
Logically, other intelligent life exists. Whether or not they have contacted earth is a different story.
I dont think any ex US Astronauts have claimed to see bigfoot or the lock ness monster.
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: Shins]
#13250560 - 09/26/10 08:41 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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i just remembered, i've seen a UFO!
(by which i literally mean an unidentified flying object -- i make no claims whatsoever as to what this thing was)
a friend and i were watching a meteor shower
it wasn't a particularly good one, not a lot of activity
at one point we both noticed something unusual-looking
the hypothesis we both formed (independently) was that this was a meteor heading directly towards us
it looked like a meteor in that it had the correct orange glow and "smoky" look, except it didn't go anywhere (relative to our vantage point)
it appeared, relatively bright, stayed bright for a few seconds, and then faded, all while remaining essentially in the same place
had this been all that happened, i still would have remembered the incident, because really what are the chances that you get to see a meteor heading straight at you?
however, that's not all that happened
as it faded out, it did not disappear entirely
instead, it "turned into" a white dot, which began slowly moving to the left (or rather, to the south -- left relative to us)
this dot was identical to the appearance of a distant airplane, but the fact that we both witnessed it "appearing" out of what we thought was a meteor makes it seem unlikely that it was
i have no explanation for this, just thought i'd share the story
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: laserpig]
#13250602 - 09/26/10 08:51 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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sounds kinda crazy. I have yet to see one. But I believe the night vision videos
on youtube are pretty solid evidence that shit is up there zinging around all the
time. When I have the cash to spare im gona get the means to record that night vision
shit.
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: DeadHearts]
#13250615 - 09/26/10 08:56 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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got any particularly impressive videos to link me to?
i'm always open to see evidence i haven't seen before
... but i should warn you, i've seen a nuclear missile launch controller testify in court that his entire base witnessed a UFO moving inside their perimeter and deactivating live warheads
and i still don't "believe" that it happened (which is to say, i have no idea whether it did or didn't)
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Re: UN to appoint Earth contact for aliens [Re: laserpig]
#13250663 - 09/26/10 09:06 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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laserpig said:
got any particularly impressive videos to link me to?
i'm always open to see evidence i haven't seen before
... but i should warn you, i've seen a nuclear missile launch controller testify in court that his entire base witnessed a UFO moving inside their perimeter and deactivating live warheads
and i still don't "believe" that it happened (which is to say, i have no idea whether it did or didn't)
Nothing hardcore but there are many like this one which I cant wrap my head around.
Cant be a satellite because that fucker is just zinging around like crazy.
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